Cadwell 1st round...points or not.?
 

Has anyone had anyfeed back or has the decision been made !....is cadwell to be points or not.!

cheers

No confirmation yet but for 2006 we could have the opposite to 2005 where I score points and you lot don't.
As Cadwell Woodlands was a non points round in 2005 for me :P

Not heard anything Phil, so we were assuming the first lot of voting in October, was remaining the answer:)

hmmmmmm...it does make a difference to when i start dusting of the bike though...! if non points scoring then effectively I have another 4/5 weeks in which to book a warmer track day.....lol

:biaggi:

well, we've got one trackday booked for the end of Feb, and wont bother with doing Cadwell in March (too far/cold etc at this time of the year) unless Paul wants a practice, but Andy doesnt want to bother.

Will then get another trackday in before the first DD qualifying races start at Brands on St Georges day in April

C

U r talking like its non point scoring.?.......what do you know that we dont LOL.............huh...huh.... ;)

Phil - all we are assuming is that the vote from the first time around stands... which was overwhelmingly against starting till Brands in April, 18 - 2 if I recall correctly. Dont know anything else mate:(

ok fair enough.....

now just have to decide if i go or not now........as most wont i imagine......

:ninja:

Hmmmm if the decision does stand and I don't see why it won't if a vote has already been passed then I do wonder whether racing on a cold day for no points is worthwhile, probably not is 1st thought but it is still a days practice....

we had thought that Tony, but £90 ish for 2 races, plus timed, isnt as cheap as a trackday for same amount, with up to 5 or more sessions.
As far as I can see, it might be a good idea for complete novices wanting to experience the start grid for proper, but otherwise more tracktime can be had for the same money on a trackday

Just our thoughts tho

C:)

I am thinking the same TBH. Maybe as it's non points scoring we can have tyre warmers on LOL ;) ;)

:lol::lol::lol:

10/10 for being persistent:P

I can't see New Era being to pleased if there are only half a dozen on each of the two DD grids.

GOOD Point, Big picture time.:)

As the majority voted for non points scoring it should only be a minority few who don't want to race so grid numbers shouldn't be a worry :)

Race practice is race practice so I think we'll be doing it whatever the points :)

What’s this all about then?

I missed this, I thought it was a scoring round.

Who in their right mind would race for nothing at Caddwell in March?

I’ve got all me skiing gear out the loft now.

:o

The last e-mail I got on this was that it was still not certain. I was away when the voting took place so did not vote. I do not think (18-2) 20 in total is very good percentage of the total number racing. I would vote if the race is on as far as New Era are concerned then the race is on and it should be for points. Remember you all have the choice to drop one of the rounds this year. I know that one is att Assen but for me that's probably less hassle to get to than Cadwell and we are at Cadwell twice. We should have some clarity from those on high.

i think all the dates are very much up in the air now anyway. so this may also affect the cadwell date/format. i think we just need to wait till end of jan for clarification

I understand what you are saying Mike, & that the RC must clarify, but equally am puzzled that all the current 'numbers' racing at the end of 2005 were eligable to vote but only 20+ did for whatever reason (not everyone votes when things go out, so I understand).
When NE brought out the 'provisional' race programme for the 06 season, I know that the inclusion of the DD race in March was queried....as it had still been left in as a non-qual round.

Maybe we should wait for MW to comment?

C:)

Folks

You will need to be a little patient until late January with us, certainly until the next version of the calendar comes across from New Era. There is little or no point in trying to make a decision based on the current callendar that we have been advised is almost certainly going to be turned on its head.

The next version, due late January, should be close to what we will run with during the season.

You should all assume that you should have your machines ready for racing by the 1st of March 2006, we will not be starting prior to that in 2006!

[Edited on 19-12-2005 by ChrisBushell]

so its all change since the last email on 1/12/05 then Chris

to quote part of it:

"Representation has been made to the Race Committee that rather than start at the end of March, we should start the series at Brands Hatch in April........To make up for the change in the 1st Cadwell race now being non-points scoring, we are looking at making Snetterton a 2 day meeting with three races (one long and two short) over that weekend"

Bit of a difference from mid late April, to 1st March, particularly as there are only 7 qualifying rounds.

Any reason we now need to be ready to start so early?:puzzled:

Charlotte,

Regardless of when we actually start racing the 1st of March is a good date for everyone to be ready for the season, get some track days in or whatever.

If anyone of the 62 entrants wishes to be choose not to be ready for the 1st of March then it doesn't make any difference to me. However if they were to say decide not to be ready until the 3rd week in April and then the new callendar starts on the 2nd weekend in April, they cannot turn round and blame anyone other than themselves for not being ready.

Anyway the 1st of March has a nice ring to it and we know that we will not start before then!

Yeh we're going to Knockhill ;) ;) ;)

I wish to point out that the invasion of Scotland is still only a wild ambition at this point in time, which may well remain unfullfilled for some years!

what happened to Philip Island then:(

:P

Chris is correct that the dates for next year are all provisional and may change so being prepared for March 1st isn't a bad idea (although it seems a bit early in the year to me !) .... but just to explain a little more on the voting .... to date I understand that there was little response to Chris's last
invitation to revisit the question regarding making it a points scoring round, presumably because most people felt that commenting/voting the first time was enough!

New Era are aware that the intention behind putting it on as a
non-scoring round is to give those that want to (particularly the new entrants) a chance to race without making it 'compulsory'.

The idea was not to force novices or relatively inexperienced racers to race in the more than likely cold and wet conditions of Cadwell in March, on control tyres and in a limited seven meeting 'stepping stone' race series when starting in april was an equally viable option.

The New Era Cadwell event is going ahead with or without a full DD grid (or indeed any DD grid) so I would have thought that they would appreciate some entrants rather than none .... it's just that as it stands at the moment it will not be part of the championship although there are moves to try to make it a 'special' with some form of sponsorship to make it more appealing.

hope this helps to explain what's going on.

Thanks MW. If Cadwell is not pointrs scoring then I won't be there.
For the sake of those that are booking ferry crossings and accommodation, I take it that the Assen round is a fixed date and not one of those listed as "provisional"?

Seems to me that if a full grid's required, it'd need to be a scorer, so best make an Assen of it ;)

Now go and warm up that spreadsheet.

Tim

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't around when the vote was cast so missed the reasons.
I would have thought a better way would have been all UK rounds points scoring with the option to drop one from the final tally and have Assen as a fun race. This gives one UK race as non pressure as required. I'd have thought Assen was better as non championship as we have a mixed grid. On the mixed grid you will get 583 riders being held up in corners by 620's passing them on the straights, this makes for very frustrated riders especially as it's for points.
I know it's prob too late to change it and we will be doing them all regardless.

Hear, hear :mad:

my other slight concern regarding Assen is the number of entries, if i have read it right and we get more than a full grid them some are going into one of the other 2v races. This means that those riders will not score points at Assen and for them thro no fault of their own Assen becomes one of their non points scoring rounds. Have I read that right ?

thats about right CC:)

and about your suggestion that Assen to be non-points scoring, that is something we've been asking since the conception of the idea - even proposing it to be a prize round (cash!).

Not meaning to complain, but...:saint: the latest email says that entrants will be picked out of a hat for Assen should the round become over-subscribed and those that are left over to go into the race with the Dutch 2V bikes. Shouldn't it be done on a first come first served basis? Makes it easier for the club as people should get the entries back really fast. I'd be a bit annoyed to get everything sorted as quick as poss only to be on another grid. Just my pov :)

also I'd be annoyed if booking ferry & time off work now, and then find one or both bikes aint going:(
If one, means it costs the other rider more to go solo