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Got a 749 with full titanium system and power commander but was looking to see what was the next best value for money upgrade from the following:

1) Magnessium Wheels
2) Lightened Flywheel
3) Slipper Clutch
4) Wavy Brakes Discs

cheers

Anyone who has been in the same position or who has had any experience of what effect and benefits these and other mods that havent been mentioned would have please feel free to reply, happ new year to all!!

well if you use the bike on track a decent slipper clutch will make a big difference especially if you are already locking up the rear i have a stm evo and love it.

never have lighter wheels but will obviously make a difference to handling in particular.

from what i know i would go for the slipper

Cant see the lighter wheels helping, in fact for the road the expensive damage potential is higher particularly with magnesium.

I think the slipper is good for both track and road. Eliminating lock up. The potential of better metal in a slipper may also make it lighter, thus helping with the flywheel issue.

I dont see any benefit of wavey discs...........better pads maybe..and they are cheaper.

If your looking for more performance............i just know someone will say get a 999. and to be honest if you purchased all the above your in that sort of money territory anyway.

get a 999;) you asked:lol::lol:

seriously spend your money on tuition at a track.. 100 times better than any "bling" for going faster/safer !!!

:bouncy:

[Edited on 2-1-2006 by chris999]

Thanks for all your feedback but have any of you any of the above modifications to your bikes or are these just opinoins from what has been read?

From what i understand putting magnesium wheels on the bike will reduce the weight by 5kg but this is unsprung weight which equates to 30kgs on the bike so obvouisly this will make a difference to turn in and every other handling aspect and performance how can that not be a good thing??

Play around with the gearing, 2 or 3 teeth up on the rear, and pay to have the suspension set up professionally.


Then when you reach the limits of the bike start looking at expensive stuff like Mag wheels etc.

cheers carbon 749, i have done already what you have suggest and now want more!!! but before i start spending money i just wanted to check with people that had done the mods already t see which were most effective??

How much do you weigh? go on a diet!:D

Ive got the slipper, and the light weight wheels (999R)
Full 57mm termi and pc111R..............They all make a difference, but people still pass me on the track!

I ride a heavy pan thing on the road..........now there is a challenge, (doing it safely n all)

You have to put it in perspective. If you get summat cos youve got the money, or you just fancy it...well dont ask, or get put off by us lot!

If you are asking, then really a lot of it is just expense that you could do a track day, or have lessons....both on road and track.

Thats life........

Andy not sure if the 999r get the magnesium wheels from what i have look at they come with aluminium forged which are only about 1kg less than stock which arent the same as the magnessium wheels.

Obviously lessons whilst doing track days help and i always do these at the begining of the season and i definately agree i need to loss weight its an instant way of increasing performance,
ps i weigh 70kgs...i know what a fat boy!!!

70kgs..........you and me alike..........:lol::lol:

I know my wheels are the forged ones not mag...but they are lighter than the std 999.......and i cant tell!:D

yeah, bloody pain those mopeds aren't they ;)

Come in No74, your times up!:lol:

slipper,worth every penny. had carbon/mag wheels on the old 998s,slipper, before i px it i did a track day at donington,the bike was put back to standard. one thing i missed the most was the slipper more than anything.

this months Superbike magazine has an article on the pros and cons of carbon wheels, would be worth a read

is that the bike mag that praised the (old)999r a year or so ago.then now (999s) is not so good.its the same bike bar carbon fairing & wheels. strange:o

I have to check out the article, although I'm really only intersted in magnesium as I have had to many friends have problems with buckling and tire changing on the carbon wheels so not sure if the articule will help but its worth a read, cheers

dunno about the 999 contrdiction mate, different test riders, different opinions maybe. I don't pay much attention to subjective stuff like that, if I did I would be riding a CBR600RR just now, but they did do some measurement with the wheels. They did a pretty scientific study on tyres last year, which was interesting.

cheers

Derek

Hi

I have ridden lots of modern stuff including a gixer1000k3 on and off track, I run a 749R and feel the Mag wheels make the difference, although heavy (the bike not the wheels) compared to a lot of modern jap sports bikes it still feels lighter through the bends on the road or track.

Obviously the bikes set up makes a difference as do the tyres you use, I guess its a cost thing but do not forget you can always remove them and sell them on after you change bikes and recoup some money.


Slipper clutch I agree make a difference but in real world road riding the benifits are limited. Unlike the lighter wheels which you will feel the difference straight away and all the time (until of course you get used to them and forget you have them fitted).

Regards

DaveO

It's not the same bike though.... Does the S get Ti rods? plus the R gets a shorter stroke motor and close ratio box which the S doesn't from memory, same as the old 998S/996R arguement etc

That's cos you're slow fatty :P

Get you Mr Quickshifter!............worth 7-10 metres a up gearchange........x how many at jerez.....recon i could of been 100metres further up the track than you if only i had one of those.....!:P:P