Ground Anchor
 

What's folks opinion regarding ground anchors?

Should you bolt them into your concrete floor or are they better mounted into the wall?
Anyone have any experience of how secure (or not) they are?
Anecdotes, opinions and wild speculation all equally welcome!

Cheers!

I've never heard of anyone bolting one to a wall. It would be fairly easy for someone to remove a few bricks if they really wanted your bike. Best to bolt it to a nice solid concrete floor.

I think the idea behind wall mounting is that you can keep the chain off the floor, thus removing a nice solid surface to bash the chain or lock on. But I take Mr Rockhopper's point.

http://www.rhinodevelopments.co.uk/

Defiant Ground Anchor - £120 fully fitted for you ......

Cracking bit of kit, myself and most of my mates have them .........

Point taken Loz, but if the anchor is designed correctly and you keep the chain or whatever off the floor then it'll be loads better than wall mounting. If you give a typical garage wall a few bangs with a lump hammer then the bricks will start to loosen, nick the bike along with the anchor!!

When I use a ground anchor I keep the chain off the floor by passing the chain through the frame, then winding the slack length around and around the other run of the chain. The whole thing is nice and tight, and as it's off the floor, should be a bit more difficult to attack.

mines bolted to wall in a tight corner high enough of floor so chain is kept off floor, the wall is the house wall to so they wont take out the bricks:D

only the front wheel locked to it but its so tight in the corner they would have trouble carrying it out + i got 5 locks in total, chain to anchor and squire disc lock on front wheel, and abus chain on back with padlock on drive chain also lock on door:D over kill ? lol

Oh yeah and a meta alarm:D

like your style. to get to my bike, one has to....

first of all get past a security gate locked with a squire CEN6 lock, then they'll find that the duc is locked through the frame to a 6" RSJ fire escape support by an almax 16mm chain and squire CEN6 lock. the front wheel has a xena alarmed disc lock and the bike is fitted with a cat 1 alarm. parked across the back wheel of the duc and therefore blocking it in is a bandit 600 which is locked through the frame to the back wheel of the duc with a 13mm english chain and lock and the front wheel of the bandit also has the same xena disc lock as the duc. oh yeah, and the whole setup is under motion sensitve security lights and motion sensitive CCTV coverage and is overlooked by numerous nosey neighbours who are at home day and night

oh the joys of living in london.:(

Hehe are we paranoid lol, I know mines insured but the inconvenience and stuff which cant be replaced with money is important to me all the personal touches etc.

I see to many bikes just left for the taking just makes it easy for the thieves:bouncy:

i had my previous 748 stolen from the pavement outside my houise in april after only 3 weeks of ownership and before i'd had a ramp built in order to enable me to get the bikes into my back yard. the bike was insured and i got a full settlement with no quibbles (thanks carole nash), but taking into account the excess, the loss of a full year's premium, and the cover, locks, alarm etc the theft cost me about £1500 - hence the paranoia and the current security overkill.

Ground anchor bolted in to a corner of the garage to a solid concrete floor with security bolts, the heads snap off when tightened.



A very simple yet effective security measure ..... Wireless baby monitor. If any one tries to break in to the garage, past the numerous locks, locks on the bike, alarms etc they will make more than enough noise to set off the baby monitor that is sat next to my side of the bed :D

Just one word of warning, don't sit in the garage discussing "Private" things with mates when the wife is in the bedroom next to the baby monitor :(

[Edited on 28-9-2005 by Carbon749]

Mine's bolted into the floor between where the two bikes are parked, then chained through the anchor and wound around both bikes taking out any slack. Works for me.

what do you guys do when you ride. Carry all those locks with you? Post a gaurd? Bring the bike into the pub with you. Jeez, I would think parking one in a Bradley AFV would solve the problem. Then you can hit the suckers with a TOW or chain gun as they run off empty handed.
Would you get prosecuted if you electrocuted them in the act of knicking your baby?
I guess, the best thing to do in the UK is paint the thing a nauseous pink or putrid green and hope that scares off the thieves.

