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megalite 15-Dec-2005 15:21

how much for a 749?
 
how much do u think a 749 2nd hand, 6000 miles should be?

Rick 15-Dec-2005 15:23

Not sure of that, but look on Ebay if you want a 749 there is always one or two, Try to get the 749S if you can.

Bibjo 15-Dec-2005 15:32

Well, as a kind of guide, I recently paid £6,500 for a brand new 749, got nearly £2k off! :burn:

megalite 15-Dec-2005 15:54

6500 for a new 749! thats a great deal! and all the ppl on this board (chris999) keep saying i should pay 6500 for a 2nd hand 749!

Bibjo 15-Dec-2005 16:01

It was a very good deal, but I did manage to get the dealership another couple of buyers, but I reckon, if a dealership still has a 2005 in stock, you should get for around £6,700, just haggle hard, especially if you have the cash and no part-ex...dealers are desperate to sell at the mo. Got termi's fitted at cost as well for £900 fitted. :burn:

Davieravie 15-Dec-2005 16:28

My advice is to sit down and email every dealer in the country. By the sounds of things, there is a lot of good deals out there to be had if you want a new bike. If you dont ask, you dont get. Its winter just now (if you haven't realised), perfect time to do it.

posiden 15-Dec-2005 16:47

a new 749 for 6.5K is a very good deal - my concern at the moment is what will it be worth in 6 months ? If dealers are desperate to sell and giving great deals like this will they want a bike in as a part ex and if so i dont think you'll get much for it.
my 749 S cost 9.8K new - at 12 months old and 2.5K miles on the clock I was offer £6500 px against a new 999 !!!!!! thats nearly a 33% loss in one year!

Bibjo 15-Dec-2005 17:04

which is why you must buy at the best price you can...or you will live to regret it! I know that by this time next year, the 749 will probably be worth £4k at the most! :mad:

chris999 15-Dec-2005 22:01

Quote:

Originally posted by megalite
6500 for a new 749! thats a great deal! and all the ppl on this board (chris999) keep saying i should pay 6500 for a 2nd hand 749!

i said you should not take the p**s by offering rediculous low price on a members bike ...:puzzled::mad:

megalite 16-Dec-2005 11:10

i'd say they r taking the **** by asking for a ridiculous price

RCA 16-Dec-2005 12:46

There was an article in last weeks MCN about this, but Ducati dealers are having a nightmare with 749. They have paid up stock on a bike that is not shifting and is depreciating by the minute, it is clearly a buyers market especially on that bike. I would say the situation is as bad, if not worse, as Bennelli's RS's. They have halved the RRP, and still they cannot shift them, now that is a shocker!!!

My advice is to ring round all the Ducati dealers and basically gage who is the most desperate. That's what I did when I bought my R1 and saved £1500 of list price, got 0% finance over 3 years and paid no deposit...(and they said it could'nt be done....)

However, if you want the Ducati experience and are worried about residuals you need to be looking at the 996SPS (£6500+) or 996R (£8500+). A bigger outlay but you will loose less money over time. It’s exactly the same as buying a used/new car, if you want to take a massive hit with a car, buy a jag. If you want to loose virtually nothing buy a facelift model Boxster 3.2S in black with black leather, fully loaded. The only problem is finding one, and the fact that you have to drive round in a car that screams 'I cannot afford a 911....'

RCA!!

megalite 16-Dec-2005 13:07

thanks for the advice. will b doing exactly that

RCA 16-Dec-2005 14:39

You should be able to pick up a new 749 for virtually trade, as most dealers wil be glad to see the back of them. You may need to take a weekend off, but gage which 3 dealers are suggesting the best deal and drive to them all with a lump of cash, remember CASH IS KING!!!

dave996 16-Dec-2005 14:45

I've always found that if you take their finance you get a better deal, as long as you are able to do early settlement with no penalties.

RCA 16-Dec-2005 15:24

Yeah that's why I got my R1 cheap (no cheap jokes please...), the dealer gets a nice commision chq for every finance deal. However, no Ducati dealer is gonna give you a discount and 0%. They are under strict orders to protect Mr C's image and brand, even if their product is a dog.

chris999 16-Dec-2005 16:01

Quote:

Originally posted by megalite
i'd say they r taking the **** by asking for a ridiculous price

no you were taking the p**s !!:mad::mad:

ScottyB 16-Dec-2005 16:33

I wouldn't rise to it Chris.

