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Rally 26-Jul-2005 17:44

Local 9*9 for coil loan?
 
OK, as some of you will be aware, for nefarious reasons, my 999 disgraced itself by breaking down on the way up to TA4. The thinking is that the coil pack for the front cylinder has given up. If that's the case then I can simply get one and the thing's fixed... but I could do without spending the 90 odd quid to find out.

Is there a local 999/949 owner who would be prepared to let me borrow a coil off their bike to see if it fixes the problem?

JPM 26-Jul-2005 18:15

Surely this would be covered by warranty anyways... unless you've got a very early 2003 model

Rally 26-Jul-2005 18:20

It's out of warranty, sadly.

Dibble 26-Jul-2005 18:27

Rally, phone Peter Brooking at DUK, these coils are a known issue like the rockers on the older bikes, tell him you are DSC, and see what he says.

Call CK for his number.

Rally 26-Jul-2005 18:33

Thinking about it, I could swap the one from the vertical cylinder... it's just that the front one is sooo much easier to get to.

JPM 26-Jul-2005 18:37

The rear one isn't exactly hard to get to Rally, 4 bolts holding the seat unit to subframe, then you could even just lift seat and tank and remove coil (probably best have another set of hands).

At least it would prove if it was the case or not, mine failed once the motor got hot, and mine was the rear

[Edited on 26-7-2005 by JPM]

Rally 26-Jul-2005 18:59

Thinking about it even more - it wouldn't work. I tried starting it this morning and it didn't want to know. I'd definitely need a known working coil. (And it's definitely the front cylinder that isn't working btw.)

JPM, when your's failed, was it intermittent in any way? Mine would run clean for a few seconds and then lapse onto one with the amber engine light on.

Real McCoy 26-Jul-2005 19:48

Quote:

Originally posted by Rally
Thinking about it even more - it wouldn't work. I tried starting it this morning and it didn't want to know. I'd definitely need a known working coil. (And it's definitely the front cylinder that isn't working btw.)

JPM, when your's failed, was it intermittent in any way? Mine would run clean for a few seconds and then lapse onto one with the amber engine light on.

Mine did exactly the same, bite the bullet and get a coil :(

Rally 26-Jul-2005 20:34

Yeah, probably right... after, even if it isn't the coil now it seems like it will only be a matter of time before one does fail ;)

JPM 27-Jul-2005 11:07

Quote:

Originally posted by Rally
Thinking about it even more - it wouldn't work. I tried starting it this morning and it didn't want to know. I'd definitely need a known working coil. (And it's definitely the front cylinder that isn't working btw.)

JPM, when your's failed, was it intermittent in any way? Mine would run clean for a few seconds and then lapse onto one with the amber engine light on.

Intermittent in the sense that as soon as the engine was hot it died, allowed to cool and it would run OK until it reached temp, this was discovered at my first track day of the year at Oulton, as soon as I left the pit lane down to one cylinder and amber light, then back to two cylinders, no amber light, then down to one again, limped back to the pits to discover raw fuel pouring out of the termi's :o

AK 27-Jul-2005 11:15

Phone Peter Brooking, or Iain Rhodes at Ducati UK, Rally - I'm sure they will help somehow

C

Clippy 27-Jul-2005 14:34

Guys,

Are you referring to the coil-in-the-cap type thingy that means that a low tension lead runs to each cylinder? Black gizmo about 4-6" long?

If so, and you may know this already, the Ducati item is the same Denso item as fits various Kwak's and Suzuk's with the exception of the rubber boot that seals around the top end.

The key difference is that the Jap one's are £67 and £74 respectively and the Ducati one is supposed to be about £125 full RRP...just check that the first line of the Denso part number is the same - the second bit is the bike specific for the rubber grommit.

Sorry if I'm preaching to the converted, but thought this might be useful for someone - found this out when a mate's ZX9R threw a wobbler the other week and he ended up with a Suzuki one instead.
Cheers

Giles

steve bid 28-Jul-2005 16:16

coils
 
you have u2u

Rally 29-Jul-2005 00:42

Can anyone tell me when Ducati 'solved' this problem? i.e. what year bikes?

Real McCoy 29-Jul-2005 10:33

05 allegedly ;)

indigoblue73 29-Jul-2005 20:31

I had the same problem, paid for a repair the first time... It happened again and this time P&H replaced both coils and sparkplugs under warranty.


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