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final_edition 16-Feb-2006 16:52

998s starting problems
 
My 998s fe. will not start from cold, I have replaced the battery(GS) and plugs for NGK ones.The voltage on the new battery is 12.5v and when running it is 13.6v. All the engine will do is turn over and over, with the occasional backfire. It sometimes seems as if it wants to catch but doesn't. If I jump start it from an aux battery it will catch and start. Although when left idling the engine speed will drop from 1k rpm to 500rpm where the engine will stall. When ridden or from hot it will start on its own battery. This is becoming a pain as I can keep riding around with jumpleads!
Please help!!

Ray 16-Feb-2006 17:00

Has the bike been laid up for a while? My 998 is a B to start from cold after being left, I suspect the fuel has detriorated, very similar symtoms to yours.

Basically no fresh fuel has gone into the tank since last November and wouldn't start on its own battery despite it being well charged up.

From cold has to be jumped off, once warm starts OK.

Ray

final_edition 16-Feb-2006 17:10

It hasn't been used for a while, it had half a tank in it, I topped it up with new fuel. I will drain tank and see what happens...any other ideas while i've got my spanners out?

rockhopper 16-Feb-2006 17:28

An idle speed that low suggests that it might only be running on one pot.

Touch the exhaust headers to see if they are both hot.

[Edited on 16-2-2006 by rockhopper]

final_edition 16-Feb-2006 17:52

Quote:

Originally posted by Ray
Has the bike been laid up for a while? My 998 is a B to start from cold after being left, I suspect the fuel has detriorated, very similar symtoms to yours.

Basically no fresh fuel has gone into the tank since last November and wouldn't start on its own battery despite it being well charged up.

From cold has to be jumped off, once warm starts OK.

Ray
Put new fuel in and it started on the button, although bike has run this afternoon, will try and start it in the morning to see if all is ok.
Cheers!!

KeefyB 16-Feb-2006 18:28

Could be the battery,...is it the sealed gel type?
Your voltmeter may say there is 12.5v at the terminals but it still may not have enough oomph to start the bike.

Jon 16-Feb-2006 19:53

I found that if I gave it too much choke it would not start first time. Also if it does fail to start, I always switch off and back on again. I usually turn the choke 1/4 to 1/5 of the way round. Then turn it up more once it has started.

nelly 16-Feb-2006 23:33

Was it running ok before the new plugs?

Reason is, the hex on the specified NGK's is too low and using a conventional plug socket, you won't be able to tighten the plug up fully. Even a cheap box spanner is too thick walled.
The profile of the plug cavity at the bottom pushes the socket off the plug....
Wish they'd try and fit them before spec'ing them

final_edition 17-Feb-2006 15:29

Started today and all seems well. Looks as if it was the fuel.
I have turned down a plug socket, so it fits down into the engine when fitting NGK's. It wasn't starting before the new plugs were fitted.
Thanks for the help!:)

rcgbob44 17-Feb-2006 23:11

My 998 is a little hard to start if its been standing for a long time but once started its goes like stink!

andyb 18-Feb-2006 08:57

Dont those old models need leaded 4*?:lol:

Jon 18-Feb-2006 22:58

Quote:

Originally posted by andyb
Dont those old models need leaded 4*?:lol:


Not really Andy, not like the new ones that have to have special fuel because they ain't as fast has the old uns.;)

Stealth 19-Feb-2006 09:27

You might also want to change your fle filter as old fuel does build up restrictive residue which can impede fuel flow.

An easy stop gap measure is to put some STP fuel injector cleaner in with your fuel.

rcgbob44 19-Feb-2006 12:57

Andy...........................you Bitch!:o


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