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Carbon749 25-Sep-2005 22:08

7 times a world champion and only 26 years old - is Rossi the best ever
 
World Championship Wins 7
1997 125cc
1999 250cc
2001 500cc
2002 MotoGP
2003 MotoGP
2004 MotoGP
2005 MotoGP

I know this may have been done bofore, but, now that 2005 has been sorted (as if it was in any doubt)

Just wondered what the views are now

[Edited on 25-9-2005 by Carbon749]

[Edited on 25-9-2005 by Carbon749]

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 22:13

Best ever but not the best today haha :cool:

guest1 25-Sep-2005 22:19

Be interesting to see the BBC votes coming in.
For nostalgia and irony (killed in a Rover and not on a bike) I think Mike the Bike.
For keeping going and winning with less appendages than others - Doohan
Rossi is good - but is he THAT good?

dickieducati 25-Sep-2005 22:24

Quote:

Originally posted by guest1
Be interesting to see the BBC votes coming in.
For nostalgia and irony (killed in a Rover and not on a bike) I think Mike the Bike.
For keeping going and winning with less appendages than others - Doohan
Rossi is good - but is he THAT good?

yep.

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 22:29

Quote:

Originally posted by guest1
Be interesting to see the BBC votes coming in.
For nostalgia and irony (killed in a Rover and not on a bike) I think Mike the Bike.
For keeping going and winning with less appendages than others - Doohan
Rossi is good - but is he THAT good?


I stood in the heaviest rain and wind at Donington for the Moto GP this year.
I think I saw something a bit special that day
:cool:

domski 25-Sep-2005 22:39

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Originally posted by ericthered40
I stood in the heaviest rain and wind at Donington for the Moto GP this year.
I think I saw something a bit special that day
:cool:

...but I wasn't there!! :lol:

domski 25-Sep-2005 22:41

Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
1997 125cc
1999 250cc
2001 500cc
2002 MotoGP
2003 MotoGP
2004 MotoGP
2005 MotoGP


...and 1998 & 2000 he was runner up. (almost won the 500 title in 2000 too)

Rossi has won 51 of 93 races since he moved up from 250cc in 2000.

I think it was mentioned at the end of todays race that Rossi has had 113 podiums out of 153 starts - That's incredible!!



:lol:

[Edited on 25-9-2005 by domski]

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 23:15

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Originally posted by domski
Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
1997 125cc
1999 250cc
2001 500cc
2002 MotoGP
2003 MotoGP
2004 MotoGP
2005 MotoGP


...and 1998 & 2000 he was runner up. (almost won the 500 title in 2000 too)

Rossi has won 51 of 93 races since he moved up from 250cc in 2000.

I think it was mentioned at the end of todays race that Rossi has had 113 podiums out of 153 starts - That's incredible!!



:lol:

[Edited on 25-9-2005 by domski]




Glad to see you made it that day Number 04 :lol:

GsxrAge 25-Sep-2005 23:21

I voted yes but how can you compair Doohan,Rainey,Gardner,Hailwood,etc the were all of a different age. Not to mention the types of bikes etc. They were all bloody great in their own time.


Rossi is a modern day riding God he makes fun of the sport without him It might be like F1 :o

Lets hope he does not retire from Motogp next year as it won't be the same without him.

domski 25-Sep-2005 23:34

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Originally posted by AGE996
I voted yes, but how can you compare Doohan, Rainey, Gardner and Hailwood etc. They were all of a different age.

What age do you have to be then? :lol:

Oh, I'm on fire tonight :sing:

rockhopper 25-Sep-2005 23:35

I think he's got a long way to go to beat Agostini.

Spen 25-Sep-2005 23:38

Especially if you count how many girlfriends they've had.........:rolleye:

domski 25-Sep-2005 23:39

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Originally posted by Spen
Especially if you count how many girlfriends they've had.........:rolleye:

I think Rossi is crap on that front :o :lol:

SSSSsssshhhhh ;)

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 23:40

Gardner was on fire at the goodwood revival bike race still took Whit :o

GsxrAge 25-Sep-2005 23:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Spen
Especially if you count how many girlfriends they've had.........:rolleye:

Pmsl what are you trying to say :puzzled::puzzled::lol::burn:

domski 25-Sep-2005 23:41

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Originally posted by ericthered40
Gardner was on fire at the goodwood revival bike race still took Whit :o

Gardner was actually on fire? or he was on fire? :lol:

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 23:44

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Originally posted by domski
Quote:

Originally posted by ericthered40
Gardner was on fire at the goodwood revival bike race still took Whit :o

Gardner was actually on fire? or he was on fire? :lol:


not on fire in the Ali sense just still every bit a champion :D

domski 25-Sep-2005 23:47

Quote:

Originally posted by ericthered40
Quote:

Originally posted by domski
Quote:

Originally posted by ericthered40
Gardner was on fire at the goodwood revival bike race still took Whit :o

Gardner was actually on fire? or he was on fire? :lol:


not on fire in the Ali sense just still every bit a champion :D

Ahh, so he was just on fire then ;)

ericthered40 25-Sep-2005 23:51

Well he was smoking anyway :P

rcgbob44 26-Sep-2005 00:50

Just on numbers it has to be Ago, at the present time its Rossi but unfortunatly you can`t compare all the past greats as they were the best in their times, not Rossi`s.

