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andyb 03-Feb-2006 11:57

Well, here goes...............
 
Im just about to start to strip the frame off my 999 with the intention of powder coating it red................plus adding a few other goodies! wish me luck................:lol:

Harv748 03-Feb-2006 12:00

:bouncy:...this thread should be fun to watch...

Anyone for a sweepstake on how long before:

How do I.. or...whats this bit...:lol:

Sorry mate, good luck!

skidlids 03-Feb-2006 12:02

Ahouldn't be to much of a problem Andy, the bike isn't that old so you shouldn't have to many problems with things like removing the swingarm pivot.
Red frames seem to be the in thing at the moment, I had 3 delivered back to my house from the powder coaters a couple of weeks ago. Must point out only one was mine the other 2 belong to Senna3

AK 03-Feb-2006 12:03

team colours this year Kev?:puzzled:

good luck Andy, if you need help. i'm sure I can come up with the soothing powers of vino or chocky for you:P

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by AK and CK]

JPM 03-Feb-2006 12:04

Don't think it will be that bad to be honest... do you?

Be interesting to see how it goes, hope you're going to keep a photo diary and regular updates

skidlids 03-Feb-2006 12:15

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Originally posted by AK and CK
team colours this year Kev?:puzzled:
[Edited on 3-2-2006 by AK and CK]

Not unless I'm allowed to enter a 748 as my DD bike is still untouched from last year, still hasn't made it out of the van since its return from Cadwell.

Andy I hear that Vino makes a good release agent for any seized bolts :lol:

andyb 03-Feb-2006 12:18

I worked out that having the luxury (and undoubted professional quality) of a dealer doing this is equal to quite a large piece of bling! Besides as most say, it should be fun....................wheres that wine???:lol:

philthy 03-Feb-2006 12:23

Andy

If you've got a budget, then double it , because once you start I can guarantee that you will find youself saying '' Well....while it's apart I may as well........''

I know , I've been there.

:D

electricsheep 03-Feb-2006 12:27

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Originally posted by philthy
Andy

If you've got a budget, then double it , because once you start I can guarantee that you will find youself saying '' Well....while it's apart I may as well........''

I know , I've been there.

:D

new type swinging arm for instance :devil:

khu996 03-Feb-2006 13:31

Will this be the first documented 999R stripdown in the DSC? :D

Look forward to seeing plenty of pics and reading some (funny) stories.

Carbon749 03-Feb-2006 13:37

Andy. Stripped my brand new Feb 2003 749s to a bare frame after riding it for 1 1/2 mile, this was when they had only just been launched and were still quite rare. Nothing wrong with the bike, just that my left leg was in plaster for 12 weeks, gear changes were difficult and I did not want to just sit and look at the bike.

Since then I have done my mates 999s.

Intention on both bikes was to get the frames red and add the additional frame rail.

By no means an expert, but, having done 2 I have some expierence.

If you need any advise please feel free to ask.

There are a couple of tricks that will help the whole job go quicker.

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by Carbon749]

andyb 03-Feb-2006 14:05

Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
Andy. Stripped my brand new Feb 2003 749s to a bare frame after riding it for 1 1/2 mile, this was when they had only just been launched and were still quite rare. Nothing wrong with the bike, just that my left leg was in plaster for 12 weeks, gear changes were difficult and I did not want to just sit and look at the bike.

Since then I have done my mates 999s.

Intention on both bikes was to get the frames red and add the additional frame rail.

By no means an expert, but, having done 2 I have some expierence.

If you need any advise please feel free to ask.

There are a couple of tricks that will help the whole job go quicker.

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by Carbon749]

tell me more............like the two bolts that hold the ign switch to get the airbox out?;)

JPM 03-Feb-2006 14:12

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Originally posted by electricsheep
Quote:

Originally posted by philthy
Andy

If you've got a budget, then double it , because once you start I can guarantee that you will find youself saying '' Well....while it's apart I may as well........''

I know , I've been there.

:D

new type swinging arm for instance :devil:

Think that's already on the project plan..... ;)

Col996s 03-Feb-2006 14:14

Good luck Andy. It must be quite tempting to say whilst it's apart I'll just change this and this and this.........

andyb 03-Feb-2006 15:32

Ooooooh nearly there.........:lol::lol: piccies to follow...

