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paologray 18-Dec-2005 22:47

new owner!
 
well, i will be by the end of next week!!

Ive bought a 750ss 1993 model. does anyone know if its a carb or injection model (im very new to dukes). it has twin disks if that helps...
also, what do I need to look for when I go to pick it up?

also, ive just won some ducati performance cans and a chip on ebay for £90, a good price i think, but its for a 900ss. are the cans and chip able to fit to 750? If not, ill just sell them on. I can probably fabricate the cans to fit though...

thanks

paul

GsxrAge 18-Dec-2005 22:58

I think it cabs mate

But your cans should fit either models :cool:


Welcome aboard anyway

:cool:

paologray 18-Dec-2005 23:04

oh great, thats what I was hoping because the frames look similar. does anyone know if the chip will fit???

paolo

oh, and are there any south wales owners clubs?

GsxrAge 18-Dec-2005 23:10

Quote:

Originally posted by paologray
oh great, thats what I was hoping because the frames look similar. does anyone know if the chip will fit???

paolo

oh, and are there any south wales owners clubs?


I would say that if your 750 was fuel injected it would need a different chip to the 900:(


Oh a few of us will be at LLandow in June check out trackday thread.


Age


But I am sure someone will be along soon to tell us whats what. :lol:

[Edited on 18-12-2005 by AGE996]

Scooter916 18-Dec-2005 23:19

93 750ss has no chip as its a carbed bike, Pipes may fit, or will be persuaded to fit.
Glyn

Herb 18-Dec-2005 23:48

Re-sell the pipes and chip as a set to someone with a later injected machine.

Use the proceeds to buy the right pipes for your bike. Lots out there.

Iconic944ss 19-Dec-2005 09:13

Welcome Paul - another ss owner is always good to see.

Your 750 has carbs and does not need the Chip in any way, shape or form.

As has been said - the cans, can be made to fit but you might well better off selling them on as a set.
Actually, just saw the price - £90 is good and I've been surprised how much standard cans are going for on Ebay.
If you want to make the cans 'hi-level' - you might have to do away with the pillion footrests.

I noticed the front mudguard looks unusual or are your calipers painted red?

Nice clean looking bike - have fun.

Cheers - Frank

ps - Loads of SS info in here - WELL WORTH THE JOINING FEE :D:D:D

paologray 19-Dec-2005 10:15

It looks like I have 2 disks on the front but only 1 caliper??
whats that all aboot?
It looks like the front mudguard has the extra bit behind the fork leg, but I cant see a caliper there??

anyone got any ideas??

Chief R.B. 19-Dec-2005 11:21

Is that a cover over the caliper mounting behind the fork leg? I'm sure that should have a caliper there if its got a disc...

I'd ask a few questions before you take the bike, or check if the brake hose has been replaced as it should have a split to the other caliper just above the mudgaurd (i think...i have an 03 model but as far as i know its the same).

Looks like a clean bike tho

Good luck mate

:D

paologray 19-Dec-2005 13:02

suppose what I need to know really is should it have twin disks? The guy is nice enough and its a private sale, but can I just take the disk off and use a single disk set up if it is missing the right hand caliper?

FiscusFish 19-Dec-2005 13:22

According to Ian Falloons book ( http://snipurl.com/kwgp ) which is kind of the two valve bible the '93 750 should have black wheels, bronze frame, silver crankcases but black side covers, which from the small picture appears to be there...

It should also only have one disc so the extra disc has been added afterwards rather than a calliper being taken off. You've got the choice of adding a calliper (and possibly changing the master cylinder) or possibly simply removing the disc. I believe the single disc'd wheel was the same but with a blanking plate over the holes. One of the DD racing guys would know for sure since quite a few of them added a second disc to their single disc'd 600s. Personally I'd buy a new calliper and change the master if necessary...

paologray 19-Dec-2005 13:43

Fish Boy, thats what Im thinking, Maybe he has replaced the front wheel and missed the fact that he needs a new caliper...
there is a whole set of calipers on ebay at the moment from a 900ss, but they will bolt straight on wont they? suppose its best for me to get the bike and make sure everything else is kosha then try and get the caliper problem sorted...
Im so excited now!!
Ive been riding me Zephyr 550 and a rgv250 for the last 4 years, and to say Im bored is an understatement!!

oh, anyone want to buy an RGV250 wolf or zephyr 550????

paologray 19-Dec-2005 17:06

just had a message off the owner, he said hes just been out to look at it and both calipers ore on the bike. phew!

can I have some buying tips please? what are the expensive/obvious things to look for etc...?

keefer 19-Dec-2005 17:26

err welcome.
from reading your posts it sounds like you need to take someone along with you when you go to look at this bike.
and be careful about buying bits for your new steed of flea bay unless you are sure they fit you bike.
the pipes you have bought are off a 900 injected bike and I will be surprised if they fit straight on to your model.
hope they do though and welcome to the club. lots of good info on here so have a good dig about.

paologray 19-Dec-2005 17:36

Im pretty handy at making things fit!
If they wont go on, ill sell the chip and can set, as its off a 900 IE.

The bike is in Wombourne in wolverhampton, does anyone live near there that could possibly help to look at it?

