eBay - PayPal Surcharges
 

Just a little rant, but this really ****es me off - the old "add 4% if you pay with PayPal" in an eBay advert.

eBay did a big campaign a while back, when they bought out PayPal, to stop this and make it against the Ts&Cs of using eBay.

So tonight I've bought something - and there's the "add 4% to the total if you're paying with PayPal or we won't send it".

So I've reported the robbing *******s.

/rant

details here, with links to the reporting form, if you're interested:
http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policie...urcharges.html

Dont worry - Ebay can't be ranted at enough these days.

A great service gone bad.

This topic is REALLLY annoying me at the moment: PRIVATE FEEDBACK !!!

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policie...ck-public.html

Lookat it from the sellers POV. He gets charged for the listing, he gets charged for the sale and then he gets charged by PayPal.

Take, take, take.

It's not like PayPal's protection is worth **** - it isn't, it's worthless.

Personally I won't accept or use PayPal when I'm selling. It's cheque only and if you want the convenience of getting it quickly by PayPal then you pay for it because, there is no benefit to it for me as a seller.

frank i just avoid folk with private feedback, what are they trying to hide??

/ian

I don't trust ebay or more specifically PayPal, who returned the money to one of my buyers as he claimed not to have received the goods. He later listed the item for sale !!! They would not accept that I had a certificate of posting and that the buyer had accepted my first class post option as he'd bid on the item which clearly showed that postal option.

I only ever send out things by recorded or special delivery these days.

You are not obliged to buy items which state that a paypal charge will be made, as far as ebay are concerned its an illegal listing.

I always use paypal for sales simply becasue it takes me my whole lunch hour to drive to the bank to put cheques in so the cost of taking paypal is more than worth it.

Must admit mate - I ask people to cover my costs..just sold a set of termis and the paypal charges alone would have hit me for £17..! :flame:

Nat

Too right Nat. PayPal ****es me off - they crow on about the protection that you get from it but, both times I've needed it they let me down...they only care about the fees they receive so, I do my utmost not to give them money.

If a business uses credit cards it pays a %age to the CC company.

Paypal makes it easy for those of us who don't have CC merchant accounts to take CC payments.

Why should we expect the service to be free?

I always account for it when posting an auction, and accept it. I think any seller should do the same.

Now Travel Agents that charge 2% for CC payments online, but don't provide another means of paying, that's another rant (but it's perfectly legal)

Simple, when selling something on e-bay allow for all the fee's. If you feel the price you get for the item is not high enough after paying all the fee's then sell the item else were.

I do disagree with people charging extra for pay pal fee's. I tend to ignore this request and to date the seller has still sent the goods.

I think that an even bigger rip off is those that charge you VAT, there is a guy in norfolk who trades on ebay & wants VAT on everything:mad:



Chris.:burn:

Fully agree ..... i will not bid on an item that is plus VAT, no matter how cheap it is :mad:

When I buy stuff on my credit card they never say "oh, I have to add on 4% into the charges now" - the item is costed to reflect those charges in the price already.

This is the thing that stinks - it's like the "budget" airlines that offer flights for 2p, but then add surcharges, charges, credit-card charges, luggage check-in charges and then still turn up late.

I think that is chris clarke who used to be the main ducati dealer in norfolk till he went tits up...

Simon

I tend to add the 4% if selling something expensive,like Nat said,it can cost you £20+.On cheaper things forget it.If you don't want to pay by paypal,you can always send a cheque,postal order or bankers draft.The choice is yours.As for the protection Paypal gives,i paid for something from Italy,nothing arrived,i sent an e-mail everyday,no reply.I put in a grievance through Paypal;lo and behold i got an e-mail from the seller stating that they had lost my details,pc was down etc and they would send the item immediately,In the meantime Paypal refunded my money.Which was great.The seller wasn't happy,because they were now relying on me to be honest and pay when the stuff arrived!!It did arrive and i promptly paid.I can see Paul James point of view where he got stung,but from my side,i could have got stung but Paypal sorted it.Good and bad points from both sides methinks.

VAT is a tricky one, if you live in the uk and buy anything vat rated from a vat registered seller its the law that you pay it. the seller doesnt get it Customs and excise get it. They would rather not collect it for the VAT man.

If you list an item as 'Plus VAT' then the uk buyers get upset (not sure why, you pay it on everything else you buy new in this country)

If you list it as including VAT then the international bidders get upset as it makes tricky for them to calculate what the actual cost is.

Ebay is an interntional market place, so you have to account for the whole world.

What's the answer???