I told him exactly how to find out the price of a 749 in my very first reply to him on the other thread.

If he asks nicely i have a copy of the latest GAP sat right in front of me.

The questions still begs belief. You either have the money or you don't???

One minute it is 4k, then you have 5, then 4.4k.

What the hell are you doing playing online Poker trying to win enough to buy a Duke???

Top tip.

Decide on a budget and stick to it, work out the cost of insurance, servicing etc (If you don't have a clue about some of the figures ask we will be more than happy to help)

Then and only then start shopping around for bikes.

It will stop you wasting your own time but more importantly the good people of this boards time who are trying to flog their bikes by making bids that you have no intention of backing up.

Regards

ScottyB

Rick 16-Dec-2005 17:36

IF YOU are serious about buying a bike GO and look for one, there are a couple of 749 s for sale on Ebay in your budget.
Or as others have said ring around, you have had alot of help so now its up to you to find it, poeple on here cant do it for you !!

chris999 16-Dec-2005 17:39

well said scotty & rick :saint::saint:

Harv748 16-Dec-2005 17:44

Quote:

Originally posted by ScottyB
What the hell are you doing playing online Poker trying to win enough to buy another Duke???


:cool:...uhm...yep:frog:

Martin Ducati Glasgow 16-Dec-2005 18:22

Well said Scotty B!

Bibjo,
Lets just set the record straight here. I believe you got a 749 for 6.5K. Well done for that. My hat's off to you!

But lets be more accurate, is it a UK bike or an import?
Is it a Hybrid (2005 bike with a 2004 colour chassis, we're all selling them cheaper) or a new 2005 bip with red chassis?

OR is it a 2004 machine (old fairing) reg'd in 2005?
What dealer was it? Are they a recognised UK dealer or what?

What kind of intro did you give the dealer in terms of your mates? Did he sell three bikes instead of just one? (obviously you are all going to get a good deal if that's the case, 'specially at this time of year)

I've got to be honest, that price is SIGNIFICANTLY (think hundreds & hundreds of pounds!) cheaper than we as dealers buy the bikes (remember i'm a store, I have a fairly good idea of price here)

I would suggest that 6.5K is a poor "guide" as you put it?

I can't see a dealer "blowing his brains out" to the tune of hundreds of pounds just to clear a bike off the showroom floor. Any dealer worth his salt is gonna break even at least!
This could have simply been a one off deal in that dealership for some strange reason!

Trouble is, hundreds of guys may go into their local dealer and think they are getting ripped off after reading this thread.

I've gotta say, you need to be careful with comments like "a 749 will be worth £4,000 this time next year"
Maybe you're right there but I SERIOUSLY doubt it! No offence mate, but my humble opinion is you're miles off with that prediction!!!

Posiden is spot on, this kind of open discussion on deals can seriously harm all of our residual values (I ride a 749R, see my avatar).
It's nice to be loud & proud of the deal you got but you need to be EXACT about the circumstances on which the deal was based otherwise you are poisoning the market for the rest of the 749 owners and buyers out there (including yourself mate)

Truth is 749's have not sold as many as in recent years this year, but they are buy no means a knightmare. Eg, I sold 2 last week at good money. Year on year some bikes are better than others, it could be totally different next year, go figure!!

Best advice is, don't just think about the cost of buying the machine, think of the cost of owning it for 3-4 years (servicing, parts, clothing, problem solving, help, community,etc!) try and develop a good close friendship with your local team, support your local dealer and you should get much more back in return (I like to think my customers do!). THAT'S THE WAY TO SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN!:D:D

Megalite, Chris999 is right! A used 749 IS worth £6.5k Dependant on price, spec etc.
You gotta play the game here chap, offering a few hundred quid off the asking price is the norm, not a couple of grand. It's not a rice rocket! (no offence to the jap owners, just a feeble jest honest!! :D) Trust me i'm a dealer!!:lol::lol:

RCA, I just can't agree to the comparison between a Benelli and a 749! Don't believe everything you read mate! At one point this year I couldn't get enough 749's. In my humble opinion they are one of the best bikes Ducati have ever built, thats why i've had two of em! I had a 998S before that!

