998 / S / BOSTROM or R ?
 

Hello first post,

I ride the Yamaha R1 (see signature) and having always wanted a v-twin sportsbike as well, I now have the cash and the space (a garage!) to buy one. I have researched prices over the year, comparing prices on the 996, 998 and the various versions each model has to offer. I have decided on the 998 (in my opinion this is Ducati's best looking bike). I love the Bostrom paint work and this is the version Iam planning on buying. How much will that extra 16bhp cost me, the 998R !!!! All the bolts on appear to be the same on bith bikes, I assume there are some internal engine part differences

Thoughts please...

I don't know too much either but if it was me I'd buy the R, paint work is an easy addition and should be overlooked, its what's inside that counts ;)

The R will be the most rare and most special of them all in my opinion, I would imagine it would hold its value the best as well should you ever go mad and decide to sell it.

the 998s and 998 r are differant engines

the bostrum and baylis reps are very good spec bikes with most of the desired goodies if not the carbon. id always prefer the R models as the reps tend to look abit dated very quickly. unless your a real bostrum / bayliss fan. the bostrum is a bit more unuusal with just 155 made, the blue frame and wheels tend to make one consider that they are quite differant.

i almost bought one :D but im glad iwent for my 996r now :D

move on ! get a 999R, some bargains with these babys

The 998s & 998R models are both very desirable, the "R" being the best of the two.

If you down the 998s route get a genuine monoposto as only 27 of them came to the uk.

As bungi said, the 998s & 998R are very different engines despite the small difference of 3 bhp, the R has a larger bore and a shorter stroke. I cant actually remember if the 998R is actually 998 or 999.

However you choose I`m sure you will enjoy the Ducati experience, by the way there are a lot of funny people in the club that will try and convince you that yellow bikes are quicker than red ones, this of course is complete and utter rubbish and as any owner of a red machione will tell you, the yellow is actually an undercoat that needs a red top coat to complete the bike. :D.................................mines a scotch & coke thank you.

The 999 is an aweful looking bike, it looks like it was designed by someone from volvo, not at all a classic, discounts by dealers and the UK saturated with units brought in from Europe, hence the 'bargain', I would'nt touch a 999 with a long pole. Clearly not an investment. I'll take a 998 thanks anyday. How much will I pay for a 998R.

[Edited on 4-8-2005 by RCA]

[Edited on 4-8-2005 by RCA]

Ooooh, that's a little bit harsh! It might not be an oil painting, but likening it to a Volvo :o

Of course, the trouble with Volvos is that they did all their designing on an "etch a sketch", and it was only when that British bloke joined that he showed them how to do curves by twisting both knobs at once!

Yeah,them new fangled Dukes will never take on,will they...;):D:D:D

Spoken by a man with an R1........... :lol::lol:

:puzzled::puzzled::puzzled: The 998R has 150hp???

998S has 136 out of the box I think the R has about 2 more



Frame, wheels, grips, seat pad, headlight bucket all different and there wasn't just 155 made, 155 for the US market, less power to meet emissions but carbon bodywork and signed tank, Euro spec "S" Engine but plastic bodywork. Bostrom rep isn't a race rep also due to tobacco advertising (L&M) it's a rep of his lid.

Also the Bayliss/Bostrom reps have Ohlins forks over the standard S model

Haven't seen too many 998R's around, those that I have seen were about £12,000 - £12,500. There seem to be a few more 996R's about... I paid £10,500 for mine (6,000 miles, FSH 1 Year Factory warranty plus belt service). There has been one privately advertised in the Kent area for about £8,500...I reckon that's probably the starting point...I think it might still be in MCN...worth a look. If its half decent, that's a good price.

The one in MCN in Kent went last week.

Well said!!

I agree totally!!

By the way,i own a 998 Bayliss & love it to death!!

Get with the times! The xx9 series rules :D

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Instead of the tradition of the newbie buying the drinks, name your drink mate and i'll line them up. A Yorkshireman with taste.

