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skidlids 16-May-2013 21:04

Maybe time for a change
 
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I have been riding the same Supersport based DD bike since the start of the series in 2005, over that time it has developed from a basic 583 to a slightly more developed 620.
Back in 2004 when I purchased the SS I had never owned a Monster. in the 9 years since then I have owned several Monster and ride the road ones I currently own more than any of my other bikes.
At the end of 2011 I bought a incomplete but running 620 Monster off Steve Mason with the intention of turning it into a DD bike for myself.

Well at last the work has started with help from Dallas.
Below is a pic of the start of what will be project 1

Project 2 will be similar as in it will be another race bike, likely to be a 620 although it could just as easily be a 800

and Project 3 will be a road going Version with 1100 EVO engine, Ohlins forks, lightweight tank etc etc

banger san 16-May-2013 21:47

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Originally Posted by skidlids

Well at last the work has started with help from Dallas.
Below is a pic of the start of what will be project 1


Ready for Anglesey? :lol:

skidlids 16-May-2013 21:54

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Ready for Anglesey? :lol:


Could be just got to nip over to Benson in a few hours time when everyone's a sleep and grab an exhaust and a few other bits :p

bally71 17-May-2013 07:09

For a minute then i thought you where going to suggest a move to 696's .. phew

build thread ... build thread ... build thread *chants*

Spjallen 17-May-2013 11:06

Looking good. Enjoy the project and paint it blue!

skidlids 21-Jun-2013 21:37

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Slowly Progressing, be nice to get out on it before the end of the year, quite fancy taking it to the Pembrey test day

bally71 21-Jun-2013 23:24

Looking sweet Kev

Love the look of that tail unit and the 916 tank

bally71 21-Jun-2013 23:27

you gonna go for a full fairing or keep it naked?

skidlids 22-Jun-2013 10:23

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you gonna go for a full fairing or keep it naked?


916 Nose cone on this one and the 1100 road/trackday version will have a 900SSie half fairing

Since taking the pic the bike has now grown a set of calipers, throttle, grips and a start switch

Mastercylinder and front hoses next

bally71 23-Jun-2013 10:57

Have you ever heard of these guys

www.radicalducati.com

some nice inspirations on there

bradders 23-Jun-2013 12:10

Having ridden Phils with the 916 tank I'm a convert: easy to get round than an SS but still tuck right in and use your knees on the tank (which is tough on a monster)

I love the idea of a 1100s engined, ohlins shod road bike built with 916 tank, clip ons and desmo bodywork.

Campo 23-Jun-2013 13:02

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Originally Posted by bally71
Have you ever heard of these guys

www.radicalducati.com

some nice inspirations on there

I watched a couple of their vids on you tube a while back. They do do some real nice bikes.

skidlids 23-Jun-2013 17:42

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916 Nose cone on this one

Since taking the pic the bike has now grown a set of calipers, throttle, grips and a start switch

Mastercylinder and front hoses next


Bit more Progress

vespa 23-Jun-2013 23:37

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I will try this on Wed at Castle Combe.
It is a convertible SuperTwin/Streetfighter
based on a 900ssie donor with 804 engine.:roll:

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skidlids 24-Jun-2013 23:10

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Originally Posted by vespa
I will try this on Wed at Castle Combe.
It is a convertible SuperTwin/Streetfighter
based on a 900ssie donor with 804 engine.:roll:

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Castle Combe will explain the standard exhaust, only chance of getting it through noise testing.

Got to decide what to do with the forks in mine

I have hopefully sorted out the Cartridge fork conversion Dallas tried twice last year with dismal results, now that the internals are in the correct externals they should work.

But also building up a set using 996 internals in 750SSie Dark Outers with 1000SS fork caps

Trouble is both sets are a good 40mm longer than the adjustable Monster S4 forks currently in it, so I may have to have a lot protruding above the top yoke and run 54mm clipons

bally71 25-Jun-2013 07:24

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Originally Posted by vespa
I will try this on Wed at Castle Combe.
It is a convertible SuperTwin/Streetfighter
based on a 900ssie donor with 804 engine.:roll:

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I've got a nice pair of high level pipes for that if you where interested

vespa 25-Jun-2013 07:34

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Originally Posted by bally71
I've got a nice pair of high level pipes for that if you where interested

PMS
thanks

bally71 25-Jun-2013 11:20

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Castle Combe will explain the standard exhaust, only chance of getting it through noise testing.

Got to decide what to do with the forks in mine

I have hopefully sorted out the Cartridge fork conversion Dallas tried twice last year with dismal results, now that the internals are in the correct externals they should work.

But also building up a set using 996 internals in 750SSie Dark Outers with 1000SS fork caps

Trouble is both sets are a good 40mm longer than the adjustable Monster S4 forks currently in it, so I may have to have a lot protruding above the top yoke and run 54mm clipons


what's the advantage with the 996 internals?

And wouldn't they be better off in 996 forks? :lol:

skidlids 25-Jun-2013 17:22

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Originally Posted by bally71
what's the advantage with the 996 internals?