RCA, i'm reading your post and no offence mate, your opinion seems based on the MCN story. Again don't belive everything you read in there, trust me!
Your comments on Porsche are controversial to say the least!
The Boxter is one of the best handling Porsches they make, (the new hard top Boxter Caymen (spelling?) is apparently astounding) ask anyone!
I think a chat with you would be good fun mate, you seem to like a bit of controversy!! ;)

Dave996, you're right too mate, finance pays a little, helps the deal out, not masses but it's a step in the right direction!

Finally 749's are just the bogs dollocks! Anyone wanting one, don't think about it just buy one they are truly awe inspiring!!
:):):):)

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

Bibjo 16-Dec-2005 18:41

I'm glad you posted Martin, as going by some of the replies on this thread, I was beginning to think that I'd bought a very unpopular bike, even though I love it and enjoy riding it.

Re the bike. This was bought from a main dealer, is a uk bike and is an official 2005 bike with the red/black frame. The situation with the dealer re price was that they were matching a price from another dealer (that I kind of made up to a certain extent). I also said that I knew of a couple of people who might be interested in two of their bikes. This was true, but they could only take my word for this. From what I could gather, this was a one-off deal, and I know it was a very good price. I dont think they made any money out of the deal, but I think they get some kind of bonus from the manufacturer? I used to be in the car trade and I know does happen. At the end of the day, I got on very well with them guys and it may have helped that I was a female...shouldnt say that I know....but sometimes it is an advantage! I hope my bike doesnt depreciate too much by next year, but if dealers go down that low, then who in their right mind is going to pay more? I think that if a dealer has any left at this time of year, they will sell at cost. Maybe I shouldnt have disclosed the price...I was just trying to help.

itexuk 16-Dec-2005 18:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow

Finally 749's are just the bogs dollocks! Anyone wanting one, don't think about it just buy one they are truly awe inspiring!!
:):):):)

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

I agree, had my 749S 6 months and I can't fault it. Great looks, great performance and handling. :D:D:D

Carbon749 16-Dec-2005 19:08

Quote:

Originally posted by itexuk
Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow

Finally 749's are just the bogs dollocks! Anyone wanting one, don't think about it just buy one they are truly awe inspiring!!
:):):):)

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

I agree, had my 749S 6 months and I can't fault it. Great looks, great performance and handling. :D:D:D

Again ... I'm also a 2003 749s owner from new and love the bike. Does everything I ask of it ... and then some.

Also, not bragging but, I have a 911 which I will be selling in spring to buy a boxster. Nothing to do with money, I just want a 2 seater open top sports car and consider the Boxster to be the best option. Definetly not a case of being a wanna be 911 owner :mad:

Martin Ducati Glasgow 16-Dec-2005 19:10

When you say you don't think they made any money! I can guarantee you they lost FORTUNES on that deal! :puzzled: I'm honestly further astounded that they were matching another dealers price, that's just madness mate!!

That means there are some nutters out there dedicating a significant part of their sales bonus towards a sale! Confusing! Like you say, most likely a one off or a rarity at least!

To anyone else out there, don't worry this is not an accurate reflection of every deal happening! Winter madness maybe!

Thanks for you're honesty Bibjo!

By the way, you good looking / single? Maybe our 749's could meet !!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::P (sorry, poor taste:D Must of forgot what chat forum i'm on :lol: !!)

P.S. Echo to itexuk and Carbon 749 posts

Bibjo 16-Dec-2005 19:14

sadly not single....go out with a bloke who hates bikes...gives me a bit of peace and quiet at times though! :burn:

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 19:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow

By the way, you good looking / single? Maybe our 749's could meet !!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::P (sorry, poor taste:D Must of forgot what chat forum i'm on :lol: !!)

P.S. Echo to itexuk and Carbon 749 posts

You 'kin TART!!!!! :barfy::barfy::barfy::barfy::lol::lol::lol:

itexuk 16-Dec-2005 19:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow

By the way, you good looking / single? Maybe our 749's could meet !!! :lol::lol::lol::lol::P (sorry, poor taste:D Must of forgot what chat forum i'm on :lol: !!)

