Official Points Table Anyone????????
 

Do we get a points table this year?

I knew MW had some uses :lol:

;)

Not official yet, but I keep hoping :)

http://www.desmotrader.co.uk/dd_standing/

Btw, what does starter mean? Jump start?

It means that the person started, but did not finish.

Nice points table too Tonio ;)

Isn't it DNF?...

I sent an e-mail to CB last Monday he said he had done the spread sheet and it was just being checked and should be out tomorrow (last Tuesday) I have done one but did not want to post it till the scoring method was agreed. Both Doms and Tonios have used last years points system. The 2006 rules indicate that there is a 5, 4, 3 and 2 point advantage for 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th. Does this mean then that the points scored by the winning rider will depend on the number of rider who finish:puzzled: If so then it is a bit odd as some one with two second places could lead the championship over someone with two first places.

Mike

Yes.

I don't know where you got the results from, but if someone has 'started' but does not have a finishing position - I would assume that they did not finish???

Call me a detective ;)

Yes, I re-read that rule too, but I think I came to the conclusion that the old points system would work out pretty much the same.

There are 30+ riders in each class, and the new points system works on 25 riders entering - therefore, the 'old' system is still correct.

I think.

Unless we're working it out per race meeting - which would be crazy.

I reckon the rules are pretty clear. We have enough riders signed up for points down to 25th place, so the only change from last year is the points for 3rd to 6th have decreased (gawd knows why!).

It's not nearly as flash as Tonio's version but updating last year's table gives...

Class A

And class B

Well I think that the points system is a crock of shite. Why should it be that because you win a race you get an extra 5 points, 2nd place gets 4 extra points etc etc. This system could lead to a situation where someone could win the championship with some good results but the second place man who could have had a very consistent session getting second places in all their races. Can someone please explain this system to me?

Murray Mint

Yes.

It's the roolz, so there!!

:lol:

Not sure what was wrong with the system that every other championship on the planet uses - but then this aint a normal series is it.

Well look at the attached spread sheet I think you'll find some interesting results. I have applied a revised point scoring system of 35 for a 1st, 34 = 2nd 33 = 3rd etc.

Interesting, but you really need a 5,4,3,2,1 gap at the top, otherwise it's not a big enough reward for winning.

MotoGP, WSB, BSB, and every other championship is done this way... 25, 20, 16, 13, 11, 10, 9...

I think the idea of DD scoring (top 25) is that everyone scores a point (or close to). Not sure I fully agree with that aspect, but it worked OK last season, and it's something else to make DD a bit different.

I didnt think the points were to be changed from last year, as soon as we had the guarantee of 25 per class, which we have.

Why does the points have to be decreased in 2006 for 3rd to 6th?:puzzled: why fiddle with something that aint broke?:puzzled:

Will email the RC to get confirmation from them as havent heard anything since before cadwell not even a message about the prizegiving going awol.

WoooHoooo... I'm third! You going to buy me a trophy too murray?!?! :lol:

Nick

Well it proves a point in that if you are consistent then you will be rewarded with a better final position, and no I’m not getting you a trophy.


Just because other championships are run this way does not make it fair, I think there would be more incentive to win if the points were harder to obtain.

Murray Mint

I'm not even in murrays tables LOL ;)

Murray's table is for the 2005 series, as we don't know who wins the 2006 championship yet ;)

we don't ? LOL

I just don't see what is wrong with motogp style points ?
If you don't get into the top 15 you don't get points simple as that, if everyone gets points where is the incentive ?
Maybe give the aldi class points and food vouchers for everyone , then make class A proper points ;) ;) ;)

My point here is that at the top of the table there can be some people that are not consistently scoring points but may have a few good results and end up above those riders that have been up there throughout the season, maybe the points should not be distributed any further than say 15th position and this would encourage those riders to try harder.

So Mr. detective, what's the difference between a "DNF" and a "starter" on the time sheet?... Got it, it seems a "starter" is a first lap DNF :D

Of course it is.

Well done :D

I will send you a prize :lol:

I disagree with you my friend... In the way you would like things to be, what would be the point taking risks to win a race when finishing second would bring you almost the same amount of points?... I guess that finishing 2nd must be quite good, but it's nowhere near finishing first :)

I'll take them thanks very much :D

Ahh but someone has got to be first.

At the beginning of last season I argued very hotly to ensure that finishers down to 25th place got points as it gives us novices a better incentive/reward to RACE one another at the back of the field, it could be that you end up racing for 25th position in the "championship" against another rider who is on the same points as you, and THAT is what this series is SUPPOSED to be about, giving DSC CLUB MEMBERS the opprotunity to experience RACING (at any level) without the expense (or danger?) of mixing it in something like SOT. Other than a lot more novices and a few more people with racing experience joining in I don't see what has changed to warrant adopting a points system that only rewards the top 15? Stick with the top 25 scoring and make sure the winners get a suitable bounty, the 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 etc differential works well at rewarding that extra bit of effort to push from 2nd to 1st place.

Yep I agree, 99% :D

Maybe just leave the points system from 2005 - It worked didn't it???

Broke, Fix It, Don't :eureka:

exactly..........................

Agree with psychlist 100% - the reason for awarding down to 25th place was because of the large grids we had at all races last year - sometimes 38 people in a race? - so those who were at the back of the grid still had a reason to turn up and have their own battles for points.