sump smashing on 99905 model
 

i have this years model and while riding at high speed i cornered. on doing this the sump smashed causing the oil to spill out over the back wheel. this caused me to nearly crash. Ducatti fixed the bike but are deniing that it is a fault. to draw attention to this dangerous problem on these models i am looking to see if anyone else has had the same problem.
the dealer fixed it as per ducatis instruction. they raised the ride hight on th back and lowered the forks which totaly upset the handling of the bike. on getting the bike back i immediately knew it wasn't right. the dealer had told me this has happened to 3 other uk owners. if any are on line or you know of someone let me know as ducati are denying there is a problem.

:saint: Welcome to the madness,don't recall anyone else bringing up this problem,but someone will probably let you know,sooner or later.
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Yes it has been on here before please read this

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xm...10635#pid87826

I rang evey dealer in the country when it happend to me, most had heard of it happening, some had more than one bike back.

Most of the dealers were in the North (hilly roads etc) I came across over 10 casses of this happening.

Contact Riverside as they now doan exchange sump plug that is flat on the bottom, cant believe there hasnt been a recall but there you go, maybe there waiting till someone is killed :puzzled:

Im sorry but how do you smash your sump on a road?

On an 04 mono the rear spring is 64 nm as stock, even I run a firmer spring - 70nmm and i'm 65 kg and can bottom the rear in a big dip. 05's get heavier springs (70nm for a mono) but may run a different leverage ratio. Like Karl I ride north Yorks, lakes bumpy stuff and need the suspension to work so its a fine balance between having it soft and not bottoming. thats been the same for every bike I've owned although none have grounded before but that might be down to them always being oversprung.

if you are heavier, ride bumpy roads and land in compresion dips and haven't put the correct spring/preload on or lifted your ride height theres a chance it'll do it, Comes down to correct geometry and suspension settings really. I doubt it'll do it cornering as fairing would grind first.

There is such an infinite number of adjustments on these bikes, that you have to set it up individually.

I would go as far as to say, anyone that owns a Ducati should have it set up for themselves straight away.

Agreed Andy but the good old owners handbook doesn't say that it might be unsafe. I always aceept that i have to swap springs out as i'm not the average weight bike makers use for suspension but to spend 10 -20 K on a bike then have to work on it to a lot of folk is crazy, they just expect that it'll work and be safe to use. Ultimate performance does require adjustments but should you need to do that to have a safe bike?? the real problem lies with the deep sump bit which does hand down a long way below belly pan.

As bikes leave factory the front is quite high as is the rear so in theory provided spring isn't bottoming out it should be ok, if you drop forks through 4 lines and set rear to 285 then i guess thats the owners fault if it does catch.

Mine bottomed out after wheelying over a crest, the roads round here are a lot more undulating than the south, were not making this $hit up Andy :(

There must be a problem becouse Ducati repaired the bikes, some were a lot worse than just replacing the plug

PS ALL the bikes are checked by Ducati techs before any repairs are undertaken

i've suffered with this!! didn't put a hole in it but ground it away nicely!
had mine replaced with a beefier one machined from billet alu! no probs since!
just keep an eye on it.
2 mates have had the same, changed to the beefier billet version and all ok now! (one did hole his, but i saw him deck the plug out and told him to stop. Which was a good job as it spilled its guts right there within about 2 minutes!:o )

Will find out the possibilty of my mate getting some machined, he may punt a few on if anyone is interested. I will get a pic of one.

I've got a 2005 Mono. I have not experienced this problem, but might have to check the bottom of the bike ! Living in the South it is reasonable that I have not experienced it, but I am off to France in September and we don't use motorways so might run into the problem, especially on the more minor roads in the SOF.

What I would question is why is it happening on the 2005 model and not the 2004 model. The engine is the same...as far as I know... shock is the same but the swing arm is different, is the ride height lower due to the swing arm?

I have a deep sump testastretta engine in my 998R and was a bit curious about this.

What bikes are the damages limited to? Only 05 model's? Earlier model's?

Year doesnt matter, Its just the deep sump R & S models

Surely this has got to be setup problems then, whether that be ride height, forks through the yokes or sag/compression, spring rate etc?

The 05 models come with a heavier spring so I would of thought this would of been less of an issue.

I only run with TD kit on and my belly pan is a sealed unit, not even a mark on that fom various track days ( Brands down at the bottom of paddock hill would be good test of compression) and various twisty undulating roads (Cat and Fiddle etc)

I think its more wheelies and air born jumps etc, These arnt just isolated instances surely a sumplug mod is all thats needed.

The thing is people make it sound like weve done something wrong, if that was the case im sure Ducati would have pointed it out rather than repair the bikes:puzzled:

A naked 999 ( Special)
http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/xm...5&pid=211 835

[Edited on 25-7-2005 by itexuk]

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thanks for the heads up, I've just checked my bike, theres cratches on the sump and fairing, not so good on a bike thats not even run in yet, guess I'll have to stiffen the front up and increase the ride hight at the rear,
cant see any other way to stop it, ps mines 2004 :flame::burn::burn:

05 999 HAS 03/04 S DEEP SUMP ENGINE
SEAMS THIS CAN GROUND OUT OVER JUMPS/UNLIKEY TO GROUND OUT ON CORNERS