P.S. Echo to itexuk and Carbon 749 posts

Sorry Martin, Single but in love with my bike and not gay :lol::lol::lol::D;)

Martin Ducati Glasgow 16-Dec-2005 19:25

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Learned it all from you mate (Davie)!!

I was hoping you would see this and show us how it's done....... seeing as you're the expert ;);):lol:

Nice one itexuk, you got me there!!:lol:

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 19:28

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Learned it all from you mate (Davie)!!

I was hoping you would see this and show us how it's done....... seeing as you're the expert ;);):lol:

Nice one itexuk, you got me there!!:lol:

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Martin Ducati Glasgow]

I think another night out is order like we discussed.....You have much to learn young Skywalker!!!!!;)

TP 16-Dec-2005 19:31

Look out! Lock up your daughters in Glasgow!!!!

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 19:33

Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Look out! Lock up your daughters in Glasgow!!!!

Another Supermarket sweep for you TP......Sainsburys......Wolf Blass.....£5.99!!!! If youre not fast, youre last!

Martin Ducati Glasgow 16-Dec-2005 19:33

Quote:

I think another night out is order like we discussed.....You have much to learn young Skywalker!!!!!



Looking forward to it mate, but if i'm Skywalker, who are you??

Obi ****i-Knobby??

:lol::lol::lol:

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 19:34

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin Ducati Glasgow
Quote:

I think another night out is order like we discussed.....You have much to learn young Skywalker!!!!!



Looking forward to it mate, but if i'm Skywalker, who are you??

Obi ****i-Knobby?

:lol::lol::lol:


******Im Beat, Bollox********

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Davieravie]

Martin Ducati Glasgow 16-Dec-2005 19:36

:lol::lol::lol::P:P:P:lol::lol::lol:

Funny as!!!

TP 16-Dec-2005 19:38

Quote:

Originally posted by Davieravie
Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Look out! Lock up your daughters in Glasgow!!!!

Another Supermarket sweep for you TP......Sainsburys......Wolf Blass.....£5.99!!!! If youre not fast, youre last!

I'm several light years ahead of you, Waitrose has the same deal and there are a few gracing my wine rack ;)

On the beer at the moment though ...

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 19:42

Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Quote:

Originally posted by Davieravie
Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Look out! Lock up your daughters in Glasgow!!!!

Another Supermarket sweep for you TP......Sainsburys......Wolf Blass.....£5.99!!!! If youre not fast, youre last!

I'm several light years ahead of you, Waitrose has the same deal and there are a few gracing my wine rack ;)

On the beer at the moment though ...

Got a nice wee Aussie red in front of me, half done the now. A Kingston "Emperic" 2003. Nice little cheeky number. Have you sampled?

TP 16-Dec-2005 19:46

Quote:

Originally posted by Davieravie
Got a nice wee Aussie red in front of me, half done the now. A Kingston "Emperic" 2003. Nice little cheeky number. Have you sampled?

No haven't tried that one yet. I'll put it on the list!

Enjoy!

ScottyB 16-Dec-2005 19:59

[quote]Originally posted by Davieravie
[quote]

A Kingston "Emperic" 2003. Nice little cheeky number.

My arse mair like a bottle a Buckey fae the wee hamilton Ackies on the corner ya wee jambo soap dodging skip rat....

Rix is a beast, must be where you get it fae!!!

:D:D

Davieravie 16-Dec-2005 20:16

[quote]Originally posted by ScottyB
[quote]Originally posted by Davieravie
Quote:


A Kingston "Emperic" 2003. Nice little cheeky number.

My arse mair like a bottle a Buckey fae the wee hamilton Ackies on the corner ya wee jambo soap dodging skip rat....

Rix is a beast, must be where you get it fae!!!

:D:D

What's your tipple out in the middle of the North Sea......NOWT. NOTHING, NIXIE, ZERO!!!!!!! You'd love a wee drink the now...Friday night as well....but you cant!!! Can you taste it Scotty....no ye cannae! ;):P;):P;):P:D:D:D:D

[Edited on 16-12-2005 by Davieravie]


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