Nanny State
 

Due to some of us having hijacked another thread....... :devil:

Chicken or egg???

Which came first, the death of common sense or the birth of the nanny state ???

Discuss...... :devil::devil::lol::P

My pet hate and seems to have become my favouite topic of conversation these days.

Anyway, as far back as I can recall .... common sense started a slow lingering death when the "Looney London Boroughs" started to get politically correct and banned "black boards" and rewrote nursery rymes (Farmer Has A Friend, Ba Ba White Sheep, etc). Didn't a certain "Red Ken" have something to do with that? I think that would have been in the late 1970s.

Was the the birth of the Nanny State?

[Edited on 22-10-2005 by HW]

hmm .............. i'm a teacher and i know nothing of blackboards being banned (either physically or by name), indeed we actually still have some at our school although they are very messy to use. i myself use a whiteboard. is this banning of blackboards an urban myth of some sort?

Wasn't an urban myth ... it was a big thing at the time. As with everything though, comes round full circle as another fad becomes flavour of the week.

I have to agree with Henry. I have no time for this politically correct crap. In some areas up here blackboards must be referred to as chalkboards. Since when did a blackboard have race for goodness sake?
More alarming is the intended reqirement for us all to carry ID cards at our expense to prove who we are - and the Govt. now more or less admit that they will do nothing to prevent terrorism anyway. There have also been proposals (by a number plate manufacturer no less) for all vehicles to have a transponder built in to their number plates so that roadside scanners can verify insurance, road tax, and owner details and read the vehicles speed. I'm sure there will be worse to come. The whole lot just sickens me. :flame:

Has anyone else noticed that Charles Clarke bears a startling resemblance to Fungus the Bogeyman! :rodent:

The state.

Sadly it is the opinions of the liberal rulers in political, judicial and media power who are responsible for our current state of affairs.

They seem to have an agenda which is very slowly and silently eating away at the values which enabled this country to stand up to tyranny of the highest order during two world wars.

Yes it is wrong to bully, insult verbally or physically hurt someone who you don't like or disagree with.

But it is also wrong to stifle free speech and opinion. In nazi Germany ordinary people were terrified to speak their mind for fear of being reported to the authorities and punished accordingly.

It seems to me that those in power want to create an unstable society to justify their intended actions.

Oops got to go , it's time for my medication:D

The seeds of the nanny state could well have been sown in the early days of political correctness.

The growing conditions have been helped by government that feels the need to come up with a new policy on something every day and the icing on the cake are the plague of no win no fee brigade all to ready to help you cash in. You don't have to worry about what you do 'cos you can blame somebody else and cash in.

Maybe it was those little notices on Harley mirrors "objects may appear more distant than they are"?

Everywhere you look there are little warning signs, e.g. "caution Hot water" on Hot tap FFS.


Bike related ones ranged from " preserve nature, wear a helmet" could just as easily read "Stop evolution wear a helmet"

"caution hot exhaust" Well I hope it's hot because if it isn't the engine has stopped and I've broken down.

Some of the rules/laws are needed to stop those who for whatever reason just don't know where the boundaries are, i.e. the heavy stuff like violence to children. But the trouble is where do you stop. A few rules are good so more must be better?

Where I work it's got that bad that peeps are starting to get disciplinaries for speaking their mind not on the hot spuds like race, gender, etc but on their opinions of the latest IT system that doesn't work.

It's all oK though 'cos we have a meditation room!! off there now to contemplate me navel a bit more!

Ray

[Edited on 24-10-2005 by Ray]

Perhaps we need to teach parents to teach their kids a bit of common sense, instead of abdicating all their responsibilty like so many do. Like why should teachers be responsible for sex education etc ????? We were taught the boundaries at home by parents, so teachers, government etc didn't need to.

I think you're probably right, but when many parents don't know what the boundaries are you can see why we have drifted into a situation where the government feels it needs to meddle all the time.

Nah! Waste of time! Just shoot the lot of em, s'all they deserve isn't it? :devil:

Not automatically ruling it out as an option ... just to be clear though, do you mean kids, parents or the government?

Or, all of the above? :eureka:

Why the kids of course ;)

With no more horrible brats running around there'll be no more kid-napping, child molesting or child abuse. They wont grow up into lairy adolescents with attitude who think they are owed a living before getting a licence (or not eh CK?) and terrorising us legitimate road users and over pressed constabularies; and THEY won't grow up into pimply graduates taking away all the good jobs from us "Over 40's" even though we have the experience (just because our qualifications are a mere 20 years out of date); and THEY won't grow up into the slick haired greasy politicians who decide to give anyone with a job the right to pay more tax so that those who can't be bothered to get a job don't even have to try any more and get given everything on a plate
Apart from wanting someone around to pay taxes to keep my pension going when I retire in 20 years time, no reason in particular :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's some (apparently) genuine, and very odd, product labels sent to me this morning:

On a Morphy Richards hairdryer -- "Do not use while sleeping"

On a bag of Fritos -- "You could be a winner! No purchase necessary. Details inside."

On a bar of Dial soap -- "Directions: Use like regular soap."

On some Birds Eye frozen dinners -- "Serving suggestion: Defrost."

On Tesco's Tiramisu dessert (printed on bottom) -- "Do not turn upside down."

On Marks &Spencer Bread Pudding -- "Product will be hot after heating."

On packaging for a Rowenta iron -- "Do not iron clothes on body."

On Boot's Children Cough Medicine -- "Do not drive a car or operate machinery after taking this medication."

On Nytol Sleep Aid -- "Warning: May cause drowsiness."

On most brands of Christmas lights -- "For indoor or outdoor use only."

On a Japanese food processor -- "Not to be used for the other use." - what's that then???

On Sainsbury's peanuts -- "Warning: contains nuts."

On an American Airlines packet of nuts -- "Instructions: Open packet, eat nuts."

On a child's Superman costume -- "Wearing of this garment does not enable you to fly."

On a Swedish chainsaw -- "Do not attempt to stop chain with your hands or genitals." - did this really happen?

Eek! That doesn't bear thinking about. :o

I see piggy banks are the latest pc victims. :puzzled:
Bacon and pork will be banned from the shops next.

There was a lady in the USA, some years ago when microwaves were the latest big idea, that washed her Poodle (thats a dog Mav!) and tried to dry it in the microwave!! She then successfully sued the manufacturers of the microwave because nowhere in the instructions did it say that she shouldn't try to dry her dog in the microwave :o

.....and then there was the guy in the Winnebago who stuck in cruise control, went into the back to make a hot drink and was surprised that it crashed. He then successfully sues Winnebago.

We all see burglars and bike thieves steal without the police making any attempt to catch them given its a waste if time when courts let them go (probably indicting the owner of the property for damaging the thief in some way) and then if they are imprisoned they are paroled early as Group 4 cannot provide room in the privatised prisons......

rant rant

The answer is simply. Catch burglar/thief and cut his/her hands off and make them pass go when they apply for any disability rights. Hang on, don't some middle eastern countries already do this... not long to wait then.

Time for bed I think Nurse...Nurse....

Why don`t we get the government to stop giving handouts to all the asylum seekers and parasites on the dole......................and don`t get me wrong here, some people are on the dole coz they`ve lost there jobs and are looking for work etc, its the free loaders from the eastern block countries etc that I cant stand.

Crime rates have gone up, prostitition has increased and a lot of it has been a result of opening the flood gates to "asylum seekers".yea right!:mad: