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Bungi 05-Jan-2006 17:47

hottrax
 
i dont think ive ever used these guys.

anyone here able to recomend them or give info on their experience,

i was looking at their members club, which for a one off fee gives you access to upto 45 trackdays in 2006. so was intereested to find out what theDSC memebers thought of the outfit??

dickieducati 05-Jan-2006 17:50

think i've used them once only. seem to remember them being fine. i recon other companies dates just usually suit me better. seem to go with focused events more often than not.

Bungi 05-Jan-2006 17:52

yes ive seen focused have some good dates for 2006, like when they are at the same curcuit for 2 consecutive days, which i reckon is well useful, however hottrx date are not out yet?!!?!

AK 05-Jan-2006 17:52

We're going to be using Hottrax in feb - on a Sunday, for the first time.
Usually use No Limits, and have used FE a couple of times too.

JPM 05-Jan-2006 17:55

Yep I've used them, no problems with them and the membership does look good, but it's gone up from £1000 to £1500 this year and they only allow so many weekend dates now which they previously didn't.

Technically you probably only need to do 15 dates at the bigger circuits and you break even, anymore is a bonus.

AK 05-Jan-2006 18:00

Try here for the hottrax dates, amongst others. Just click on the word bike in the trackdays blurb - and there is a full calendar each month

http://www.uktrackdays.co.uk/

C:)

[Edited on 5-1-2006 by AK and CK]

Bungi 05-Jan-2006 18:01

Quote:

Originally posted by JPM
Yep I've used them, no problems with them and the membership does look good, but it's gone up from £1000 to £1500 this year and they only allow so many weekend dates now which they previously didn't.

Technically you probably only need to do 15 dates at the bigger circuits and you break even, anymore is a bonus.

yes they have limited some of the access to weekend dates etc, and id agree id need to be doing at least 15 days to consider it, in the absence of their dates i cant decide if it suits me yet, and didnt want to apperar to be plugging their organisation.

Bungi 05-Jan-2006 18:04

Quote:

Originally posted by AK and CK
Try here for the hottrax dates, amongst others. Just click on the word bike in the trackdays blurb - and there is a full calendar each month

http://www.uktrackdays.co.uk/

C:)

[Edited on 5-1-2006 by AK and CK]


yes thanks im aware of this site and it only appears to have the dates upt o feb for uk.

as does hottrax website

although im sure they will be along and update it all soon

JPM 05-Jan-2006 18:06

Also I think it limits which dates/circuits you do, if you've got a max of 45 trackdays in a year with one company for a set fee paid up front, you're unlikely to do any other track days that year, so you might decide not to do a date which is really convenient because it's not with Hottrax and end up doing another one with Hottrax with some added inconvenience.

I know 2 people who did the membership with them last year and they both did around 40 dates each so it obviously paid dividends for them

Zimbo16 05-Jan-2006 20:27

I used Hottrax two or three times last year, had no problems, they were well run and well organised, no complaints.

Old Yella 05-Jan-2006 21:27

Me and three mates have signed up for this.

The 79 dates we have got a list of are already set but there are also additional dates to be added when confirmed so think they are holding back until they are final.

Weekend limt is 50% of weekend/bank holiday dates so aint too bad as there are 30 of these so just doing half the weekend dates gets you 15 dates so any more are a bonus.

Only ones that are not included are overseas and evening TD's but they are discounted.

We all used Hottrax a few times last year and found them really good to deal with and the set up and organisation was good.

I would put them on a par with No Limits, who I hold in high esteem, for their organisation, attitude, friendliness, set up etc and the only thing that tipped this for us was the dates allow us to do a lot more weekends than we could by just paying out individually for each event, so even if I dont do any weekdays, which of course I am going to do too, I will be saving money in the long run.

My thoughts only and I am not in any way connected with Hottrax.

Carbon749 05-Jan-2006 22:48

I did a hottrax day last summer at Donnington on the full GP circuit and it was great. The good weather and group of friends made the day.

The organisation was OK with very little hassle. Happy to let me use a Simpson on the track.

Issues were kept to a minimum and very little track time was lost.

Bungi 05-Jan-2006 23:27

Quote:

Originally posted by Old Yella
The 79 dates we have got a list of are already set but there are also additional dates to be added when confirmed so think they are holding back until they are final.



79 dates already sounds not so bad, do they use all tracks around the country equlayy or do they mainly use north/sout tracks?

i guess i just cant decide until i know what the dates/tracks are?

deej 05-Jan-2006 23:43

what do people make of no limits, you all seem to be giving it good marks on here but ive got friends who wont ever use them and a friend at a cirucit that wouldnt let me book a day with them for my own safety ?? whats the true score with them ??

NBs996 06-Jan-2006 00:07

Quote:

Originally posted by deej
what do people make of no limits, you all seem to be giving it good marks on here but ive got friends who wont ever use them and a friend at a cirucit that wouldnt let me book a day with them for my own safety ?? whats the true score with them ??

