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Spen 20-Jan-2006 13:21

Can anybody confirm if this is true?
 
It's GOT to be a wind up...........



In Britain, making a defiant gesture toward an inanimate object is now a crime: Annoyed by defiant gesture, speed camera issues ticket to non-speeding driver.
A UK court this week severely penalized a motorist for the crime of showing disrespect to a mobile speed camera van. The device had photographed Sean Toehill, 21, driving 22 MPH in a 40 MPH zone but police became enraged when they noticed he had given the camera a "V-sign." Officers were dispatched to his home two days later to present charges which the Cupar Sheriff Court in Fife, Scotland upheld on Monday. The court suspended Toehill's right to drive for a year and imposed a £90 fine.

Ains. 20-Jan-2006 13:29

It was in the Daily Telegraph last Nov', and they did him for taking both hands of the steering wheel of his silver VW Polo; dangerous driving.

Ains.

Spen 20-Jan-2006 13:32

So there was more to it than the initial story suggests??

Still seems a bit harsh...........

rcgbob44 20-Jan-2006 13:33

So sad that this country has stooped to such pathetic levels of revenge.

Still its another way to screw road users to get more money !

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad

Just don`t get me started on rapists & kidy fidlers!

Ains. 20-Jan-2006 13:33

Sorry 11th Jan this year. Too much Yank dates out here.
See link below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...11/ixhome.html

Ains.

guest1 20-Jan-2006 13:39

Quote:

Originally posted by Ains.
Sorry 11th Jan this year. Too much Yank dates out here.
See link below:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...11/ixhome.html

Ains.
I've got a smiley spider if that'll cheer you up.
Or is it just that my smiley's showing a few spiders legs?
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MJS 20-Jan-2006 13:41

Nothing to stop someone in the passenger seat giving them the gesture then?? :D:D

guest1 20-Jan-2006 13:42

Strangely, in the case of the convicted motorist - no one seems to have picked up on the fact that he had his picture taken even though he wasn't speeding.
Are all cameras like that - i.e. every time I pass a camera I have my picture taken irrespective of my speed?

Ooohh-errrr, big brothers in town

dave996 20-Jan-2006 14:35

It said it was a camera van, I guess they record everything anyway

Spen 20-Jan-2006 16:46

Quote:

Originally posted by guest1
Strangely, in the case of the convicted motorist - no one seems to have picked up on the fact that he had his picture taken even though he wasn't speeding.
Are all cameras like that - i.e. every time I pass a camera I have my picture taken irrespective of my speed?

Ooohh-errrr, big brothers in town

VERY interesting point.........

YMFB 20-Jan-2006 18:30

What about the tractor driver who was fined for doing 85 mph, heard it on the news yesterday or the day before. I wonder some faceless uncivil servant who usually dishes out the fines has to write a letter of apology.

Martinp 20-Jan-2006 18:31

Always nice too know that the polcice are out catching the real criminals.:mad:

FiscusFish 20-Jan-2006 22:56

Quote:

Originally posted by rcgbob44
So sad that this country has stooped to such pathetic levels of revenge.


So what's changed ...? It's always been like that. "Officialdom" always get you back in one way or another.

Saying that when you look at the picture think what would happen if a kid (your/my kid perhaps) was crossing nearby or you'd turned right on your bike across his path and not quite made it...?. The **** is actually leaning across the other side of the car and looking sideways. You can also bet that once past the camera van he then turned laughing to his mates beside him and in the back. Reckon he's got any idea what's in front of him?

IMO what we need is more w@****s like this nicked and executed and that in itself will make our roads safer. I certainly don't agree with the "Safety Camera Partnership" methods of "Speed kills" but in this case they actually caught someone driving dangerously rather than just going 1mph over the posted limit...

Darren

philthy 20-Jan-2006 23:33

Bikers can be guilty of this too

Mate of mine was coming back from a ride with the boys and came to our local 'circuit' , I mean roundabout , above the local motorway junction ( 60 limit ) and weaved in and out of the traffic on a 'fast lap' at just under the speed limit while scraping stand/exhausts/footrests etc.

A few minutes later he was sat in the cop car which had been quietly following him round the circuit , watching the replay of the footage of his exploits on the onboard video screen.

The cop then said '' And this is where you did your little war dance '' and played back where my mate had punched his arms up and down in the air after his bit of fun.

