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logyk 26-Oct-2005 12:42

Socket size.......
 
Could someone in the know let me know the socket size for the rear axle nut on a 999.....need to remove the back wheel and will need to buy the socket.

Thanks in anticipation.

yeti 26-Oct-2005 12:53

Have you rung Nelly? He'll know straight off the top of his head.....

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 12:54

:saint:Rear wheel nut is 30mm (180 N/m):saint:

logyk 26-Oct-2005 13:00

Thanks guys

chris999 26-Oct-2005 18:15

36mm isn't it !!? :puzzled:

mark749s 26-Oct-2005 19:10

mine is 36mm

mark

andyb 26-Oct-2005 20:10

Quote:

Originally posted by swannymere
:saint:Rear wheel nut is 30mm (180 N/m):saint:

perhaps youve got small nuts........?:lol::lol:

ace 26-Oct-2005 20:26

i,m wiv the big nut boys !! 36mm it is , just checked !!

logyk 26-Oct-2005 20:53

Thanks due to the later posters....fortunately I had not been out and purchased a socket.

Real McCoy 26-Oct-2005 20:55

yeh but what about the earlyer posters :lol::P

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 21:43

:saint:Got the info straight from my DUCATI Workshop manual,nice to know it's accurate,sorry for any inconvienience caused:puzzled:

ace 26-Oct-2005 22:45

got my info straight from my socket set !!! had to adjust my chain !!

HW 26-Oct-2005 22:47

Don't mean to throw a socket (erm, spanner) in the works, but doesn't it depend on waht tpe of swing arm you have? Or are the later models the same nut size?

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 22:49

:saint:Usually just grab whatever socket fits,would'nt have a clue what size it was,so i looked it up:saint:

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 22:49

:saint:Mine's grey swing arm 03 model

ace 26-Oct-2005 22:53

best bet then is to take a bloody tape measure to it then !!! not rocket science !!!
not ace !!

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 22:59

:P Just took a micrometer to it 36mm and so is my socket.WTF,my manual says 30mm and someone else posted 30mm and 180nm but has now deleted the post.
'Not very Ace' what does that mean?

Rally 26-Oct-2005 23:06

Quote:

Originally posted by swannymere
my manual says 30mm and someone else posted 30mm and 180nm but has now deleted the post.

That was me :D Didn't want to duplicate the (mis)information ;)

The manual says 30mm... but probably refers to the thread of the axle not the socket you require. Oops.

If it's any consolation Logyk, I have a titanium axle nut supplied by a well known Tasty supplier which, when I came to fit it last weekend turned out to be totally the wrong size.

ace 26-Oct-2005 23:06

my attempt at a joke :rolleye: obviously not !!! seriously , if they get the size wrong wot about the torque settin :(

Rally 26-Oct-2005 23:11

Yeah, it should be 18 Nm. <=== and that's my attempt at a joke. :P

swannymere 26-Oct-2005 23:12

Quote:

Originally posted by ace
my attempt at a joke :rolleye: obviously not !!! seriously , if they get the size wrong wot about the torque settin :(

I thought it might be an 'in' joke,don't worry not very quick on the uptake after acouple of beers.Just checking the manual again,then going to e-mail DUK to find out why it does'nt tell you 'a' socket size:flame:

ace 26-Oct-2005 23:22

i tried to read one of them manual thingys once ! got bored after it said
"CONGRATULATIONS ON BUYING YOUR FS1E YAMAHA " it,s just gone downhill since then :lol:

Rushjob 26-Oct-2005 23:38

Quote:

I thought it might be an 'in' joke,don't worry not very quick on the uptake after acouple of beers.Just checking the manual again,then going to e-mail DUK to find out why it does'nt tell you 'a' socket size
I'd imagine because it's a workshop manual the writer assumed ( wrongly it seems ) that the reader would READ what was written.

