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Rooney 24-Jul-2005 10:29

ROBERTS JUNIOR
 
Well went to Donnington yesterday to watch qualifiying, had a great day weather stayed nice and dry. I sat talking to my father when the main men came out for there first practice run, the thing what made me laugh was that kenny Jnr came round every lap apart from about three and looked over his shoulder and the bloke just looks bored why the hell Suzuki have kept him I don't know. When a few of us went to spain this year to watch the GP he did the same thing there, why don't they give the ride to someone who is hungry for it like Shakey I know the suzuki isn't on par with the Honda or Yamaha but I think he would be able to get more out of it than the bored looking Jnr. Does anyone else have the same opinion?

FiscusFish 24-Jul-2005 10:41

Yep, geezers a waste of space. He's lucky to have a pushbike to ride let alone a GP bike...

Darren

Gizmo 24-Jul-2005 10:42

yes, give it to James Ellison

yeti 24-Jul-2005 10:44

Hadn't realised he was still in GP's............:D

Rooney 24-Jul-2005 10:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Gizmo
yes, give it to James Ellison
Yeh mate another good British rider struggling, its funny when you watch the likes of Shakey and James they look as fast as Rossi but they were four seconds slower every lap that must **** them off.

Henners 24-Jul-2005 17:51

You might want eat a nice piece of pie Rooney
 
... of the humble variety :lol:

[Edited on 24-7-2005 by Henners]

Rob B 24-Jul-2005 18:05

Ahhhhhhhh, them's Bridgestones...............

Rob B 24-Jul-2005 18:09

And all the mad, hard charging tryers had fallen off.


Well, except the Rossi deity!!

Lee1980 24-Jul-2005 18:22

What an excellent race i was to chicken to ride up in the end to see it for real, the rain seemed to move up from the south getting worse as the day went on:o

Was Rossi on rails towards the end???:D:D:D

GsxrAge 24-Jul-2005 18:46

But just about every other week he is lucky to get in the top 10 but hoppers does a lot better! so the suzuki ain't that bad.

He does show a lack of commitment!

I am sure Paul Denning must be looking to ditch him at the end of the year.

JPM 24-Jul-2005 23:11

Maybe this will be the impetous Kenny needs now, he can race and be in front of Rossi (for a spell at least)

Henners 25-Jul-2005 01:54

Ask yourself the question
 
.. I've got a motorcycle that isn't top ten quality and tyres that aren't top 10 either (unless it rains) What do I do? Do I try and kill myself to get 11th position at the end of the race?

Call me old fashioned but .............

Mark 25-Jul-2005 07:51

.......... you make a good point.

stuart hill 25-Jul-2005 11:02

In his defence tho, he is on garbage GP bike.
I have been questioning Junior's attitude for a while now, but i think he is there for his experience and help development of the bike. He has a wealth of experience.
Would love to see a young brit get his ride though.

GsxrAge 25-Jul-2005 13:16

Quote:

Originally posted by Henners
.. I've got a motorcycle that isn't top ten quality and tyres that aren't top 10 either (unless it rains) What do I do? Do I try and kill myself to get 11th position at the end of the race?

Call me old fashioned but .............


So is he on a different bike than Hopper ?

Hoppers results are a lot better than jr's

Wylie1 25-Jul-2005 13:54

Quote:

Originally posted by Henners
.. I've got a motorcycle that isn't top ten quality and tyres that aren't top 10 either (unless it rains) What do I do? Do I try and kill myself to get 11th position at the end of the race?

Call me old fashioned but .............

He's supposed to be a RACER. It's his job to get the bike he's riding around a race track as quickly as possible. If he can't be bothered, give the bike to somebody that can. With all his experience, he should at least be beating his team-mate.

He's in a very privileged position (even on the suzuki). He should be reminded that racing bikes beats working for a living (although I'm sure he's drained enough cash out of the sport for that not to be an issue).

A good ride yesterday though, Bridgestone's or not.