Power wise the standard 998 is 123bhp

The 998S (same engine in the Bostrum & Bayliss reps, main differences on the reps are the Ohlins forks and paintwork, over the 998S) knocks out 136 bhp.

The 996R (also has a 998 engine) knocks out 135bhp

The 998R has a shorter stroke 999cc engine and produces 139bhp.

easy way to recognise the 996R 998S/R motor over the standard 998 engine is sandcast crankcases and deep sump motor, just in case a seller tells a few porkies.

998R!!!

Everyday!!!

I was riding mine last night after leaving Brands heading down into Kent. What a machine, so much better in all departments than my 996, which is still a great bike that I have no complaints with but the 998R is sublime.

The 998R is actually 999cc. It is the same bore and stroke as the current 999R engine. Sandcast crankcases and deep sump as BDG mentions above.

You can't go wrong with one of these.

Oh yeah, price-wise depends on condition but you'll be looking at 10,500 through to 13,000 but it's a buyers market at the moment.

You sure you don't want a 996? ;)

[Edited on 5-8-2005 by TP]

A 998R - nah - they made too many!!!! You want the 996R. ;)

Ducati tried to cash in on the popularity of the hand-built, limited edition 996R, by producing a not-so limited run of 998Rs. :lol:

They just used the 998R to test some of the components of the new 999 engines before they squeezed them into the 999 ;)

Go for the 996R - you and she will be much more appreciative.

Tim:frog:

This is just because I was quicker on Tuesday isn't it!

no, its because he's right ..... :devil:

I cant say out ive got a 748 but if i did sell it it would be for a 998r. or id just buy the lump if i could and fit it

I don't recall Krispy Kreme ever making an 'R' so why are you interested?

:frog:

And they only made 200 more than the 996R. I think they were just so proud that they had managed to build an even better bike than the glorious 996R that they had to show off!

The ultimate bike in the ultimate shape ;)

:smug:

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn !

I seem to remember that you did come past me on Tuesday, but you also went past the edge of the track and into the dirt at the same time. ;) You then feinged some "kill-switch" incident when you struggled to keep up!!! :)

[Edited on 5-8-2005 by Rattler]

Ahh yes, Redgate ...

What about the other sessions ;)

200 more !!! that's about 40% by my reckoning - really exclusive ;)

You passed me once properly, then misjudged the track to pass me then, then I went past you. He who laughs last!!!! (thinks slowest!!) ;)

Gentlemen,

I'm sure we all agree they're both great bikes (and far nicer than any of those Legoland type R's):devil::lol:

easy tiger, thats your future instructor you are disrespecting ... !! almost a shame the ESS has gone now .. :lol:

Those that can - do !!! Those that can't - teach !!!! ;)

;):D

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-ow

:lol::lol:

Keith, shouldn't your signiture read,

the almost real, but not quite as good looking Ducati;)

996R or 998R, 996R..... World Championship winner. 998R came second. 996R is the daddy of the testa engine bikes, the 998R is the pretender, let alone these 999R's which are worth less than 996R's!

I'd have the 996R anyday over the 998R.

Considering no road version has won any world championships, just to "homologate" them in the broadest terms possible, and they're nothing like a road bike, but I think you'll find the 999 has already won 2 world titles - Hodgson 2003, Toseland 2004

Agreed, but just because michelle mcmanus won pop idol, does not mean I would sleep with her, like the 999, she is a dog.

Says the man with an R1 :lol:

They're like ar*eholes..... everyone's got one! :P

:lol: nice one Jon

RCA - better get out of bed the other side tomorrow mate ;)

Indeed Freak, but their sooooooooo damn ugly mate, sorry. 996R would be my choice if in the R market place.

ooooooooooh no they're not

Flanks I have to agree, but if you're in the market for a "new" bike you haven't got an option. Done the whole 996/998 thing so there wasn't an option