That's the first time i've ever heard them being doubted deej.
NL are top of the tree in my book, no probs or concerns at all with them.

deej 06-Jan-2006 00:25

like i said thats the impression i got from here but my mate said it was risky as theyre all a bit over the top and i'd probably end up in hospital

each to their own i suppose, i'll try anybody once

Nattyboy 06-Jan-2006 03:01

I normally use either hottrax or no limits...and there both very good...Steve plater used to show up for some hottrax dates as I think hes got some sort of tie in with them..he was really grateful when he saw me there so I could teach the old dog a few lines.....:lol:

Nat

Old Yella 06-Jan-2006 22:01

Quote:

Originally posted by deej
what do people make of no limits, you all seem to be giving it good marks on here but ive got friends who wont ever use them and a friend at a cirucit that wouldnt let me book a day with them for my own safety ?? whats the true score with them ??

I rate NL as one of the best TDO's I have used, shame they dont do the Riders club thing or I would have been comparing dates with Hottrax for a final decision.

Every one has a different outlook on TDO's but I have never seen NL have a bad day, on the contrary really.

Last one I did with them at Croft we were right royally bo!!ocked for all the offs that were happening on cold tyres.
5 red flags in three fast group sessions I think? WJB gathered all the group in the pits and told us all to cool down, it worked as we only had one more red all day and that was last lap last session of the day.

They also have their own rescue van which goes out to clear the track quickly so you dont lose time on track waiting for slow old bangers to come and collect the broken down or crashed bikes left after crashes/sessions.

They offer help and advice to all and have plenty of well versed instructors to help out on all their days, not just one or two like some other TDO's.

They also offer lots of advice to peeps on set up as I have experienced personally.

Try em, you wont be dissappointed :burn:

My opinions only obviously.

kev3 09-Jan-2006 21:49

Did about 15 days with them last year as a riders club member for my £1000. No real problems (not that can be blaimed on Hottrax anyway). Was tempted to join again this year but to be honest it was a struggle to find the time to do 15 days last year to make the £1500 upfront worthwhile you'd have to be looking at 20 days minimum. It does kinda tie you to them and you do find yourself missing attractive dates with other companies because your doing so many with Hottrax. They didn't do Rockingham or Pembrey last year but they seem to have dates at all the other major circuits.

yeti 12-Jan-2006 17:32

Quote:

Originally posted by deej
like i said thats the impression i got from here but my mate said it was risky as theyre all a bit over the top and i'd probably end up in hospital

each to their own i suppose, i'll try anybody once

B******X - (clue - rhymes with rollocks)

yeti 12-Jan-2006 17:47

One thing you might like to know about No Limits is that they look after the DSC!

For example, they are running a day at Oulton on 28th June. As it's Oulton and in the summer and full noise, I will absolutely guarantee it will be sold out a dozen times over.

No Limits are guaranteeing the DSC 40 places all with 10% discount. Given that the day will cost the genereal public £159, that's 600 odd quid they are gonna lose because they want to support us.

Think about that one :sing::sing:

Bungi 12-Jan-2006 17:59

thanx everyone i
ve had there dates though now and cant do enough of them to make it worthwhile joining the riders club, some good weekend date though. although im sure going to try em out this year as generally everyones comments are positive about the outfit.

thanks again

Lily 12-Jan-2006 22:50

Hottrax are pretty good in my view, helpful team when you call and good at the circuit.

Given a choice I would always pick No Limits or Hottrax.

WeeJohnyB 12-Jan-2006 23:45

Deej - have sent you a U2U, obviously rather not deal with the post above on a public website, but if you U2U me your mates name and the date he went on a day with No Limits to get the opinion he's given you, I could tell you exactly the number of off's, red flags and whether anyone went to hospital etc. plus the instructors, the person managing the gate, the weather, the track condition, the exact time each group got on track and maybe even the colour of socks I was wearing.

Have to say quite an incredible opinion to hold about a trackday company widely regarded as one of the best, if not the best in the industry. I've been instructing with them for three years and know the effort we put in to make it a safe and enjoyable day. Speak to some of the owners, management and marshalls next time you are at any of the tracks we go to and they'll give you an unbiased opinion, or simply ask anyone that has been with us from the DSC - by the way, DSC trackdays are run to No Limits Operating Standards. I'd put our record against anyones.

We try very hard, but we're always open to comments as we try to listen and raise the bar with every day we do. We appreciate you have a choice.

All the best, I look forward to seeing you on a trackday soon.

WeeJohnyB

deej 14-Jan-2006 21:04

wjb, i have replied to your u2u and will hopefully see you on track sometime this year as i hope to do a few more this year than last

yeti. it maybe rollocks to you but it was the only opinion i had heard which was from someone i trust, everyone has their own opinions and views which is why i was trying to find out what no-limits were like. being relatively new to riding at trackdays it pays to know what to expect in advance. i certainly didnt expect to upset people with my comments. last year i praised the ron haslam school and got shot to peices about that too, i enjoyed it and was only passing on my praises but because someone else had had a bad experience with them i was asked to withdraw my post.

i can see that they look after the dsc which is very good of them and as i said i will try to get to one of their days to experience it myself.


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