JPM 03-Feb-2006 15:34

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Originally posted by andyb
Ooooooh nearly there.........:lol::lol: piccies to follow...

So fairing off then? :P

Carbon749 03-Feb-2006 16:07

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Originally posted by Carbon749


tell me more............like the two bolts that hold the ign switch to get the airbox out?;) [/quote]

Not sure what you mean about that. You have to remove the plastic shroud from the ignition switch and disconnect the sensor. There then should be the bolts for the ignition barrel. They may be the shear off type and have no bolts heads ... mole grips work well on these.

The whole airbox, throttle cables etc are a b*****d to get off. Sorry, loads of swearing and skinned knuckles.

One top tip would the be the swing arm / engine part. Cut a piece of tube, I used 19mm dia hanging rail, to the right length to sit between the frame rails without locating in the frame. Use the tube to knock out the swing arm pivot, keeps the engine and swing arm as one unit and lets you lift the frame off. You can them wheel the assy' around and remove the chain, rear suspension, swing arm at your leisure.

Takes loads of pic's for the wiring loom as it wraps around the head stock, the location of the loom connectors around the battery and on the frame rails above. Note how the very large loom connector on the left of the frame works ... you can spend ages trying to line it all back up later.

Clearly identify the Neutral switch connector on the loom, looks just like another one (rear brake I think) and you can mix them up.

Take pic's of the clutch hose and were it runs from lever to cylinder.

Front end is kind of obvious, but, locate the locking bolt on the right of the head stock frame tube that locates the head depending upon which head angle you select. Take the retaining circlip out and remove the bolt / washer. Loosen the pinch bolts on the head tube. Remove the top yoke, and the whole front end will lower out. If you slide the left clip on off the fork top you can leave it connected to the clutch line. You can leave the front brakes, lines etc and take it all out as one unit.

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by Carbon749] [/quote]

[Edited on 3-2-2006 by Carbon749]

andyb 03-Feb-2006 16:49

off to jhp tomorrow................

Rattler 03-Feb-2006 16:56

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Originally posted by andyb
off to jhp tomorrow................

There's not much to it, it should only cost a few quid to get painted - ------ yeh right!!!! ;)

Carbon749 03-Feb-2006 17:12

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Originally posted by andyb
off to jhp tomorrow................

After listening to other tales of woe on here, make sure the frame number is well masked before it's blasted and powder coated :o

andyb 03-Feb-2006 17:21

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Originally posted by Carbon749
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
off to jhp tomorrow................

After listening to other tales of woe on here, make sure the frame number is well masked before it's blasted and powder coated :o

I couldnt get the right red locally to me! I know john sampled a lot of colours to get the right red..........thatll do for me. I know they mask the frame number as well so thatll be ok!

andyb 03-Feb-2006 17:22

Didnt take that long to strip..........and not a drop of fluid spilt other than the clutch slave.....fantastic these bikes aint they!

butch890 03-Feb-2006 17:28

couldnt help notice from the picture that yours is one of the 1st 998 bastidised frames 999r,s !:frog:
Whilst its apart try to find a proper 999 frame,you know it makes sense!:D
Butch

JPM 03-Feb-2006 18:02

And here's one I prepared earlier..... :lol:

duc daz 03-Feb-2006 22:48

rather you than me andy :sing:

pedro 03-Feb-2006 22:49

amazing how the frame floats over the magic blue rug.:D i could do with a few to sell on?

andyb 04-Feb-2006 09:09

Quote:

Originally posted by butch890
couldnt help notice from the picture that yours is one of the 1st 998 bastidised frames 999r,s !:frog:
Whilst its apart try to find a proper 999 frame,you know it makes sense!:D
Butch

ok mate...........I was going to spend a couple or three grand on the engine but then i noticed the old shagger came with 148 bhp................fancy a go on a powerful one?:puzzled:

butch890 04-Feb-2006 09:14

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Originally posted by andyb
Quote:

