Assen names out of hat
 

Any news on who is going to Assen, I thought the e-mails were going out today, but I won't pick mine up till I get to work tomorrow. Thoughts were that everyone would get on the gird but there may have been a last minute rush for places.

Mike

I think that everyone who entered is going - that's the basic answer I got when I asked.

Now we're getting another chance to vote on whether Cadwell's round in March should be points scoring it may have an effect on late entries to Assen. Last I saw there were enough spaces on the grid to cater for everyone that'd put their names on the thread posted here, don't forget that there's 600 DSC'ers that don't access this message board tho :smug:

Hold your horses...

WTF????

Firstly, didn't the first vote result in the majority wanting to start at Brands??

Secondly, my first point was so good, I don't need a second point!

Where did you hear about a 2nd vote Paul :puzzled:

:(

underground network ?:lol:

I've seen nothing of a vote on whether Brands is the first points scoring round.....

I'm sure those that want to race at Assen will get a place, assuming we haven't had another ten people join the series in the the last couple of weeks.

Think back to October time ish - I think we got an email to gather rider opinion.

Here is the result which MW emailed out on the 20th October...

3. Start date
Responses so far indicate a 2 to 1 majority (18 to 8) to start in April.
The briefing note issued with the rules did state that all dates were provisional and this rider’s poll result will be tabled to the race committee with a view to deferring the start date from March to April.

So who knows or when will we know if it is points scoring.

Oh, forgot there was also this [edited]...


...but I can't find the results of this in my emails.

That was a possibility, but now looks like it's no problem.

Assen is points scoring.

At the moment, Cadwell in March is not (hopefully it stays that way)

OK OK panic over, I've found it...

The latest/last 'update' from the RC reads as follows...


So I suppose nothing is confirmed yet.

We'll just have to wait and see what the 'new' RC come up with ;)

:)





















No points for Cadwell, I can't afford it and it's bound to be snowing!!! :lol:

Plus, it means doing Cadwell, Brands and Assen all within 6 weeks.

What's that? £1000++ to find in 6 weeks?

I don't earn that much in 6 weeks :lol:

no, more like 6 days. ;)

Possibility yes, but it's still a problem because Assen is a step too far for a domestic novice race series. I understand the argument about Cadwell being a bit chilly in March but why make a UK race on a UK National circuit non-points scoring when we COULD fill the whole grid and MAKE those of us that can afford it travel to Europe to fight over limited spots on the COMBINED grid? Sorry mate, I apprecitae what a golden opportunity it is to race at Assen, but I'd rather pay a few bob less and take me chances at Cadwell in a FULL grid :flame:

i assume the cadwell points/no points was sorted at the weekend ?

i guess we'll hear from the MT in due course.

Assen points yes, Cadwell points no.

I certainly wont be by then.......:(

Folks,

If you just availed yourself of a bit of patience you would know that you would find out in good time.

In fact the e-mail regarding all of the above should go out to the riders later on today.

Patience and racers, don’t be daft! ;)

Saturday’s meeting was nine hours long so forgive the MT for not responding sooner please, - most if not all are still glazed from it.

9 hours my arse! 30 mins chatting and 8+ eating and drinking! thats why you're all glazed over. ;)

we all know about these 'meetings' :D

Cadwell is a race meeting not a track day or a track jaunt..its a race and should be points...thats what racing is if not its a track day..........

:puzzled:

Assen points NO - Cadwell points YES !!!

Its obviously lost something in translation!!! ;)

cadwells too bloody unpredictable in march, its bloody miles for me, and we're going there later in the year anyway. there's no point, so no points. simple

i know we've been over all this before but its still fun!

stoke that fire.

so it could be 8 qualifying meetings now? :puzzled:
thought it was 6 + assen as an extra for this year
Think we'll wait for Montys email to come round before jumping to any more conclusions:)

no, lets all jump to conclusions and go over it all time and time again. :o

this is one area in general where i think being given too much info and input can be a bad thing. if the MT just came out at the end of jan and said this is the way it is we would just have to take it or leave it.

But its the same for everyone - why go if you can't race for points? You're right, weather, distance etc - it'll be a small grid if there are no points up for grabs.

And if Cadwell is a non-scoring round, it means there will be 3 scoring races at Snett - bit of a bugga if you can't make that weekend!!

