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Spjallen 10-May-2013 12:10

Instruction
 
I’m looking for some on track instruction, anyone recommend any instructors? Ideally Id be able to get some at Anglesey at the next meet. Asked Spike Edwards but he’s quite pricey.

Jonzi 10-May-2013 13:12

I had a look in to this a while ago, and I think it will cost about the same with all instructors.

CSS works out cheaper, but from asking the same question on trackdayriders forum every one pretty much said go with some one like Spike Edwards

skidlids 10-May-2013 15:09

As Anglesey is billed as a trackday on the friday, there could well be a couple of instructors about, maybe worth contacting Dave Mabbutt and seeing if he can suggest someone

Spjallen 10-May-2013 17:30

Thanks Skids - I'll do just that.

dunlop0_1 10-May-2013 19:24

Me. ;)

Ghost 10-May-2013 19:29

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Originally Posted by dunlop0_1
Me. ;)


You just Feck off into the distance. :D

dunlop0_1 10-May-2013 19:30

Seriously. Although being an old tart I am always more than willing to help out on any TD before racing. Won't be at Angelsey as TSGB is at Cadwell but will be back there in July with you lot. :)

dunlop0_1 10-May-2013 19:31

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Originally Posted by Ghost
You just Feck off into the distance. :D


Love you.
XXX

chris.p 10-May-2013 19:40

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Originally Posted by Ghost
You just Feck off into the distance. :D



He would go even faster into the distance if he bought my lightweight mag alloy wheels :D

Chris:burn:

Gbyte666 10-May-2013 23:01

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Originally Posted by chris.p
He would go even faster into the distance if he bought my lightweight mag alloy wheels :D

Chris:burn:


Yes no doubt from the wallet weight saving :)

bally71 10-May-2013 23:24

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Originally Posted by Spjallen
I’m looking for some on track instruction, anyone recommend any instructors? Ideally Id be able to get some at Anglesey at the next meet. Asked Spike Edwards but he’s quite pricey.


i was foolish enough to part with my hard earned and do css

biggest waste of time and money ever .. i could depart what i learned in 5 mins flat

spend your money on track time every time .. And if you can find someone a little faster than you .. follow em

i'll gladly tail you on a track day and help move you on a bit .. not at anglesey tho .. stupid girlfiends best mate decided to book her wedding on the sat grrrr

dunlop0_1 11-May-2013 05:42

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Originally Posted by Gbyte666
Yes no doubt from the wallet weight saving :)



:lol: :lol: :lol: sorry Chris.

bradders 11-May-2013 09:49

Being fast doesnt mean being able to instruct. Depends how serious you are. A lot can be done with self research and notes, use of video, and practising those skills all the time on any ride not just track.

Even if you can get someones, on same bike, markers like brake, turn etc etc it shows what can be done as a gauge to where yours are now, then it becomes 'if they can, I can!' Mentality. Can be risky tho....riding styles make huge differences. Neil carries more corner speed than most so uless you adapt to carrying the same, you'll need to work out the differences...

dunlop0_1 11-May-2013 10:39

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Originally Posted by bradders
Being fast doesnt mean being able to instruct. Depends how serious you are. A lot can be done with self research and notes, use of video, and practising those skills all the time on any ride not just track.

Even if you can get someones, on same bike, markers like brake, turn etc etc it shows what can be done as a gauge to where yours are now, then it becomes 'if they can, I can!' Mentality. Can be risky tho....riding styles make huge differences. Neil carries more corner speed than most so uless you adapt to carrying the same, you'll need to work out the differences...


Fair point. To be honest what ever you are told and by whoever it will only make a difference if as you say you adapt it to your own style. Video's I don't rate really unless it's been taken of yourself and someone like Mike Edwards is pointing out where you can improve. Clay Hill for example at Oulton on video looks like a lovely rise and left kink. In the real world the front goes light and or wheelie's and the bike wants to go straight on which makes you roll the throttle or even worse enter the turn to slowly.
Tips on gearing and prefered gear changing places at particular circuits will always be of value. Also as you say one persons level of commitment into say turn one at Cadwell is different to anothers. However if helping someone achieve maybe what I consider to be the right entry gear and speed on a DD bike at this corner they may go half a second faster? If so then this can boost your confidence greatly which is probably the best thing to make you go faster anyway.

It's not that I'm fast, it's just that your crap. ;)

bradders 11-May-2013 15:05

Agree. And if more people shared info in the paddock would help ;) but then who wants to give all competitive edge away...

Re vid, if you record yourself you can get away from false-positiveness. Ie if someone says are you flat onto T1 Cadwell, in your head yes easy, the vid will show/hear any roll off and where. Got to know where you are starting from before where you are going :)

dunlop0_1 11-May-2013 15:08

Got to know where you are starting from before where you are going :)[/quote]

Never gonna happen with me Paul. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Spjallen 11-May-2013 18:43

I'm sure it will help Bradders. If I can get a few seconds quicker here and a few more there in a progressive and consistent manner by knowing what to do, and what not to do, it'll help.

bradders 11-May-2013 23:45

Good luck :) you know what to do, its when to do it. If Neil can share his notes/knowledge that will help a lot...

Andy C 12-May-2013 19:52

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Originally Posted by dunlop0_1
Seriously. Although being an old tart I am always more than willing to help out on any TD before racing. Won't be at Angelsey as TSGB is at Cadwell but will be back there in July with you lot. :)


See you there pieman! We're gonna be racing together again, well hopefully!!!

dunlop0_1 12-May-2013 20:00

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Originally Posted by Andy C
See you there pieman! We're gonna be racing together again, well hopefully!!!


Excellent. :)

Cranker V2 13-May-2013 08:16

Here ya go Simon http://inoveryourhead.net/the-simple...ome-ing-balls/

Spjallen 13-May-2013 08:47

Yes very constructive Mike!!

ells 13-May-2013 12:24

I do like videos. There are a lot of bad pOints but if they show you good reference points that you can see and try when you get there then that's got to be good. So if you are going to oulton and watch a good video you will see there are three or four markers that you may or may not use as reference points for action. One of the downsides is the guy in the video is not you, is not riding your bike etc......

Instruction can be good. It will not fix everything in one go. I have used an instructor at Oulton before. What I got from him was some improved lines, also experienced having to move braking markers, and a whole load of usefull bits and pieces. Could I have learnt as much from an experienced DD rider? Yes. Not sure I would have learnt it from just track time.

Sometimes you just get stuck ina rut and a good nudge will help.

Mark.

vespa 14-May-2013 17:10

I found dvd at http://www.v2pro.info/eshop.htm very helpful for reference points. A


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