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ali 07-Feb-2006 11:49

Race laps in your head
 
So how many race laps do you do per week in your head? I'm talking full laps of any track you've TD'd or raced on.

I find it pretty difficult as my mind wanders in various sections, and my heart races to 170bpm after about 10 secs, but it's a great way to bring back the rush of racing while plodding along in the gym.

Ali

ericthered40 07-Feb-2006 11:54

I tried that but my mind just drifts strait back on to F****ing funny thing the mind :bouncy:

ali 07-Feb-2006 11:56

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Originally posted by ericthered40
I tried that but my mind just drifts strait back on to F****ing funny thing the mind :bouncy:

:lol: It's true, the male mind thinks of sex every seven seconds (probably...). It's amazing we make it round the track at all! :lol:

NBs996 07-Feb-2006 11:57

You racer types are a strange breed!

ericthered40 07-Feb-2006 12:00

See there you go, you said make it round the track and Bingo.:lol:

TP 07-Feb-2006 12:15

:lol:

I often do this at the gym or whatever. I went to bed the other night having a battle around Cadwell! Sad I know.

I'll do a few laps a week easy - a week seems like such a long time these days.

NBs996 07-Feb-2006 12:21

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Originally posted by TP

I'll do a few laps a week easy - a week seems like such a long time these days.

A few laps a week?
I knew you weren't very quick... but dude!

TP 07-Feb-2006 12:23

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Originally posted by NBs996
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Originally posted by TP

I'll do a few laps a week easy - a week seems like such a long time these days.

A few laps a week?
I knew you weren't very quick... but dude!

:lol:

I've gotten slower!

fil2 07-Feb-2006 12:26

i seem to start at cadwell then jump to castle coombe then to snetterton i find it hard to do one complete lap in my mind.............................

the starts.............they are the killer......unless u got launch control as an added extra huh Nick.......................:rodent:

ali 07-Feb-2006 12:30

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Originally posted by TP
I went to bed the other night having a battle around Cadwell! Sad I know.

You must be joking! I'm always doing that, have to stop myself these days as it takes me ages to fall asleep if I start.

Had some great last lap battles though, especially cadwell. Mostly wet though at the moment!:lol:

Jools 07-Feb-2006 13:16

Visualisation - very powerful technique. Used by most top sportsman and even recomended by WeeJohnyBee :-)

For us types with a background in human performance improvement it's closely related to AI - No, not Artificial Insemination (there's the sex again), but Appreciative Inquiry.

Basically this technique accentuates the positive and eliminates the negative (there's an old duffers radio two type song in there somewhere) so instead of beating yourself up over things you did wrong during a lap, you simply replay, in your mind, the corner or corners that you did pretty damn good. You don't just go through it analytically either, you ask yourself what it felt like...what was the 'yeeeehaaaa' factor.

It might sound like purest Californian Psychobabble, but it's been proven to work over and over again in scientific double blind tests. One that springs to mind was a bunch of novice ten pin bowlers who were all given some basic coaching, then split into three groups where their average group ability was equal.

- One set were just told to get on with it and bowl as much as they liked, just learning from their own experience
- One set were given more advanced coaching about their run up, swing, release techniques etc
- One set were left to just get on with it, like the first group, but when they got a strike or a respectable score they were just asked to close their eyes and visualise that again. What their run up felt like, how the swing and release felt etc.

You've probably already worked out that the third group improved their scores the most.

Related back to bikes, the first group would just be doing the equivalent of loads of laps, reinforcing good habits and bad ones equally. The second group would have done CSS (or had lots of trackday instruction) and they certainly improved more quickly. BUT, even with the best instruction in the world, nobody can tell you how the bike felt when you got it dead right (you might need a coach to let you know you got it just right), and visualising just how that felt once again is a tremendously powerful way of improving your performance.

Still doubt it? Lots of racing takes place in your head

weeksy2 07-Feb-2006 13:21

so many it's untrue... even now i don't race any more...

i was lapping Oulton last night in bed as it's my first TD.

I watched BSB2001 and 2001 about 5 times last week.

dickieducati 07-Feb-2006 13:24

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Originally posted by weeksy2
so many it's untrue... even now i don't race any more...

i was lapping Oulton last night in bed as it's my first TD.

I watched BSB2001 and 2001 about 5 times last week.

why :puzzled:

Jools 07-Feb-2006 13:32

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Originally posted by weeksy2

i was lapping Oulton last night in bed as it's my first TD.



A bike might be quicker :P:lol:

weeksy2 07-Feb-2006 13:50

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Originally posted by dickieducati
Quote:

Originally posted by weeksy2
so many it's untrue... even now i don't race any more...

i was lapping Oulton last night in bed as it's my first TD.

I watched BSB2001 and 2001 about 5 times last week.

why :puzzled:

Visualisation mate... i used to do the same with golf.... it relaxes me and keeps my mind happy....

I love thinking about riding bikes on track...

Tonio600 07-Feb-2006 13:57

The only laps I'm doing are around my bike in my shed... :lol:

Dominic Clegg 07-Feb-2006 18:48

i do it when im in the gym. go through a few laps in my head well the few tracks iv been to

Rattler 07-Feb-2006 22:40

Doh - I do this too - I seem to think mostly about Brands, where I need to go better - Surtees, then Corum, then Craner, then the Gooseneck and finally Lodge - and I haven't even crashed there yet!!

Help me Dr Jools!!!

ali 07-Feb-2006 22:47

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Originally posted by Rattler
I seem to think mostly about Brands, where I need to go better -

Bugger off! You go quite fast enough there thanks very much. I was hoping you were thinking about maybe backing off a bit this year, going easy at Brands, making just a little more effort to notice the scenery.....

No? Arse.

fil2 08-Feb-2006 09:27

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Originally posted by Dseered
Sorry to join in the 'racers' coversation, I do this alot though, any that know me know I am a dreamer, only ever done one Trackday but felt I knew the track when I got there, although terrified, I knew my way round and I amazed myself at Cadwell, I had watched that on bike video hundreds of times.

I am a salesman, know my customers and seem to dream my next days calls, DeJaVu happens quite alot in my life !

Dream about joining DD and make it a reality.....:D........

You know you want too.............does'nt everyone....;)

Phil

WeeJohnyB 08-Feb-2006 18:37

Don't get me started:lol:

WeeJohnyB

Felix 08-Feb-2006 19:04

Funny thing is, I never as fast on the track.:lol:

Jools 08-Feb-2006 19:12

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Originally posted by Rattler
Doh - I do this too - I seem to think mostly about Brands, where I need to go better - Surtees, then Corum, then Craner, then the Gooseneck and finally Lodge - and I haven't even crashed there yet!!

Help me Dr Jools!!!

Doctor Jools says....

Hold the throttle wide open, only brake when you're really, really, really scared. Tip the bike in towards the apex as quick as you dare and twist the throttle wide open again. Ignore the the overwhelming feelings of fecal incontinence.

:rodent::rodent::rodent:


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