Herb 19-Dec-2005 18:39

Hi Paulogray,

I thought I recognised that pic on ebay.

item number 4597641910

There is something not quite right about that auction. He does not want to give out his own number but is happy for his friend to???

Be careful and if in any doubt at all walk away. There are lots of 750 / 900 ss around for little money right now so if that is the type of machine you want then hang on. It has been listed before and did not sell. You may be able to haggle pretty hard if you decide that this is the bike for you.

Make mine a mulled wine seeing as its the season.

paologray 19-Dec-2005 19:14

well, I hope its okay because Im coming up from Cardiff to see it!
I must admit I was a bit sceptical(?) about it, but I rang the guy and he does seem nice enough. Ive got the sellers number now and after a bit of a chat we agreed on a price. it cheap, some might say too cheap...

Its got 8 months T+T on it, so I suppose I should check the frame and engine numbers etc...:eureka:

Oh, you could not bid on the bike as he was advertising it as an invitation to view only.

GsxrAge 19-Dec-2005 20:14

If I were you mate I would pay for an HPI check just incase.

I do find it strange that he had to go outside to check if his OWN bike had two calipers on it.

adnydrum 19-Dec-2005 20:26

Paulo,

Let me know if you want to flog the pipes - I have a '99 SSie and could be interested.

Andy

paologray 19-Dec-2005 20:27

its not his, its his friends. his friend is having some garage work done a his house s hes storing it there.

icarus 19-Dec-2005 20:30

It all sounds fishy to me.
Send me the reg number I'll have a look to see what its registered as.

If he's reluctant to give you the reg then walk away.

paologray 19-Dec-2005 20:57

okay, just waiting for the reg number now by sms...

nicks 20-Dec-2005 09:14

I'd be happy to take a look for you Paulo as i live reasonably close.

In fact i drove through Wombourne yesterday.

Also i think you will have problems getting the cans to fit. Carb and IE models are different.

May be interested to buy them off you though.

Let me know if you want a hand looking at the bike.

Sent you a U2U message with my number

chippyrock 20-Dec-2005 22:39

Service History!!!!

make sure the belts have been changed recently (within 2 years) by seeing a receipt with the reg number on. If this hasn't been done, you will have to do it straight away and that could be anywhere between £300 and £400.

Not to mention if it has been driven too long without a change, long term damage may have been done.

Make sure the bike is cold when you start it up. If its a bit smokey, make sure it clears after it warms up. If it stays smokey (blue smoke) the shims may be shot.

That pic definitely only has one caliper on it, as the small red cover is still visible, and only one brake hose.

If you have any doubts, follow your head and not your heart and walk away!!

paologray 21-Dec-2005 00:24

Im all nervous now about going to see it! youve put so much doubt in my head I dont think im gonna sleep tonight!
So...

1. ask for service history. I did ask but he said, im pretty sure he did, that he didnt have any...

2. make sure its cold on start up and look for smoke. a bit of blue when it starts is acceptable, but it if it smokes when warmed up- is that the shim problem or the piston rings?

Im a pretty competant DIY mechanic and can see me doing the belts straight away, but Im just so wound up by all this now!! either the guy is genuinely selling his bike, or hes bought it, realised the belts are gone and done some damage and is selling it on pronto!!

What is the best way to tell if the engine needs work? is it all in the start up/smoke test??

paul
thanks for all the help guys!

Derek 21-Dec-2005 10:02

Quote:

Originally posted by chippyrock
Service History!!!!

make sure the belts have been changed recently (within 2 years) by seeing a receipt with the reg number on. If this hasn't been done, you will have to do it straight away and that could be anywhere between £300 and £400.

Not to mention if it has been driven too long without a change, long term damage may have been done.

Make sure the bike is cold when you start it up. If its a bit smokey, make sure it clears after it warms up. If it stays smokey (blue smoke) the shims may be shot.

Service history is always a good thing to have.
Belts only cost around £30 the pair and take about 1/2 an hour to fit. Even a dealer shouldn't charge much for this. Not changing them won't do any damage - until they break!:o
If the bike runs smokey it is because of worn rings or worn valve stem seals. Rings are expensive, seals aren't but both need a strip down to replace so avoid it anyway.
Shims don't wear out but as the valves seats wear the clearances will alter. Too tight can damage the cams and/or rockers. Too loose will rattle and can also cause damage.
If the bike has some evidence of servicing and when the shims were last done, doesn't burn oil and doesn't rattle it is probably OK. The 2V engines are pretty bullet proof but if you have any doubt about any of these things look elsewhere.

paologray 21-Dec-2005 11:09

Derek, you've made me feel a bit better now! thanks for all the help guys, I wouldnt know where to start with these bikes. Ive had pretty much 2-strokes all my biking life so Im a bit stupid when it comes to these "new" 4 strokes things...

So if it doesnt smoke/rattle, its okay, but change the belts asap??

thanks
again guys!

Oh, heres my rgv250 with Sugaya race pipes... goes like a scalded cat!!

:o

paologray 21-Dec-2005 13:20

just been sent some new pictures!
as you can see, it is missing the front caliper


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