The cop then gave him a telling off and sent him on his way. Mate did think of asking for a copy of the footage ......but decided against it....sensible chap:D

guest1 20-Jan-2006 23:41

FiscusFish - agree with your comments and I too wouldn't want that w****r driving behind me.
On catching real criminals - glad to see the local boobies doing their bit over last few weeks in Cheshire - specifically Warrington.
The ANPR (number plate recognition) van gets a result and three vehicles removed from road for having no insurance - one of them a 16year old on a scooter. All vehicles confiscated until driver provides licence and insurance proof.
I say confiscate and crush immediately.

Iconic944ss 20-Jan-2006 23:54

I'm with Fiscus on this one - I felt sorry for him at first but being stupid enough to take BOTH hands off the wheel after all the case of people eating / drinking at the wheel and being prosecuted just shows contempt.

Also, 22mph in a 40 mph zonesfrom a young guy in a car with his mates suggests to me that he might just have driving a bit faster before and knew the camera van was there!!!!

or am I being unjustly cynical?

F

andyb 21-Jan-2006 00:33

He does look like a fine upstanding member of the community...........oh no scottish, they are all like that sir!:lol::lol:

The safety camera vans video as well as taking photos...........
say cheese!:pig:

djb 21-Jan-2006 00:58

Ermmm, I have the misfortune of being Cupar born & bred. Trust me it'll be true...............

D:D

twpd 21-Jan-2006 01:37

Come on guys. Get things in perspective. They probably nailed him in revenge and for no other reason - it's just that he made it convenient for them.

How many of you have messed around with tapes, cd's, food, a bottled drink, lighting a cigarette etc whilst driving? Quite a few I'd wager. It's no different and he'd probably have still had his eyes on the road in front unlike those indulging in the above activities.

Monty 22-Jan-2006 01:27

Quote:

Originally posted by dave996
It said it was a camera van, I guess they record everything anyway

Scamera vans don't use still camera's-it's all video. The picture they send you (or show you) is a frame taken from the digital video-don't ask me how I know this.:mad:

There was a story recently about a lorry driver who was fined and given 5 points for driving too fast through some water and splashing a WPC who was helping another driver who had flooded their car. She said-he didn't slow down enough and soaked me-ahhhh didums-I bet we've all wanted to do that at one time or another.

John

John

Glyn 22-Jan-2006 10:44

what do you lot expect
it's now a police state

dont know what that means by the way
some bloke on the radio said it........must be true

Guido 22-Jan-2006 11:23

Whatever you say it can't be as bad as being repremanded for calling a police horse GAY.....(which was reported in the news this week)

Now that is completely barking and a sign of how this country is going to the dogs.........or gay horses!!!!!

marko 22-Jan-2006 11:46

one sunday Just before xmas on the A605 between thrapston and oundle
There was SIX coppers a police car and a Van waiting in a layby with a hand held camera nicking xmas shoppers:(. Thats a nice way to wish every one a Happy yule-tide and it's also nice to know the tax payers money is being well spent,

They would all be on doudle bubble:mad:

EMPI 22-Jan-2006 12:03

Quote:

Originally posted by djb
Ermmm, I have the misfortune of being Cupar born & bred. Trust me it'll be true...............

D:D

Im still here :mad: ,


but ill second that:P

I actually know sean from a while back, he's not actually that bad a guy, but yeah the kind of guy who would show off in front of others. But having to resit your test is a bit harsh....

Stu

Glyn 22-Jan-2006 12:09

did any one ask the horse
it may well be gay

any way being gay is the last thing its got to worry about
how would you like a copper sitting on you all day every day:D

andyb 22-Jan-2006 14:11

Quote:

Originally posted by marko
one sunday Just before xmas on the A605 between thrapston and oundle
There was SIX coppers a police car and a Van waiting in a layby with a hand held camera nicking xmas shoppers:(. Thats a nice way to wish every one a Happy yule-tide and it's also nice to know the tax payers money is being well spent,

They would all be on doudle bubble:mad:

I bet they wern't! I would say it was ANPR!

andyb 22-Jan-2006 14:11

Quote:

Originally posted by Glyn
did any one ask the horse
it may well be gay

any way being gay is the last thing its got to worry about
how would you like a copper sitting on you all day every day:D
Could be arranged!:pig:


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