I second that motion. Only 75bucks if you fit it yourself. It's a piece of cake so long as your hammer drill does not give up the ghost halfway through the first hole....:(

At work mine is visible to all in office i just take the small chain as sometimes we are all not there. I never really leave it anywhere else for long so when at home needs to be most secure:D:D

Any lock is btter than no lock , so if you can only fit it to the wall do it , dont forget to lock any tools in the garage up , its no good having locks if the tools to break em are lying in the garage ,plus dont leave yer leathers/helmet there either , if next door see's some one in you leathers or helmet riding out of you garage on your bike you cant blame em for not thinking its a thief :o

Thanks guys, some excellent ideas have been put forward.

I just wish I could find some way of threading my chain through the 999's frame. I'll figure it out....

Hmm i'd love a ground anchor especially as someone walked off with my lock and chain yesterday :rolleye:

My garage floor is tarmac covered with a fine gravel so i don't think a ground anchor could be fitted :puzzled:

Heres a pic must get the leak in the roof fixed soon ;)

Simple, weld a ground anchor to the metal shed next to the Kwak :D

chop/dig a hole in the floor and fill it with a few bucketloads of concrete. before it sets, stick your ground anchor in there and hey presto. wickes do a readymix for setting fence posts - i've heard that's pretty good stuff for the job

For my first bike, my pride and joy which I polished every Saturday and rode every Sunday, I had a flower bed in front of my house dug up, filled with concrete and an iron hoop sunk into it, then used a very thick chain to tie the bike to it. No sooner was this done than all the coppers in my road (of which there were many), warned me that someone with an oxyacetylene torch would have that away in minutes. :(

Thus I developed the 'that bike is so filthy I can't be @r$ed to nick it' philosphy.

:eureka:

You've seen my garage Loz, which of the options that have been suggested on this thread do you think would be favourite for it? I've seen Dibs' anchor and that looks pretty secure. Shall we see if we can get a discount if we order two?
:sing::sing:

I bought this one about 18 months ago and am very pleased will bolt into a wall or concrete floor. Very easy to install - took me 30 mins and i'm a numpty at this kind of stuff, doesn't get in the way (so you don't trip over it) and only 50 dabs!

http://www.accessunderwriting.co.uk/...9fe3 a1c3882b

I won't be going the Dibble route. There's one I used to have in the garage I owned before my current one - I forgotten the name of it but it is like a shiny ring that rotates around a hub that is driven into the concrete. The good thing about it is it only pertrudes an inch and a half off the floor so it's nicely out of the way. If I remember the name of it, I'll post it, it was a nice piece of kit and I shall buy another one I reckon.

As for your garage, Ruth, you already have the best anti-theft device there is - no, not Zara ... they have to find the damn bike before they can nick it!
:lol:

PS I've just noticed that Stuart Hill has posted the very thing I was talking about (see message above mine). Good choice, Stuart!

[Edited on 29-9-2005 by Loz]

Sort of related to this thread "just";)

i was approached by someone from the flats opposite me (he owns a bike too) and he offered me a partially built Bikesafe (one of them metal bike shed things) for £200 as he is immigrating I said i'd think about it,
to be honest it would stand out like a sore thumb in my car park almost as good as a sign saying "i've got a bike please try and steal it".
Then when i metioned someone had stolen my lock and chain he offered me a massive lock and chain with keys for nothing a very nice offer well it would have been if i hadn't spent £90 on a new one yesterday :rolleye:

Just one word of warning, don't sit in the garage discussing "Private" things with mates when the wife is in the bedroom next to the baby monitor :(

[Edited on 28-9-2005 by Carbon749] [/quote]

:lol::lol::lol: Come on 749 what kind of "private things"

I wrote this a while back when I did one at the old house - might be of help...

http://www.ukrm.net/accessories/antegroundanch.html

I employ Baby monitor and a garage alarm these days but theyr're not as effective as the two Staffordshire Bull Terriers I use to let roam the garage especially the one that like to bite people.

That looks good. Must admit im very naive with these sort of things...you never think its going to happen to you do you ?

Any other thoughts on ths type of anchor..?

Cheers
Nat

too much security, i like nattyboys, cant beat the dogs......

/ian

[Edited on 17-10-2005 by weeian]

What ever you decide on Wall or floor, remember to hide your keys in a safe place in the house.

I have two chains, two wall mounted anchors, in a locked shed behind another padlocked gate, with a meta alarm.

Thus, it is easier for a thief to break into your house and find your keys.