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Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 17:40

Most influential......
 
I'm bored. In fact, I'm border than a bored man with lots of bords selling bords to people from bordsville. So I thought I would try my first Poll.

I'm a big Dylan fan and watched the 1st Arena doc on him last night (second part tonight). So I was wondering who Ducatisti thought was the most influential Music artist of our times.

Obviously I'm for Dylan. Even Lennon said he changed the way he thought popular music should go. NME also recently voted "Like a rolling stone" the most influential song EVER wrote.

For those of you who are undecided watch the final part on BBC2 at 9

JPM 27-Sep-2005 17:45

Kylie? :lol:

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 17:54

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Originally posted by JPM
Kylie? :lol:

No wonder the country is going to the dogs since I left

COL595 27-Sep-2005 19:11

Charlotte Church.

Her latest video has an influential affect on me everytime I see it - I'm even thinking of turning the sound up one day.

khu996 27-Sep-2005 19:57

The Cheeky Girls :frog:

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 20:00

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Originally posted by JPM
Kylie? :lol:

Not so far off the mark Jon, Stock Aitkin and Waterman had a lot of influence on current pop music, pete waterman / the hit factory has had hits for 3 decades and probably more top tens than many of the so called major artists.

My vote goes to John Peel, he's influenced more music fans than any artist.

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 20:07

Hold on a mow:puzzled: Shouldn't khu996 from Wales want Charlotte and COL595 from Essex The cheeky Girls:puzzled:

I agree with John Peel but we're talking about the artists that he promoted. Artist's that inspired us, changed our lives, our way of thinking not promotion gimmick's that remind us of the last sh*g we had against the wall.:smug:

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 20:34

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Originally posted by Crunchy

I agree with John Peel but we're talking about the artists that he promoted. Artist's that inspired us, changed our lives,

so a DJ ain't an artist??? big can of worms opening for me on that one, :) my major influences after Peel ( and in last 2 decades) are Martin Hannett, Paul Oakenfold, William Orbit, Deep Dish, thievery corporation all for their production talents and keeping me interested in music even after almost 40 years. prior to that the pistols, ramones and clash for encouraging kids to pick up guitars and play them, me included, before that as in my previous posts, velvets and new york dolls. i can honestly say the beatles, john lennon and bob dylan had little impact on me bowie yeah, young americans opened my ears to more souly stuff which prior to that i wouldn't have listened to and Low/heroes was the beginning of a spell of me searching for good german stuff like neu or la dusseldorf.

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[Edited on 27-9-2005 by Gizmo]

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 20:46

yeah but who influenced them. This is what I on about. Before Dylan most of the popular songs were about "love, love me do". It was Dylan that gave you something to think about. I mean even I wont admit to him having a operatic voice.

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:06

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Originally posted by Crunchy
yeah but who influenced them. This is what I on about. Before Dylan most of the popular songs were about "love, love me do". It was Dylan that gave you something to think about. I mean even I wont admit to him having a operatic voice.

well if its a history of rock and roll you are after :) theres lots before Dylan and the Beatles and lots more relevant to my current tastes and I doubt that any of the current stuff i listen to is influenced by Dylan or the Beatles. just played the Thievery Corp interview from their 1 world set, their inlfuences are jamaican, hindu, brazilian, funk, david byrne ( whom i missed from my influences, doh) no mention of any 60's music as they are too young for it.

Because of the distribution of music it was only the "major" artists that got heard in the 50's and 60's. Shows like John Peels brought unknown artists an audience on a major radio station, it opened the door to lots of new stuff and thats what i consider influential. Punk brought new small record labels, small production runs and once again altered distribution, you didnt need a major label to plug your music, loads of new record shops opened so it was easy to get the music as well. Dance did the same in the late 80's/90's and now the internet makes anything accesible, the artist is a small ( but important)) part of what we listen to or influenced us.

electricsheep 27-Sep-2005 21:12

tatu :lol::lol:

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:16

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Originally posted by electricsheep
tatu :lol::lol:

fook me, even i can't find a serious side to that :) :)

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 21:18

Who the FOOK is Tatu:alien:

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:20

ok, gizmo tunes is back on line

http://therapy.dyndns.org:8000/playlist.pls

enjoy

ps you might need to paste that into itunes streams or similar

[Edited on 27-9-2005 by Gizmo]

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 21:22

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Originally posted by Gizmo
Quote:

Originally posted by Crunchy
yeah but who influenced them. This is what I on about. Before Dylan most of the popular songs were about "love, love me do". It was Dylan that gave you something to think about. I mean even I wont admit to him having a operatic voice.

well if its a history of rock and roll you are after :) theres lots before Dylan and the Beatles and lots more relevant to my current tastes and I doubt that any of the current stuff i listen to is influenced by Dylan or the Beatles. just played the Thievery Corp interview from their 1 world set, their inlfuences are jamaican, hindu, brazilian, funk, david byrne ( whom i missed from my influences, doh) no mention of any 60's music as they are too young for it.