Originally posted by butch890
couldnt help notice from the picture that yours is one of the 1st 998 bastidised frames 999r,s !:frog:
Whilst its apart try to find a proper 999 frame,you know it makes sense!:D
Butch

ok mate...........I was going to spend a couple or three grand on the engine but then i noticed the old shagger came with 148 bhp................fancy a go on a powerful one?:puzzled:

sorry mate ,way to much for me,that,l be a real mans bike then!:frog:
butch

andyb 04-Feb-2006 09:16

You want a real man then,.........ooh er!:lol::lol::lol:

everton 04-Feb-2006 10:59

Can we take it that from your first post to the final frame picture - 5 hours approx - you completely stripped the bike down to the frame or had you done much prep work before you started?

andyb 04-Feb-2006 12:57

Yup, i posted, then went out and took the fairings off..and the rest is history!

:smug:

To be honest there aint much to take the frame from the rest., and as i said the only fluid line to break is the clutch, apart from a bleed pipe to the top of the radiator and you then replace that back.
Just the top yolk then the 3 bolts on the headstock releases the whole front end, the 3 engine mounts inc the swing arm pivot. Yes there are several wire connectors, but they are fairley obvious!

God knows how it goes back together though.......

:lol:

everton 04-Feb-2006 13:14

Thanks ... I'm very interested to see how you get on with this. Are you replacing the swing arm, as others intimate, and if so are there any issues? Are you going for the 04-on swing arm or something more bling?

On the one hand it's exciting and also irritating that powder-coating the frame and upgrading the swing arm etc brings the bike some way towards the 04 spec. I'm sure you're adding your own special and personal bits so it'll be good to see it done.

I fancy an uprated master slave cylinder and a couple of little bits like an STM oil breather

When's your target completion date?

andyb 04-Feb-2006 14:02

When you see one of these, you have just kinda got to.........

Carbon749 04-Feb-2006 14:07

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Originally posted by andyb
When you see one of these, you have just kinda got to.........

Been quite a few comments on here about the newer arm will fit, but, the suspension linkage is different and will not work 100% .... I think JPM knows more about this.

andyb 04-Feb-2006 14:11

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Originally posted by Carbon749
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
When you see one of these, you have just kinda got to.........

Been quite a few comments on here about the newer arm will fit, but, the suspension linkage is different and will not work 100% .... I think JPM knows more about this.

Bit of a myth mate. The kit thats in that picture is all you need, to change to a later arm (dependant on type of exhaust of course) you may need to alter the brake pipe as well to make it sit better, what else you choose to change is down to personal preference! ;)

Carbon749 04-Feb-2006 14:14

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Originally posted by andyb
Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
When you see one of these, you have just kinda got to.........

Been quite a few comments on here about the newer arm will fit, but, the suspension linkage is different and will not work 100% .... I think JPM knows more about this.

Bit of a myth mate. The kit thats in that picture is all you need, to change to a later arm (dependant on type of exhaust of course) you may need to alter the brake pipe as well to make it sit better, what else you choose to change is down to personal preference! ;)

I sit corrected. It is worth while doing as the newer arm does look much better.

andyb 04-Feb-2006 14:17

Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
Quote:

Originally posted by Carbon749
Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
When you see one of these, you have just kinda got to.........

Been quite a few comments on here about the newer arm will fit, but, the suspension linkage is different and will not work 100% .... I think JPM knows more about this.

Bit of a myth mate. The kit thats in that picture is all you need, to change to a later arm (dependant on type of exhaust of course) you may need to alter the brake pipe as well to make it sit better, what else you choose to change is down to personal preference! ;)

I sit corrected. It is worth while doing as the newer arm does look much better.

I u2u'd you.

everton 04-Feb-2006 21:29

Thanks for the U2Us Andy.

I'm really excited to see how you get on with this project.

andyb 04-Feb-2006 21:46

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Originally posted by everton
Thanks for the U2Us Andy.

I'm really excited to see how you get on with this project.

If you were interested in how long it took me to strip mine, i recon doing it a second time would be even less...............

Ive got my list of bits now for my ' upgrade'............and the cost!!:o

Jon 04-Feb-2006 21:48

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
Im just about to start to strip the frame off my 999 with the intention of powder coating it red................plus adding a few other goodies! wish me luck................:lol:

Andy is the paintwork that crap that it need re-painting already:D


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