749s stalling at lights
 

what is the views on 749s stalling at the lights
mine is an 04 model 6 months old
i.e. yes they all do it most of the time
yes they all do it now and again
it happens rarely
it never stalls at all

your feedback would be helpful


Mark

when I first got my 2005 749 it stalled every time I slowed down or came to a stop or was pulling away....very dangerous it was too! took it back to dealership who said it had been set up wrong at factory...it is much better now...but I just tend to leave the idle open a fraction to prevent.

Get it to a dealer as soon as you can. Mine has had the same problem and it still isn't fixed.......It went in in august!!

I think they are about to give up on it now!!!:devil::devil::mad::mad::mad:

Most seem to do it until they get there first dealer service.

A dealer should be able to set it up so that it will be fine. Mine still stalls, but, once in a blue moon. Tends to be while it is still cold and when I shut the throttle off for a junction or similar.

[Edited on 3-1-2006 by Carbon749]

after mine had been set up correctly by jhp it was fine. i still run it with a 2k tick over though.

Mine did it until I fitted a Termignoni exhaust. It's not done it since. I've read somewhere else on here that the dealers can change the cam timing to make it do it less.
Chris

Yep, it's all in the cam timing and setup. Mine started doing it last winter when the temperature dropped. A setup sorted it.

It started doing it again after having Termis fitted. I've had it serviced and the fuelling setup again but I haven't ridden it yet to try it out.

The '04 and '05 749S is a VERY fickle beast when it comes to this issue. The cam timing has to be spot on, as does the CO2 mix and the idle.

Ive noticed it tends to do it on the SLIGHTLY colder days. It runs perfect during the summer/spring months but when the temperature starts to drop, the stalling starts. Then I know it's time for the winter layup. :bouncy:

Had same problem with mine, so took it to the dealer who advised me that it was the cam timing, which, apparently, is a common problem with 999bp, 999s and 749s which is usually sorted at 1st service!

We can sort that out for you sir, just need the bike and to relieve you of around £130!!!!
Previous owner ran Termis so never had the problem, and never needed to have the timing reset, and as its an '03 wasn't covered by the warranty!
Anyhow, i paid the man and took comfort in the thought that it was no longer going to cut out at completely random intervals. Went to pick it up two days later and on the journey home..........yup! you guessed it.......pthaaaah! cut out at a roundabout and with all its Italian "character" wouldn't re start straight away!

Its been back and still does it, so, in my opinion, i was left with only two choices, and this is my advice to you:
1. Termis
2. PCIII

Have just finished fitting the Termis today so here's hoping no more embaressing or dangerous moments!

not wishing to dampen your spirits, but mine does it with the termis and chip.....fingers crossed yours is better!!

Yup, mine was doing it with Termis and DP chip before it went into the dealer...

All the above points are vaild, and 9 times out of ten cam timing and fuelling setup will sort it, but there have been occasions when the clutch has dragged and stalled the motor when rolling to a stop in gear.
Simple fix. Bleed the clutch master cylinder. Remove the cover and you'll see a small 6 or 7mm bleed bolt. Undo it, pull in the lever, lock it off. Do that a couple of times to be sure there's no air coming out.
Not a guaranteed solution, but if it is the problem, you can play with the cams and fuelling all you want, it'll still cut out if the clutch is dragging.

had the same, took it to a dealer and they said the 04 749s is badly set up needing a cam timing mod and possibly ecu. All fixed under warranty but it has cut out twice pulling up at junctions since it's been done (oct). where as before i'd just be sitting at the lights and it'd die (usually just as they turn green)

Same as mine, been in 3 times in last 6 months, getting better but still stalls the odd time. Got 12 month service in March so will see what it is like after that

Hi

This is a sore subject I have had problems with my 749R for a while which has resulted in a number of trips to the dealer (who still has the bike and has done for nearly 3 months).

It has been setup (injection, CO e.t.c).
They tryed to alter the timing alla 749s (made it worse).
New Injectors e.t.c

They are struggling, they have spoken to customers who race these bikes who told them they do it and the idle has to be set to 2000rpm. I for one think this is unsuitable for a road bike.

I have refused to except the bike stalling at low speed, I see this as a risk to myself and others.

If this cannot be corrected the bike has to go and Ducati will have to compensate me in some way after all I lost nearly 4 months riding the bike last year.

OK Rant over I wish all here a safe and happy new year.

Is Dave0749r indicative of all 749r or is this a one off :o:(

My 749r was stalling all the time and i put up with it for nearly a year before it went to jhp for its big service thay said thay had fixed it and it was down to cam timing but now my bike is ticking over at 2000rpm so now, your guess is as good as mine as to wot is the real cure for this proplem.

thanks for all the replies
mine is still being worked on hopefully it will be ok because it is the only problem with a superb bike

Mark

Hi

Well I have just been told the bike is fixed, all I know at this time is it needed the injection setting up (mechanically what ever that means) although this was done more than once months ago when I first reported the problem.

