Got one
 

Picked her up today 5000 miles from new front and rear paddock stands and a spear exhaust. out on it in the morning. Then it goes under the knife. :o

Next 618ie motor :D

[Edited on 12-11-2005 by ericthered40]

Well done Eric. Looks very tidy.
I'II be following your progress with interest.

Lovely little thing she is I've already started feeling sorry for it ;)

That's a real peach Eric. I didn't know there were any that clean left on the planet! Now comes the fun bit.... :D

Got to find an engine now, not sure weather to keep this one or sell it on, have to see how much I can get a 618 for or were yet?

Still got the tool kit under the seat, It's the first cafe racer one I've seen
I really like it. looks better you think? :roll:

Well I've been told by the DD race committee that I am worrying too much about the cost of moving up from the 583 to the 620 series because "complete 618 engines are to be had in good running order for less than £700".
So you should have no trouble finding one :biaggi:

As much as that Paul, I got the impression you could get one with all the kit needed to get it running for that money.

So Eric twin disc or single as I see it has the lugs on the RH fork leg

well spotted that man,

well we are still debating that one
thoughts would be handy. I know watching last year some single brake set ups were failing miserably but were they using the right fluid in them?:puzzled:

Well, I had this conversation with Geoff (yes, Spencer!!) at Donington after Louigi had converted our twin-disc/P34 set-up (which was way too harsh) to a single disc and P34 caliper - which just boiled the fluid and provided a scary moment in my leathers!!

I'd advise you going for twin disc with standard calipers - I believe that's what Geoff ran, and what Dave Reilly was gunna do following a similar pant-filling moment... and what I would fit to my DD bike if I had one.

Bike looks too good to race - best cane the nuts off it then ;)

Did anyone try wonder fluid? I have been told to try this first before we go with the extra weight seeing as you can't lighten the wheels?

so do am I Eric - she seems so clean:o

Race committee are about right in £700 or less for an engine, but dont forget to factor in the mandatory Power Commander - or FIM chip, which the 'front runners' mostly had this year.

Also, you will have to change the tank, & get the fuel injection pump, to go with the 620 engine.
You will need to partly sort the wiring loom, and if using an ECU - poss get the matching clocks too.

Might just cost you a tad more...... :(

Why not keep to 583 for a season?
But good luck - and cant wait to see her out there

:)

:lol:

I did think of 583 next year but lets just say I was persuaded I would do OK in A class.
:)


I know about the power commander and wiring plus drilling out for larger engine bolts but the tanks a new one on me, change tank for a different one or alter the standard one?

you will need a fuel injection pump Eric with the fuel injected engine, so unless you change the tank to the 'ie' tank, you will need an external fuel pump and a return to tank fuel line.
Talk to Paul Payne - he has already done this with an SS.
I have done it all with the monster.

You dont need to 'drill out' for larger engine bolts - you sleeve the engine - comes courtesy of B&Q for about £7 per length.

Means you can go back to 583 if you ever want to.

Note: if you are using any 620 engine with key recognition, you will need all the parts from that bike, unless you are using a different computer.



Hope this is of help?

Alan

I was all for a single disc setup at the begining of the season, I then had my 3 DNFs at the first meeting at Cadwell all through brake failure. I traced this to the bush in the bottom of left fork protruding to far. I sorted this out and didn't suffer any brake failure problems at the following round at Castle Combe, instead I just suffered fron being out braked by twin disc setups. So after that I went twin disc.
At the Donington round I was talking to my mate about this and his words were "you need twin discs these days".
That was good enough for me considering he races European Supermonos, British Supermonos (47sec laps of Brands Indy on his) , last year he won 3 club championships (Powerbike, Open and SoT) and is also unbeaten since 2003 in ant SoT he has finished including the wet SoT races at Donington.
For the rest of the season I ran with the twin discs, can't say I really noticed any effects from the extra weight but I was certainly a lot more confident in stopping the bike which came in really handy at Hatchetts Hairpin at Pembrey.

Thanks for that makes much more sense to sleeve the engine down.

Did Paul change tank or go for external pump?

Think Paul got a tank, but prob best to u2u him to confirm.

Rich @ Louigimoto put an external pump on the bike that Dom was riding.

Are you going to be doing the work yourself Eric - or 'outsourcing' it?

:)

Twin discs it is then thanks. :lol:

The old SSs come with a fule pump as standard, but it's not as strong as the ie pump. The good news is that it's exactly the same size. The tank has a return spiggot on the bottom. Geoff reconned they just swapped the ie pump into the new tank and that was it, but I may be mistaken as the whole codeine/red wine thing is reaking havoc with my memory... :lol:

Ali

The plan is to do as much my self as possible but i also have the help of the Tecmoto mitch and my tool maker cousin roger

Plot thickening as we speak ? :lol:

I did wonder what the buzzing was when I turned the ignition on :lol:

[Edited on 13-11-2005 by ericthered40]

Can't see a problem with that junk low pressure (probably around 0.4Bar) pump inside tank and replace with a High pressure (probably around 3.0Bar) pump. Then its just a matter of finding somewhere to mount the pressure regulator

Nice one mate, looks very nice indeed!

Well done Eric. And everyone is being tremendously helpful, aren't they? Don't believe that red wine BS of Ali's though. His memory is goddam perfect. He may just be a tad reluctant to share is vast knowledge because he's worried about you being up his chuff next season :devil:

So would any man!!

:lol:

Well just settled in after me first blast on the beast :o

So far i have discovered not to push a Sport max front tyre celebrating it's tenth birthday :o

It's actually much better than i had expected apart from the flat spot in between 2k and 10k it fly.

:burn::P

ha!

Good on you Eric. She looks good too!

I've just gotten off the phone after having a chat about my bike for next year ... I'm really looking forward to this now :D

BRING IT ON NOW!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

You realise the 'old' pilot struggled to stop it from crashing all the time - you sure you can handle it?

:lol:

:lol:

I might not be on that one now ... ;)

Eat my dust Skippy :lol:

:lol:

Eric, I am going to kick your arse next year! ;)

I hope!

you beter coz that's fighting talk for a man on crutches :frog: