Any RGV 250 Experts here??
 

I am looking to get an RGV 250 Track day bike. What do I look for when going to get one?? How robust are they?
I also VFR 400 or ZXR 400 which are 2 others im thinking of.
Any advise or other recomendations welcome.

Not an expert on RGV's. It's certainly different to the 400's you mention. The ZXR400 is very popular with club racers, so there are certainly plenty of spares available. If you're after a track only bike, I'd look at a well sorted 400 from a racer that's hanging up his leathers. Have a look at some of the club boards like Derby-Phoenix, Bemsee, NG, etc. You should be able to pick up a good one with plenty of spares for about £2k. They are certainly great fun around a track.

Hello Mr C

A guy at work bought rgv250, althought it was sitting around for a number of years in a garage and although in good nick, he has had endless problems with the carbs, and trying to get it ticking over correctly, and as a result has not got it running for over a year. (But I think its more to do wil time to work on it) But he said something about Stan Stevens is your man for tunning. And he has bought and sold bits on this site. maybe of some use.

http://www.rgv250.co.uk/

good luck

regards

TopiToo

Ive just noticed the "Technical Problems Help" section of that RGV forum has 2571 topics Apart from the "General Chit chat" section its 5 times more than any other section............. Erm i'll take the ZXR Please!!!!

Hello Mr C

wise move IMHO

regards

TopiToo

I just want something fun and cheap.. bit like the women I go out with!!!!! (Thank God she will never read this)

Although ive always loved the look of the RGV.

I had a padjetts kitted RGV, same spec as whitam's minus the dry clutch, 72 bhp.

theres plenty to go wrong, at some point the powervalves will drop into the barrel, can range from new valves to new engine.

a lot have been run on chip fat, youll be lucky to find a gud en , bearing in mind how old the are now

[Edited on 4-2-2006 by Real McCoy]

I was watching this one on ebay just recently >
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

The VJ22 model is the one to have. This one was particularly good in my opinion. Something similar would be worthy track day material.

I had 2, and im a big big fan..bit if you were adamant on a lightweight stroker i'd point you towards an RS Aprilia as its much less likely to have been club raced.

I got caught out on my second RGV despite looking over it ! (mint bodywork should have been a giveaway but I was young, dumb and full of c** to quote that guy in 'point break'

The 'M' RGV (which youd probably look at - banana swingarm, stacked pipes etc) also had the temperemental 3 stage power valves I think - mine were seizing and it wasnt a cheap fix. Ended up putting the older 2 stage valves on from the earlier bike...great fun :devil: - It was like a bloody on/off switch when it hit the pwer band !!!

Nat

Ive got one, like Nat says mental when they are sorted (need a top end rebuild every 10000).

Loads of spares around and a lot more involving than a 400.

Mate, a RGV would be a great fun track bike but i think a 400 would be cheaper and as quick if not quicker up top. I love my VJ23 (the rare jap only SP model) but i know what its good at and where a 400 would be better.
If budget is the key then NC30 is a good bet. ZXR's are the quickest but tend to go pop if tuned and head gaskets can be fun. Not saying NC30's arn't perfect but very reliable if difficult and expensive to tune.
have a look at www.rgv250.co.uk but dont dare mention a diesel on there unless you like being shot down in flames. I love strokers but they have had thier day and i am not one for rose tinted specs even although i still say my RC30 is the best bike i have ever ridden period

You might also try a CBR400 NC29, very reliable, best midrange of most 400`s, ( I know, I raced one) the only thing you must do is stick a taller shock in it, one from a CBR600 goes straight in, just not sure wich model:(.
Pic is from roadstock race at mallory:D





Chris.:burn:

why not go for aprilla rs250 same engine i have one as my track bike great fun

Mr C, get a vfr or rvf solid as a rock, reliable FAF and plenty of bits still out there...............

[Edited on 5-2-2006 by andyb]

playing.saves getting the duke wet...

I'm not an expert but an RGV is like any other bike, it needs looking after.
A good one will be fine but you need to get a good one.
Why worry about it being an ex race bike if you want it for track use? An ex race bike is the best way to get one which is fully sorted and is hence less likely to go pop.
The RS Aprilia uses the same engine and costs more, GSXR and FZR 400's are every bit as unreliable as an RGV, CBR is SLOW but handles beaytifully, VFR is a little quicker but not as easy to ride, RVF is no quicker than a VFR, it's heavier and way more expensive and the ZXR is the racers choice, also the fastest.
I see no good reason to buy a 400 over a 250 stroker but bear in mind that a 250 takes a real good rider to get the best from it, and you will have to be prepared to look after it properly.
Check out www.rgv250.co.uk and www.400.greybike.co.uk for all the good advice you could possibly want.
HTH,
Jen.

[Edited on 6-2-2006 by desmojen]

Meant to mention this before: If your heart is set on a stroker, I'd go for one of the non-road bike ones, like a Yamaha TZ 250 or Honda RS250. Proper bikes these as Monty will attest to. The Yamaha's are not hard to find at decent money.

Thanks Felix, you saved me flaming you.:D
If you want a stroker get an early TZ250, they are built for the track, bits are easy to get and they are easy to maintain yourself. Pistons and rings will do 500 miles easy on trackdays, cranks will do 1500. A top end rebuild will cost £140 for pistons, rings, little ends, and pins, takes about 45 minutes to do if you aren't in a hurry-lots quicker if you are. They crash very well, don't break unless you hit them VERY hard, and will show most 600's the way round. My TZ has been known to show R1's and Mille 'R's the way round, and I'm an old duffer. The Honda RS250 is another good one but there are not so many early ones about. My TZ cost me £2000 3 years ago complete with spare wheels and loads of bits-oh and I'm not selling.;)

John

Shame on you, CBR400 NC29 is not SLOW, I admit it is hardley tuneable due to it having gear driven cams & that means not being able to raise the compression effectifly. but I lapped mallory ( before Edwinas ) with my bike in roadstock trim, ie lights indicators etc, with a best time of 57.0 secs.
And which bike has won more honours at the TT in the 400 class than any other, Honda CBR400 NC29:D



Chris.:burn:

Had an RGV250 L and used to rebuild it every 1,000 miles due to those damn power valves dropping into the barrel and making contact with the pistons! It got to the point where I was on first name terms with Stan Stephens...

The problem was that the exhaust valves used to coke, then they'd start to stick, then they'd simply break up (especially the earlier multi-part ones) and drop into the barrel. I read somewhere that there is now a modification to the valves to stop this, and it certainly sounded worth doing. Following on from the sticky valves you end up with burnt out actuator motors, stretched cables, ovaled pulleys, etc, etc. Not cheap to replace!

They were great bikes, handled well and wicked 2-stroke power curve on them. But having ridden the RVG250 and the RVF400 back to back (and also side by side up the dual carriageway!) the RVF wins it every time.

Agreed with Antonye, the valves on the normal RGV's can be a concern. and at around £500 for a set they aint cheap either. The RVF is heavier but great fun and the sound of a V4 howling through a good system is addictive. Pound for pound the little NC30 is no less of a bike and half the money so long as you can live without USD forks. Spend your money on a nice NC30 and put the extra dosh towards getting the suspention sorted and carve your way to the front on a budget

You need Suzuki kit valves, there a lot stronger and dont fall to pieces , but they aint cheap