The after sales Regional Ducati rep actually went to the dealers and did this himself (oh and new plugs fitted).

I am waiting for it to be returned so I can test it myself I'll keep you posted.


Regards

DaveO

Be interesting to know how you got on, and also which dealer is doing the work...

believe it or not mine appears to be sorted, the dealer has tried harley davidson winter tickover idle boost, it is now like a different bike i.e. keeps ticking over. the addative just boosts the fuel octane, next step is to try super unleaded. the dealer Ducati Bristol have been superb in this quest as I have!!
will update how it goes

Mark

Speaking to Wilf at Moto Rapido the other day and this subject came up. Steve and Martin spent a day investigating this problem and they have a reliable fix - takes about an hour I'm told.

http://www.motorapido.co.uk/tuning%20shop.php

have used BP ultimate unleaded, bike ran superb, the tickover was at 1200 with the harley octane enhancer it went to 1350 using the BP ultimate, has not missed a beat so far.
Anybody else using super unleaded?


Mark

I may start using it for every other tankful this year - see what that's like.

I use Optimax mostly as the bike seems to run better on it. Didn't realise it might stop it stalling...

Hi Mark

I changed to Optimate to try and solve the stalling problem but this didn't work for me.

I had the bike returned to me a week last Monday they tell me the stalling problem is solved but I still have to tax her and check for myself.

Just waiting for the roads to clean up a bit (salt) then i'll take her to work and see how she is through the traffic.

Regards

DaveO

open up the lobe centers by 8 degrees. idle vacume increases then reset idle co for new cam timings and stalling fixed .

Guys

Lots of things have been said and fixes suggested but I for one remain unimpressed by Ducati and their in ability to resolve this problem.

I had my bike returned a few weekes ago after a prolonged period in the dealers being fixed. I took the opportunity to test ride the bike last Saturday when the weather was good and guess what it stalled again.

Enough is enough I have contacted the Ducati after sales rep that was involved from the start and the dealer and guess what no response.

Should I really have to endure another 4 months (on and off) of going back and forward to the dealer?

Has anybody here had a dispute resolved and how was it achived?

There was someone who had a new ECU from Ducati for something similar on their 749R, can't remember their name though. Might be worth a search and U2U?

Talk to Wilf on 01962 877998

Hi Henners

Just one question who is Wilf?

Regards

Wilfs one of the chaps at Motorapido...knows his stuff about most things...and what he don't know, Steve( other chappie there) does.

I completely agree with you DaveO, this cutting out problem used to plague the 748R range. It was always stated that due to it being a 'fickle beast' and a 'true race rep' that it will always have problems trickling along through traffic etc...but when the bike cuts out when approaching roundabouts/pulling away from junctions etc...thats just wrong and dangerous.

I never bought this 'put up with it' theory...I mean the bike should be fit for purpose, and if it keeps cutting out in dangerous places....THEN ITS NOT!

I now run one of the first 916SP's to come out, high comp, big valves, big exhaust, twin injectors, light flywheel blah blah blah...now if any bike is going to be fickle it should be mine, yet set-up properly, it runs as sweet as a nut around town etc...its a pussy cat...yet open her up and all hell breaks loose.

This is certainly something that I would push to the max with DUK if it were my bike...whats it going to take, someone getting rammed up the arse becasue their bike stalls approaching the lights, or hit from the side when their bike stalls on approaching a roundabout and they end up running on???

If DUK read this board...a response would be nice?



[Edited on 23-2-2006 by Harv748]

Hi HArv

I know where your coming from I also had one of the very first 748SP's back in 1995 (cost 11500GBP then), that bike also stalled but was fixed underwarrantly. This is my 4th Ducati and I for one feel let down, I too have had the its a race bike with lightened flywheel bull. Firstly its gotta be road worthy and safe to ride. I have contacted a legal adviser and will ask her to pursue this until it is resolved.

Regards

DaveO

Lol, I just come from Hungerford, where I was waiting to cross the road by a roundabout. Along came a Mille 1000 and a 749. Both stoped at the rounabout then off went the Mille followed by the CHUG, DOH stalled/ cut out 749, and it was not because he let the clutch out to much or anything I dont think. He was'nt to happy shaking his head halfway out in the road. Needs sorting.

Craig

have run the bike for a month on super unleaded (not bothered which make) the bike has ticked over well, not missed a beat, have done quite a few miles as well. hope it will be ok thro the summer, I hope so cause i'm looking forward to it

Mark

Mark

Glad to here its running well, still having problems with mine unfortunatly. I have recently received three options from DUK one of which I will pursue.

Regards

DaveO

Hear

Nice one Dave - care to elaborate???

ive had this problem in the past also, still does it once in a blue moon. Putting Termi's on seemed to solve it.

/ian