:puzzled:

Agreed..but wether is 6 7 or 8 rounds..if its a race meeting with NE then it should be points.......!!! ITS A RACE !!! if not then dont have it in the calender, then you can choose a nice warm trackday to go on..or if its a little cold use grip warmers........ :frog:

[Edited on 24-1-2006 by fil2]

I seem to remember that the instrucions for the use of the Holy hand grenade were quite clear on the wrapper.

You shall count to 3, not 2 or 4, using a slow rythmical cadance and then throw at the enemy, whilst taking appropriate cover!

Just waiting for agreement on the wording of the note and it should be out this afternoon!

[Edited on 24-1-2006 by ChrisBushell]

is it going to be controversial?

will half the people be happy and the other half ****ed off?

does a bear **** in the woods?

does a one legged duck swim in a circle?

Big thanks to all people involved into that, you're doing a great job... :)

And what is a VOTE about if it's not to take a decision :puzzled:

exactly Tim...

myabe e should contact Dorna, it usually rains at Philip Island, they should take that out of championship....

wasn't Japan wet for the last 2 years... we should get that out too...

Assen has been wet 2 out of last 4.... that should DEFFO not be point scoring..


From a person not associated with DD, it's a bit of a laugh really....

you cannot have ALL racers at Assen in both classes... (ignoring whether they have chosen to go or not) but you can at Cadwell....

However the one that is impossible to have ALL riders at, is open to discussion from a points perspective..

It's a race series... we see 'Just shut up and race' all the time on here...

however.... maybe, 'Just shut up and race, long as it's warm and sunny' would be more apt.

Didn't take you long did it Weeksy. Don't give us your big hard racer story when you quit your short career champ! Harsh maybe, but definitely true.

We've already voted on this once, why are we revisiting it? It was a riders decision and IMO we shouldn't even be debating it anymore. This is ridiculous if you ask me.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not accepting the original riders decision and revisiting this?

i'm not giving you any stories at all TP.

Take me long.... believe me, i post a lot less in this section than sometimes i'd like to....

[Edited on 24-1-2006 by weeksy2]

I know what a vote is Tonio....thats not the point imho..the fact that some see cads as a warm up or a track day or a test day woteva u want to call it...suprises me....its a race weekend and should be points..!! is that not what racing is about..we will be the only Grid not racing for points.? in fact i cant think of any other race where thay race but dont score points.?......it just does not make sense to me....

its not the voting that puzzles me its the fact that we are voting on if a race meeting is points or not.???? now thats puzzling........:puzzled:

If you dont want it to be points and it is non points ....are you still going to go..??

because not everyone was given the oppotunity to vote tony and as it directly affects all the racers and as you can see its an emotional point .! dont you think we are all entitled to a say or vote...How many knew when they voted that if CADS is non points we get an extra race on the saturday at snetterton...? and that brings so many other questions over reliabilty of engines ..cant make that weeked u miss 3 races etc....

A vote was cast not including everyone and not with all the facts.............

Perhaps it will be all clear when you get the briefing note later, but really it boils down to when the season starts, that is what is the 1st race with New Era of the Year Cadwell or Brands?

To answer an earlier question, less than 1/3 of the entrants responded about this at the end of last year and a significant number were not asked. This time 100% of riders will be asked their opinions and have the option to vote. This is democracy in action.

Chris - I agree, all racers should be given the opportunity to vote (or not as they choose). The race season starts at the first points scoring round, be that Cadwell or Brands. There are other implications (Snett) if the season doesn't start until Brands.

As long as all of the facts are made available up front and a fair and true democratic voting process is applied, there can be no issues.
In truth I believe that we should not be voting, we should have been told up front when the season was starting (first points scoring round, not a dress rehearsal) and there would be no need for this debate now. However, it appears that an independant, non-democratic poll was previously issued that has forced this to the vote.

If an elected race committee (that has voting representation from both the MT and riders) decides that we will do X amount if races here, or Y amount of races there, then so be it!!!

All this scratching is making itch!!! ;) - I just wanna race - thank god I'm off to ride my bike!!! ;)

Tim

yeah me too im gagging to get out on my bike and see what i can do on it.

Is it ready? What have you had done?