Strada EPROM
 

Hi Guys,

I opened the covers on my stock Strada 888 (P7 processor) to check there was no water damage and all looks fine. However, I was somewhat surprised to find the EPROM has a SPO sticker on it. I assumed this was a US market only model with (I assume) leaner settings. Its a paper sticker (no manufacturer marks) that lists "888SPO 1993 -039-". Can anyone confirm if that is what should be fitted?

Thanks,

Keith

According to the FIM website the standard Eprom for the 1993 888 Strada is 038 but further down it shows the 039 as the Italy version.....
See here, click on Eproms
Andy

[Edited on 28-11-2005 by Rushjob]

Thanks Andy. Sounds like it is definately the original chip. If the 039 is the EPROM fitted for the italian market then I doubt it is in anyway restrictive:D

Feel confident ...

- 038 : 888 Strada European model
- 039 : 888 SPO (US market) with similar settings
- 040 + (B) : 888 SP.5

Original EPROM 888 Strada (038) for sale ...

Price : 50 Euros / 35 £ / 75 AUD / 58 USD

U2U for further informations.

Phil911

I'm still a little confused. The FIM website seems to indicate that the 888 was fitted with the same (038 or 039) EPROM regardless of which ECU (P7 or P8) was fitted. If that is correct then does that mean that the big improvement in fuelling that the road test articles attribute to the P8 is actually down the revised EPROM that was first fitted to the P7 in the 888?

Keith

Isn’t the 039 fitment for the SP4 Keith? Also any Ducati guru’s I have spoken to advize to leave the P7 as is, and there is also an issue with the fuel regulator if you change over from the P7 to the P8. Cannot see where any performance increase would come from by fitting the P8 ECU???

Weber-Marelli IAW P7 ECU
851, 907 and early 888's up to serial number 000508.

Weber-Marelli IAW P8 ECU
Later 888's from serial number 000509, 916 Strada, 916SP, 916SPS, 996SPS

The basic reason that the P8 has better performance is that the two cylinders can be fueled independently and differently to compensate for combustion chamber temperature differences caused by a reduced airflow pattern across the vertical cylinder. Consequently, P7s can't use the EPROM's rear cylinder fuel offset map.

Shazaam.....I thought that only the SP888 models used the dual mapping function of the P8? If so, I'm still confused why the road tests of the era claimed the P8 was a big improvement over the P7 if the 888 Strada was using the same fuel map in both P7 and P8 ECUs?

Charlie...I have seen the -039- chip listed as for the Italian market in two separate places. Plus my -039- chip also clearly states SPO on it.

Keith

Thanks for that Shazaam, not sure I follow clearly though, “fuelling independently” i.e. as a base/manual adjustment for optimization on a rolling road or has the P8 the capability to adjust fuel and ignition settings under varied operating conditions on the open road? Just a thought even the fuel these eproms were mapped on is not available nowadays, hard to get a feel for what’s going on.
Fair questions Keith, and then there are the Corsa, Fast by Ferracci .etc etc. eproms options!....I know not!

Both the P7 and P8, with the appropriate chip, can run dual injectors as in the SPs. In these cases the second injector joins in at higher revs and throttle openings to get the required amount of fuel into the engine.
The P7 has identical fuel/ignition maps for front and rear cylinders, and in fact it only has one map which is applied to both front and rear. The P8, with its larger memory has two maps, one for the for the front cylinder and one for the rear. Ducati did not take advantage this facility on the 888, and made the front map the same as the rear. The FIM chip has different maps for front and rear, and is probably the best chip for the 888.

Douglas

Thanks guys I reckon I am catching up now... tps/ecu/eprom... also clear why the eproms are not interchangeable P7/P8.
Anyone use the FIM chip with the P8 ecu , pleased with the results? I would hope their eprom still has the rev limiter included? I note on http://www.fuelinmoto.com.au that ProTwins LTD are their UK distributor.

I have used the FIM 222 chip in the 1.6m ecu in my 888 and it's excellent. Total recomendation. It'll be interesting to see how it copes with all the uning work too.

---> 1.6m ecu in my 888 ???

How did you manage wirh the wiring ???

Hi Keith
I dont know if this will help but ProVTwins sold me a FIM chip to fit in my 93 strada, it didnt work, when i took it up there to get the Hyperpro suspension set up they try'd another chip in case it was faulty but it turned out to be a P7 ecu not the P8 that should have been fitted.
the FIM chip does not work in a P7 ecu.
ian

I appreciate the P7 won't work with any of the dual map P8 upgrade chips but I've actually got no complaints about the fuelling as it is. I am, however, intending on getting Nelly to check the CO when I've got it all back together just to make sure that its not too environmentally friendly! I'm just curious how the -038- and -039- chips differ and if the P8 actually does anything differently when fitted with this same single map chip (if indeed Ducati carried on using the same chips on the 888 Strada when they swapped from the P7 to P8).

Keith

Keith

I took the 1.6M loom and replaced the P8, ign modules and loom completely.

pretty easy really. Oh yes; I added the complete 996 engine too. LOL.

"""Oh yes; I added the complete 996 engine too. LOL."""

--> AAAaaarrrgghhhh !!!!! ... of course !!!
:D