Because of the distribution of music it was only the "major" artists that got heard in the 50's and 60's. Shows like John Peels brought unknown artists an audience on a major radio station, it opened the door to lots of new stuff and thats what i consider influential. Punk brought new small record labels, small production runs and once again altered distribution, you didnt need a major label to plug your music, loads of new record shops opened so it was easy to get the music as well. Dance did the same in the late 80's/90's and now the internet makes anything accesible, the artist is a small ( but important)) part of what we listen to or influenced us.

Anyway

He (Dylan) was also influenced heavily by other artists that we have never heard off (bit like all the ones you mentioned, Thievery... who :puzzled::D). It's the now, it's the roots. I should have titled it "who pioneered...".

I remember being blown away by Dark Side of The Moon (if fact if I remember I was blown away) and "Kashmir" and Black Sabbath etc but where did it all start:smug:

electricsheep 27-Sep-2005 21:24

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Originally posted by Crunchy
Who the FOOK is Tatu:alien:

completely lame rusian duo, chosen purely based on slutty lesbian hit a couple of years back

http://www.mtv.com/news/yhif/tatu/

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 21:26

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Originally posted by Gizmo
ok, gizmo tunes is back on line

http://therapy.dyndns.org:8000/playlist.pls

enjoy

ps you might need to paste that into itunes streams or similar

[Edited on 27-9-2005 by Gizmo]

Yer link doesn't work. What do I have to do

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:30

sorry forgot i changed internal ip, try again now

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:32

http://86.139.123.219:8000/playlist.pls

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 21:34

your in now, enjoy :)

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 21:35

How did you know that:puzzled:

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 21:49

Quote:

Originally posted by Gizmo
ok, gizmo tunes is back on line

http://therapy.dyndns.org:8000/playlist.pls

enjoy

ps you might need to paste that into itunes streams or similar

[Edited on 27-9-2005 by Gizmo]

BUT. This music is where all music is based, African, S:American Asian. European I've not heard you mention the Mountains, that's what influenced Mozart :D he also has a role to play if your baseing your argument on this music

Dylan also says he was influenced by folk, country, rock "N" roll. He managed in his OWN way to bring it all together and INFLUENCE other artists. :smug:

P.S. It's good music to chill-out on though

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 22:21

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Originally posted by Crunchy

BUT. This music is where all music is based, African, S:American Asian. European I've not heard you mention the Mountains, that's what influenced Mozart :D he also has a role to play if your baseing your argument on this music

Dylan also says he was influenced by folk, country, rock "N" roll. He managed in his OWN way to bring it all together and INFLUENCE other artists. :smug:

P.S. It's good music to chill-out on though

ah, you make assumptions based upon a few tracks from 1 set I played to demonstrate just how wide musical influences can be to one pair of DJ's ( i quite like their work), my mp3 collection is over 2000 albums, cd's in excess of 700 and thats just from last 15 years, vinyl was probably about 600 albums before i sold the whole collection. theres everything in there ( no beathles, dylan, stones or pink floyd before anyone asks) so i had lots of choice :) check my previous post, you'll find William Orbit mentioned, his reworks of some of the claasics are well worth a listen, the production is up to date and the combination of that and the track makes it more interesting to me, how about opera?, puccini maybe ??theres lots of influence in dance music from his work. we've all been influenced by what we listen to, you just happened to be Dylan and The Beatles but music covers a very wide spectrum and its hard to know exactly what does influence anything.... :) just enjoy it for what it is:)

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 23:40

You wouldn't happen to be a Music Professor would you Gizmo :D

Gizmo 27-Sep-2005 23:46

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Originally posted by Crunchy
You wouldn't happen to be a Music Professor would you Gizmo :D

Nope I've just been a big music fan for a lot of years and have now stopped looking for meaning or making it anything other than listening pleasure :)

thanks for a bit of fun on a boring day stuck in the house anyway :)

Crunchy 27-Sep-2005 23:51

Me too

Did you watch the Documentary. I was hoping they brought it up to the present. Stopped at 1966. Or was that an old program.

whyworry 28-Sep-2005 00:27

what about Rick Waller?:sing:

swannymere 28-Sep-2005 01:07

:devil:What about the Beach Boys/Brian Wilson,extremely influential amongst musicians and made the Beatles pull their fingers out of their arses'.Bob Dylan is great but surely just an update of Folk/Country songs?

KeefyB 28-Sep-2005 18:59

Nah,the punk rock explosion did it for me.
Kicked everyone up the a55!:cool:

Monty 28-Sep-2005 19:27

Howling Wolf, Leadbelly, Champion Jack Duprey, Albert Collins no-one has mentioned the blues yet, or jazz, try Thelonius Monk for starters.

John

Mr_S 28-Sep-2005 20:11

Coltrane

rcgbob44 28-Sep-2005 20:45

Kylie..............................dribble, dribble, dribble:P:P:P


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