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CL955 26-Jan-2006 20:38

\'92 851 on eBay
 
DK Spares (that well known purveyor of used Ducatis!!) is flogging an original looking 851. Not sure about the mileage.
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fred888 26-Jan-2006 21:32

I saw that!
Too good to be true??
Maybe they think that us Ducati freaks are so sad that we'll climb over ourselves in a frenzy to bid.

Martinp 26-Jan-2006 22:05

looks in good nik but note the tax disc out of date by 4 years?

misterpink 26-Jan-2006 22:46

but what about the 1990 851 SP (888) ????????? also on E-bay - (can't work out how to do the link thingy so you will have to look yourself.)

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 00:44

Quote:

Originally posted by misterpink
but what about the 1990 851 SP (888) ????????? also on E-bay - (can't work out how to do the link thingy so you will have to look yourself.)


THIS One, Also on Auto Trader

Charlie 27-Jan-2006 10:14

THIS One, Also on Auto Trader [/quote]



Well spotted Screwy……….. story on here about that one?

[Edited on 27-1-2006 by Charlie]

Douglas851 27-Jan-2006 11:55

If it is an SP2, where are the Ohlins forks/floating discs?
Also the mirrors are later ones, it should have the round ones for that age.

Douglas

mbracing748 27-Jan-2006 12:01

That one on Ebay is not a SP.

Like Douglas has already said wrong mirrors (they should be round). If it is a 888cc then it has been bored out - dual injectors came later if my memory serves me right.

If it was a SP it should have a plaque on the head stock. Most early single seaters where just single seaters....

Nice looker BUT not a SP.

[Edited on 27-1-2006 by mbracing748]

weeveetwin 27-Jan-2006 15:00

Its chassis number (ZDM85153-000700) relates to an 851. An SP will be 888cc and have an 'S' in the chassis number (ZDM888S*******)

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 15:06

Quote:

Originally posted by Charlie
THIS One, Also on Auto Trader



Well spotted Screwy……….. story on here about that one?

[Edited on 27-1-2006 by Charlie] [/quote]

Yep thats the one , I dont know why but it kind of rankles that he picked a few brains then went of and put it up for sale , But thats probably just me :D

Is it an SP ? Not a clue as info on the early SP is thin on the ground . My 89 851 Monoposto is an 888 but I,m pretty sure its just had an engine transplant rather than one of the 100 or so SP,s made iirc for an Italian home race series . I,m not even sure the first SP,s had a plate on the top yolk , Any experts about able to give a definative description of the SP1 ?

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 15:13

Quote:

Originally posted by weeveetwin
Its chassis number (ZDM85153-000700) relates to an 851. An SP will be 888cc and have an 'S' in the chassis number (ZDM888S*******)

I,m pretty sure he,s misread his chassis number and it should read ZDM851S3-000700 As mine is ZDM851S3-0003**

weeveetwin 27-Jan-2006 15:16

There was no such thing as an SP (1). The first bike was just an SP - and it was 851cc. It was basically a modified Strada, with changes to valve diameter and timing. The rest of the bike was the same as the Strada. The first true SP was the SP2 and it was 888cc. Chassis number should be ZDM888S on a true SP.

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 15:33

Sounds about right to me, the only reference material I can lay my hands on atm is Mick Walkers Ducati 4 valve twins where theres scant mention of the SP (btw the use of SP1 is just to stop the issue getting clouded with people asking "but which SP ?" :) ) and Ian Falloons Ducati desmoquattro performance hand book .

Mick Walker briefly mentions it and says sod all except it was an 888 and Ian Falloon briefly mentions it but thats about it .

Thanks for the heads up on the chassis number , I now have no niggling doubts as to my bike (Not that I did ) but now know its what I always thought it was , A 1989 851 Monoposto with an 888 engine :)

philthy 27-Jan-2006 15:36

Quote:

Originally posted by Screwy
Quote:

Originally posted by weeveetwin
Its chassis number (ZDM85153-000700) relates to an 851. An SP will be 888cc and have an 'S' in the chassis number (ZDM888S*******)

I,m pretty sure he,s misread his chassis number and it should read ZDM851S3-000700 As mine is ZDM851S3-0003**

Hi screwy..... long time no speak

Thats an early one you've got there!

Mine was a private import strada - supposed to be an 89 model with alloy tank and the number finishes with 1856 ( from memory) but I thought only 500 were made in 1989?

By the way - I think someone on here recently said that only sp models had a welded joint in the top frame, where it kinks around the front of the petrol tank. I thought all the early 851 models had the weld at this point :puzzled:

Phil

mbracing748 27-Jan-2006 15:51

Found a ducati's website info about 851's. 888cc were made in 1990 due to WSB Homo. Earlier models were just 851 cc single seat's.

As per my 1989 851, the earlier 851's ran a different crack spindle for the sprag clutch. needed to purchase a monster one.

http://www.mbracing.pwp.blueyonder.c...otorcycle.html.
:roll:


£2500 - £3000 for the adverstised bike not £6k.

PS I'm still wanting a 851 someone most have one for sale below £3200

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 15:55

Lo Phil m8 , Not to sure about numbers produced in 89 , I,m sure I saw something on the net saying how many over the years but can't find it now , and Ive read the same somewhere about the frametubes but don't think its right as mine has the welded tubes also and mines definately a Strada .

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 15:59

Quote:

Originally posted by mbracing748
PS I'm still wanting a 851 someone most have one for sale below £3200

Get thee behind me satan :P

mbracing748 27-Jan-2006 16:04

Ere Screwy - got offered a 851 for £2500 :P HOWEVER it's in scotland :devil:

Screwy 27-Jan-2006 16:25

Paid £2500 for mine as it happens ,17000 on the clock and came with all its MOT,s but they never mentioned it had an 888 engine fitted at some stage :puzzled: and the log book didnt have the engine number recorded , It was only whilst cleaning it with the fairing off that I noticed its number was ZDM888 :o

mbracing748 27-Jan-2006 16:46

There's nothing like a small surprise....... even funnier if is was a 916 engine.:D

weeveetwin 01-Feb-2006 22:36

I see this 'SP' didn't reach its reserve - even with 30 bidders. Maybe people in the know smelled a rat?

mbracing748 02-Feb-2006 10:11

On the up side, if someone did by this bike from this dealer he has a very stronge case of getting money back due to the fact it isn't a SP. Hmmm Like I did with Daytona because they sold me a bike that it wasn't..:sing:

[Edited on 2-2-2006 by mbracing748]

Screwy 02-Feb-2006 19:30

The same bike was on the auto trader site listed at £6999.00 but he,s dropped it to £4.500 now :D

Actually Just spotted an SP3 at powersport for £6999.00 if anyones interested ,Only down the road from me if anyone wants me to pop in and check it out ;)


Actually looking at the pictures is it not an SP2 ???




[Edited on 2-2-2006 by Screwy]

mbracing748 03-Feb-2006 11:06

:rolleye: £4,500 still not worth it... :D


Now that's a real bike..... :P

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by mbracing748]


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