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Athelstan 13-Feb-2006 09:02

Motorbike Sales 2005
 
Even the affluent Swiss have stopped buying!

All the gnomes in Zurich could not stop the slid!

Figures released for Swiss Motorbike sales (ex scooters) show an overall downturn in 2005 of minus 14% on 2004's figures - individual brand performances:

Honda and Yamaha -15.6%
Kawasaki -24.5%
Suzuki +7.3%

Harley +11.4%

KTM -7.2%
Ducati -8.6%
Aprilia -41.2%
BMW +6.0%
Triumph +12.5%

So Johnny Bloor does it again........................outperforms the Germans, the Japs and the Italians - oh and before anyone say’s anything - Harleys don't count as only the brain dead buy them!!

What's the UK looking like - anyone got the numbers for Blighty?

I'm off to the Swiss motorbike show this Friday but I doubt if they’ll be anything of great interest on display – especially from Ducati who seem to be going round in ever decreasing circles just lately.
:puzzled:

skidlids 13-Feb-2006 09:36

Looks like Suzuki are the flavour of the year as far as the Jap bikes go, with a sale growth only bettered by Triumph and Harley.

Could this be related to WSB performances, can't be Moto GP and Ducati sales have certainly slipped since the days when Foggy was wining WSB races/championships

weeksy2 13-Feb-2006 09:44

Could it be the fact they are not really making a 'budget' machine these days ?

The Monster was a 'cheaper' alternative to someone getting into Ducatis, as was the 600SS/750SS... now whilst they may still sell some of the above, when they've done re-vamps, they've only done them to the big budget, e.g Monster S4.

MAybe it's time to build a cheaper alternative, and make it a little 'different' ?

skidlids 13-Feb-2006 09:49

Quote:

Originally posted by weeksy2
Maybe it's time to build a cheaper alternative, and make it a little 'different' ?

And with a low seat hieght just like the original Monsters

Twinfan 13-Feb-2006 10:55

Quote:

Originally posted by skidlids
Looks like Suzuki are the flavour of the year as far as the Jap bikes go, with a sale growth only bettered by Triumph and Harley.

Could this be related to WSB performances, can't be Moto GP and Ducati sales have certainly slipped since the days when Foggy was wining WSB races/championships

Suzuki sales are up becuase they're cheap...

skidlids 13-Feb-2006 11:47

What and all the other Jap bikes are expensive, must be some cheap Triumphs and Harleys in Switerland also.

Felix 13-Feb-2006 11:52

Even Landrovers are cheaper in Switzerland!

Twinfan 13-Feb-2006 12:57

I think Suzuki sales will be up globally as they're very competitive on pricing at the moment.

Athelstan 13-Feb-2006 13:28

Guys
Nothing is "cheap" in Switzerland.

You'll pay more for your Triumph, Ducati, Suzuki or Harley at the dealer, plus, you'll pay more in tax on top of the price for road tax (which is dependent on size of engine and which of the 26 kantones you live in)

I bought my Duke in Blighty and rode it out here and paid local taxes (import + vat + road + registration + licensing taxes) and I still saved 3grand.

Where oh where Felix did you get that Landrover price tag from - I'll buy two!!

Felix 13-Feb-2006 14:27

My brother bought one recently and it was cheaper to buy it there then here. Fuel is cheaper as well.

twpd 13-Feb-2006 15:37

Bike sales were on the slide here in 2005 and I understand that the trade has had a tough time. Triumph's prices are pretty competitive atm and the new 675 is cheaper than most of the 600's, Suzuki excepted which is a fair bit cheaper again. I think the lower prices helps.

Ducati suffer from high prices and (I suspect) the lack of popularity (as has been said elsewhere here before) of the current superbikes when compared to the 748/916 series. High prices were fine in the mid-90's when they offered something different and were head & shoulders above the competition in terms of performance - now they aren't.

I am not convinced the WSB performance has anything to do with a slide in Ducati sales. They've lost me as a customer for the superbikes as they just don't attract me aesthetically at all and they offer no tangible riding experience/benefit over the older 4vlv bikes which, are biking icons. I've also come to appreciate the good simplicity of the 2vlv bikes.

The Monsters are getting more and more complicated and expensive - as they've always been the bread winners for Ducati I'm not so sure that this strategy is wise. With the exception of the 4vlv versions there hasn't been much development with the Monsters and people seem to see them as a bit out of date these days. My own opinion is that the Monsters are none the worse for being old design-wise as they are still very good road bikes that offer most of what people need....but then I'm probably not very representative in this fashion-conscious biking age.

Athelstan 13-Feb-2006 15:59

Felix
I am overjoyed for your brother and that you have posted this information as I very interested in aquiring a new vehicle, so please, can you get the name of the garage your brother has bought his Landrover from, and also the garage where he buys petrol from as I cannot pass up this opportunity to save myself a small fortune. Many thanks in anticipation.

the phantom pieman 13-Feb-2006 16:23

Quote:

Originally posted by Athelstan
Guys
Nothing is "cheap" in Switzerland.

You'll pay more for your Triumph, Ducati, Suzuki or Harley at the dealer, plus, you'll pay more in tax on top of the price for road tax (which is dependent on size of engine and which of the 26 kantones you live in)

I bought my Duke in Blighty and rode it out here and paid local taxes (import + vat + road + registration + licensing taxes) and I still saved 3grand.

Where oh where Felix did you get that Landrover price tag from - I'll buy two!!

Athelstan ..

I went to the Zurich show last year and it was a bit of awaste of time. 4 bikes and two floors of Harley bolt ons ... ( well almost).

If I go I will aim for Thursday , as the waether looks too good on Friday to miss snowboarding

Re the cost of things ... my second hand GS1150 was considerably cheaper in Swizzy than the UK. I paid about 6.5k(GBP) for an 18 month old ADV with 7 k kms .....

Felix 13-Feb-2006 17:32

Quote:

Originally posted by Athelstan
Felix
I am overjoyed for your brother and that you have posted this information as I very interested in aquiring a new vehicle, so please, can you get the name of the garage your brother has bought his Landrover from, and also the garage where he buys petrol from as I cannot pass up this opportunity to save myself a small fortune. Many thanks in anticipation.

Your welcome.

Athelstan 13-Feb-2006 17:52

Phantom - if you change your mind and go Friday we could meet up at the show and also have a beer or two. Yes last year I too was not impressed.

Ah - second hand is always a different kettle of fish.

Where you going snowboarding? I can never get out on a Thursday but Fridays and the weekends are always a possibility if you want to do the slopes with a geriatric on funny shaped skis.............

[Edited on 13-2-2006 by Athelstan]


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