Henners 25-Jul-2005 14:58

Quote:

Originally posted by Wylie 1
He's supposed to be a RACER. It's his job to get the bike he's riding around a race track as quickly as possible. If he can't be bothered, give the bike to somebody that can.


.... that'll explain why Shakey isn't on the rostrum every race - he's clearly not trying hard enough! Sack him :lol:

Wylie1 25-Jul-2005 15:50

Quote:

Originally posted by Henners
Quote:

Originally posted by Wylie 1
He's supposed to be a RACER. It's his job to get the bike he's riding around a race track as quickly as possible. If he can't be bothered, give the bike to somebody that can.


.... that'll explain why Shakey isn't on the rostrum every race - he's clearly not trying hard enough! Sack him :lol:

I fail to see the similarity between KRj & Shakey :puzzled:

KRj spends most weekends riding around to collect as much cash as possible before getting the boot/ retiring. Even fellow American Randy Mamola has criticised KRj's lack of motivation/ poor results.

Shakey on the other hand, has spent the past 1.5 years over-riding the Aprillia & now the KTM. I met him last year & believe me, there's probably nobody on the MotoGP grid that appreciates the position they're in more than he does - he was working for a living just a few years ago & there's no way he wants to do that again. I totally believe he's giving 100% all the time which is what racer's are supposed to do (even if that means 15th place on a good day).

Henners 25-Jul-2005 20:18

The point is that KR Jnr is a World Champion, he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone whereas Shakey has to bust his balls to get noticed. The way Kenny Jnr took Barros on the last lap when he had a safe podium place and no hope of the win shows he's a racer - no one would have thanked him if he'd dropped it. Hopper hasn't done much better with the Suzuki this year and Paul Denning admits it's not a top 10 finishing machine currently. He's pushing the thing as hard as anyone can expect at the moment and the Bridgestones aren't helping - ask Ducati :o

Delooney 25-Jul-2005 21:25

Kenny Jnr is fat !

Next time you see him in his garage take a look at his leathers around the chin & neck area and you will see what I mean.

Eating all the pies does add mass to the bike and therefore helps keep the thing pinned to the track in the rain.

You see, it all makes sense now doesn't it !!!


Delooney.

deej 25-Jul-2005 23:32

kenny was good yesterday but thats been it for 3 years. if hoppers lid hadnt misted up he would have beaten kenny as he was posting faster lap times than everyone but vale, he just couldnt keep it up right.

kr jr only goes well in the wet and always has done, ive watched him at le mans and donington this year and the guys body langauge just shows how un-interested he is. i understand the point about not racing for 11th but why did rossi do what he did yesterday when he had no reason too. he was and is in a class of his own. he would ahev beaten any of the honda's out there if they'd stayed upright

im glad i tarvelled up and watched it was well worth it and seeing rossi riding like that will stay with me for a long time

shakey was looking good in the wet too but does anyone know what happened to him as 1 minute he was there and the next he'd gone but nobody trackside at mcleans knew why ??

Rooney 26-Jul-2005 11:35

Sorry guys for no replys was at Cadwell all weekend so I didnt see the race, Henners you are right mate I better eat some humble pie, My father has taped the race for me so I will watch it today what a bloody shame it rained the last two years its been dry, but then again wet or dry the main man still come's out on top :lol:

Felix 26-Jul-2005 16:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Henners
.. I've got a motorcycle that isn't top ten quality and tyres that aren't top 10 either (unless it rains) What do I do? Do I try and kill myself to get 11th position at the end of the race?

Call me old fashioned but .............

Answer yes if you want to continue to race in MotoGP.
Answer no if you want to slide further down the ladder of competitive machinery.

In the end it's the results that count. That results, not result.

JPM 26-Jul-2005 16:37

I think Shakey's demise was due to brake problems, they kept locking which I guess sooner or later must of caught him out.

Good show though

deej 26-Jul-2005 23:54

it was a good show from shakey in the wet, lets hope it gets him a decent ride for next year, how about replacing roberts on the gsvr, you never know it could happen with denning in charge now


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