As for my Fav`s there Ago, Hailwood, Doohan & Sheen.

Mad Dog Bianchi 26-Sep-2005 08:02

Paul is right. How can you forget someone who ran in multiple classes and still won. My vote goes to Ago, a real superman (though Rossi is a genius on two wheels).

Mad Dog Bianchi 26-Sep-2005 08:12

Paul is right. How can you forget someone who ran in multiple classes and still won. My vote goes to Ago, a real superman (though Rossi is a genius on two wheels).

Career summary

Year Team 350cc 500cc World titles TT wins
1963 Moto-Morini - - - -
1964 Moto-Morini - - - -
1965 MV 3 wins 1 win - -
1966 MV 3 wins 3 wins 500 cc 350 cc
1967 MV 1 win 5 wins 500 cc 350 & 500 cc
1968 MV 7 wins 10 wins 350 & 500 cc 350 & 500 cc
1969 MV 8 wins 10 wins 350 & 500 cc 350 & 500 cc
1970 MV 9 wins 10 wins 350 & 500 cc 350 & 500 cc
1971 MV 6 wins 8 wins 350 & 500 cc 500 cc
1972 MV 6 wins 11 wins 350 & 500 cc 350 & 500 cc
1973 MV 4 wins 3 wins 350 cc -
1974 Yamaha 5 wins 2 wins 350 cc -
1975 Yamaha 1 win 4 wins 500 cc -
1976 MV 1 win 1 win - -
1977 Suzuki - - - -
Totals 54 wins 68 wins 15 Championships 12 TT wins

ScottyB 26-Sep-2005 09:26

I voted yes but would have loved to have seen him under pressure more this year.

Why was he not under pressure? When it mattered most either he or the crew were spot on, and excellent team around him.

He must be admired for the way he is able to set the bike up and communicate the feedback from his testing and qualifying sessions to his crew.

There is nobody at present who could lace his boots when it comes to that skill alone, and that skill has come from him working his way through the classes and learning by his mistakes and fine tuning things as he goes.

I feel he has got out of racing what he has put into it.

Regards

ScottyB

Twinfan 26-Sep-2005 10:32

He was under big pressure yesterday, and pulled it out of the bag.

The guy is awesome.

Jools 26-Sep-2005 10:35

There is no doubt he is the best rider today by a very long way. The trouble is with all these polls is that you never get to compare like with like. Different era's, different machinery, different degrees of professionalism, so it's impossible to say who is the best of all time.

The only problem that I have with anybody who is totally dominant in their chosen field is that it makes the sport, overall, less exciting. the same goes for any sport. There are individuals or teams who totally dominate for a particular spell of time and make the outcome a bit too predictable to be entertaining.

I mean, we can all remember sporting events when all you were really doing was turning up to see Australia win at cricket, England win the 6 nations, Manchester United win the premiership, Tiger Woods win the open, Federer win Wimbledon, Schumacher lead the F1 procession home, Rossi win another MotoGP. Fine if you are a rabid fan of any of the teams or individuals but not if you want close, nail biting competition.

And isn't it good when the tide turns and somebody starts to beat the favourites? Would the whole nation have gone crazy unless we were in with a good shout of beating the Aussies? Isn't it refreshing to see Arsenal and Chelsea putting the boot in? Isn't even F1 a little less predictable now that the Scumacher/Ferrari stranglehold has been broken?

My preference is for a scenario like WSB in 2004 where any one of four people could've won right down to the wire.

ziggi 26-Sep-2005 11:04

Rossi is awesome. I'd put Wayne Rainey close to the top of my list but Rossi is my ultimate all time greatest motorcycle racer.

Can you think of anyone coming through the ranks that could do as well as Rossi?

Twinfan 26-Sep-2005 11:15

Pedrosa maybe, but I can't think of anyone else.

gary888 26-Sep-2005 12:40

Whilst Rossi stays in Motogp no-one will get near him. IMHO his mental strength ensures the others are in second place before they get to the circuit and that's where he has the edge, but to do what he has done with the M1 in 2 seasons...And he didn't get released from the contract with Honda until Jan 04 as I remember.
Much as I hate F1, I'd like to see him repeat Surtees feat. I'm sure he'd upset a few prima donnas in the process!

guest1 26-Sep-2005 14:54

How come there's only 1 vote for "I don't think Rossi is a god"? (yes, it was me)


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