In mine ( ST4S ) it states at the top of column on each page in bold
Part Thread (mm) Nm +/- 10% tolerance Notes

Not seen many socket / spanner sizes in any factory manuals for this sort of thing as the torque value to be used has nothing to do with the size of the spanner/ socket / allen key used to tighten it - it relates to the thread size of the fastener, the purpose it was designed for & it's and the item it threads into's material.

Just a thought before a foot in mouth email gets sent out..........

Rushjob 26-Oct-2005 23:52

As an aside... my rear axle at M25 diameter is rated at 65Nm
The 999RS gives M28.5 at 80Nm
A jump to 180Nm for an increase of another 1.5mm diameter seems a hell of an increase to me.
Just a thought....... :)

rockhopper 26-Oct-2005 23:57

Can we do this entire thread again in foot/pounds please? Nm mean nothing to me!

ace 26-Oct-2005 23:58

well we pay enough for their bloody bikes they should give us the socket/spanner/wotever we want to know size , in a book the size of an encyclopedia !!! ( encyclopedia spelled right at this time !!! result )

Rushjob 26-Oct-2005 23:59

No.
:lol:
Just look on the other side of the torque wrench.......

Rally 27-Oct-2005 00:01

Just to avoid any doubt, Rushjob, look it up. ;)

rockhopper 27-Oct-2005 00:01

Bloody EEC!!

Rushjob 27-Oct-2005 00:06

Quote:

encyclopedia

Well.... ok if you're speaking Modern English ( is that an oxymoron??? )
The original spelling from the ORIGIN pseudo-Greek enkuklopaideia, for enkuklios paideia ‘all-round education’ is Encyclopaedia and it still appears in the Oxford English dictionary.
Alongside the abridged version.........
You'll be typing in an American accent next and misspelling Paediatrics....
:lol:

Rushjob 27-Oct-2005 00:19

Quote:

Just to avoid any doubt, Rushjob, look it up.

I did..... that's what got me thinking when you compare it to the two other values used in similar applications.
On the 996 the rear axle threads are M33 and M38 which only rate 137 and 157Nm respectively!
I know that Ducati have amended some torque values but on what and which way they went I couldn't say.

[Edited on 26-10-2005 by Rushjob]

ace 27-Oct-2005 00:20

ere your not my old english teacher are you ? ( did i spell it right sir )

KeefyB 27-Oct-2005 06:38

Quote:

Originally posted by HW
Don't mean to throw a socket (erm, spanner) in the works, but doesn't it depend on waht tpe of swing arm you have? Or are the later models the same nut size?
Nope,all 999/749 rear wheel nuts are the same,....36mm.

swannymere 27-Oct-2005 11:43

Quote:

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Just a thought before a foot in mouth email gets sent out..........


Thanks,still think it's a **** take,not showing the correct socket size.:P

logyk 27-Oct-2005 12:28

I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut :puzzled:

Rushjob 27-Oct-2005 12:41

Wait till tomorrow Phil & ask one of the Tech guys on the Ducati stand!

logyk 27-Oct-2005 13:11

Maybe I will have to....but I was planning on removing the wheel tonight !

Rally 27-Oct-2005 14:18

Quote:

Originally posted by logyk
I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut

Like I said, if you're in doubt then look it up.
(clue: click on the link)

guest1 27-Oct-2005 14:40

Quote:

Originally posted by Rally
Quote:

Originally posted by logyk
I am still confused as to whether there is any sort of agreement here on the torque setting to be used with a 36mm nut

Like I said, if you're in doubt then look it up.
(clue: click on the link)

The rear wheel nut on mine is 36mm socket size.(clue: look on your bike) :)
180Nm means I'm lifting the bike off it's side stand on the upswing
(999s '06)

Rally 27-Oct-2005 15:45

Hey, I'm just trying to help out here! :)

Yes, the rear nut requires a 36mm socket. I think we've established that.

But there seems to be some doubt over the torque setting so I put up the pdf so people can look it up for themselves. It says 180 Nm (+-10%) (or 132 lbft if you're Rockhopper ;) )


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