They are intended for a Sports bike unlike the internals in ST and Monster S4 forks

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Originally Posted by bally71
And wouldn't they be better off in 996 forks? :lol:


Not when you see the state of the outside of the 996 forks, the braided hoses had rubbed through the anodising and then the corrosion set in, talk about scabby, those parts will be heading for the skip. Mind you it did make them very cheap.
Besides my 996 has already had its forks upgraded, re-anodised, Ti coated and billet lowers with 40mm mount for the 6-pot Calipers

skidlids 25-Jun-2013 17:35

I'm not the first to do it by a long way, Chaz has been doing the fork conversion for a few years now and Tom Roberts and Simon Allen have had theirs done,
But when searching for more info on it I came across this
http://www.ducatisuite.com/monstersbkforks.html

And there are few mentions of it in the DSC archives

bally71 25-Jun-2013 23:16

Suspension scares me .. the thought of taking forks apart makes me positively poo my pants :lol:

skidlids 25-Jun-2013 23:46

I first started pulling forks apart in 1980 to convert my 400/4 to a twin disc front end with better calipers, so i used the lowers from an XS250

one bike I wish i still had

skidlids 01-Jul-2013 16:30

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But also building up a set using 996 internals in 750SSie Dark Outers with 1000SS fork caps


Be nice if someone hadn't already botched the 996 internals

bally71 02-Jul-2013 01:57

The cap looks ok .... might make a nice paperweight

skidlids 04-Jul-2013 00:04

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Originally Posted by bally71
The cap looks ok .... might make a nice paperweight


Caps no good for a DD bike as its to big

Forks are now all assembled, just need to add oil, set the appropriate air gap and see how the after market seals hold out

skidlids 22-Jul-2013 00:08

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Not a lot of Progress of late

Just modified the 748 tank, fitted the pump and plumbed in the fuel connections.
Also did a bit of prep ready for the lock wiring

Hopefully tomorrow Dallas will weld on a couple more brackets for me so I can make a battery mount and then I can crack on with the electrics

Photos may be of use to Roxy

PHIL-THE-DRILL 22-Jul-2013 22:21

Looks good Kev how about streetfighe r style like mine ?

mark 999 24-Jul-2013 10:46

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Not a lot of Progress of late

Just modified the 748 tank, fitted the pump and plumbed in the fuel connections.
Also did a bit of prep ready for the lock wiring

Hopefully tomorrow Dallas will weld on a couple more brackets for me so I can make a battery mount and then I can crack on with the electrics

Photos may be of use to Roxy


They are indeed of use !

I've just about got all the bits ready for the project, although I've no idea where the battery is going to go ! :lol:

skidlids 24-Jul-2013 20:25

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although I've no idea where the battery is going to go ! :lol:


Here's a clue

Spjallen 24-Jul-2013 21:55

Yes Chaz did my forks and I've had no real issues with them ( sensible money for the work too) it gave me the adjustabilty I was after. Serviced them this year and changed to a slighly heavier fork oil which I prefer - 5w to 7.5w. A job worth doing.

mark 999 25-Jul-2013 16:09

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Originally Posted by skidlids
Here's a clue


Oooh, that solves a bit of head scratching !

Get ready for more questions at Pembrey !:(

skidlids 27-Jul-2013 18:23

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Started on the wiring today but had to order a few bits from Simtek so now I have to wait for them to arrive before I can wire in the Injectors, fuel pump etc.
Did think about wiring a Power Commander in directly but may go with a Rapid Bike3 unit

skidlids 29-Jul-2013 11:59

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Still waiting for connectors and wire to arrive but in the mean time I thought I would cut down on some of the wiring, This ECU connector just about has all I need for the the bike to run

bally71 29-Jul-2013 14:38

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Still waiting for connectors and wire to arrive but in the mean time I thought I would cut down on some of the wiring, This ECU connector just about has all I need for the the bike to run


SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!

skidlids 29-Jul-2013 15:25

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Originally Posted by bally71
SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!


The other ECU connector is a different story, needing at least 15 wires coming out of it

bally71 29-Jul-2013 20:48

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Originally Posted by skidlids
The other ECU connector is a different story, needing at least 15 wires coming out of it


:lol:

skidlids 30-Jul-2013 21:44

Connectors arrived from Simtek today, enough for the first two harnesses which will sort out mine and Dallas's DD bikes, then there will be the more complicated one for the road legal version with the 1100 EVO engine. This may have to have a few more wires.

Thankfully I have just finished trimming down the Harness for Dave Marston's dads 620 Monster, the ex Trouty bike

Be nice when the DD project is running and ready for the track as I have 5 shocks to test, 2 X Penske, 1 X Nitron and 2 X Ohlins, of which 4 are modified from other bikes.

In reality its all a bit of a playground with my toys strewn all over the place, but good fun

skidlids 30-Jul-2013 22:09

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Meanwhile a couple of miles away, someone else is busy building their DD bike

Spjallen 31-Jul-2013 18:23

Great news!

skidlids 31-Jul-2013 20:37

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Wiring - seems to take forever then you have little to show for it.

Still at least it stayed dry for a couple of hours


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