BBC News: Words of advice for Peugeot workers...
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4924438.stm

Somehow I don't think the second person gave their real name...

Maurice Minor:lol:

Best of luck to the Peugot workers, but last night I was listening to the figures Peugot would be liable for when making someone redundant:
French worker £140k per worker
British worker £50k per worker.
Hmmmm, bean counters rule the world.

If only Peugot had sense to drop the bombshell closer to an election, at least they could have got a couple of million off Mr Bliar to tide them over for a couple of weeks.

I hate how the blame for the decision is always heaped upon the "bean counters". Accountants have a bad enough time with the brown shoes and cheap suits jokes.

Big company accountants (I'm excluding small practices that advise smaller companies) are responsible for reporting correctly how the company has done in the past, not the future - that's one of the main reasons why I stopped doing it.

The buck stops with the CFO who will have been advised by his/her strategy department, combined with a long line of banking corporate advisors.

Alternative scapegoats are institutional investors and analysts (most of whom haven't worked a day in the industries that they are looking at) that pressure the company into doing things that might be good for the share price in the near term.

Rant over.

Blimey someone that supports accountants Chi?!

Not that I am a big company just small time really.....

Peugeot problems certainly not my fault........ Bet it was Tonio....

one day we'll have had enough and then revolt!



[Edited on 20-4-2006 by chicken]

[Edited on 20-4-2006 by chicken]

People already tell me I'm revolting....

Having a wife who works in a "closed-shop" unionised environment, I figure there's only one place you need look for blame re this decision....

The unions bleed organisations dry in such a short-sighted way it is untrue. They want everything for nothing and then lay the blame on the organisation itself when they get p1ssed off being held over a barrel ("agree to our unrealistic terms or we strike!!!!!") and shut shop and move the whole operation elsewhere.

My wife's firm has an average wage of £30k+ (bear in mind it's production-line manufacturing), average age of 45+, average annual holiday entitlement of 30 days, average paid sickness well over the norm etc, etc...They even negotiated that staff get the Tuesday off after the bank holiday cos they didn't want to waste a day's holiday as they normally finish at 3pm on a Friday....

Their latest request is for a holiday form so they can book holiday 5 years in advance......pathetic.....



:flame::flame:

Where is this and do they have any jobs going :puzzled:

You speaking about my country aren't you? :D

Aren't you off for the weekend yet Antoine? Surely you must have completed the statutory maximum 40 hours by now :devil:

almost :lol:

Hes got next wednesday off in lieu....

MMmmm
Where to start here Vauxhall workers got in the reagion of 80K as a redundancy package and were offered extremme rework packages, such as HGV lessons.
By comparrison my pal who was a Chassis desiegn Engineer at Rover got way less than that and I mean WAY less I am talking low single figures here.
Unions today have no standing in the Automotive industry. I have worked in it for 25 years from shop floor to management and I feel I have a fairly impatial view.
Todays Management is appaling and has no direction.
It is only a matter of time before what is left of the British Auto Industry is sent to the far East.

I think unions today have very little standing in most industries which is why they sabre-rattle so much to get their fix of "we are important".

I loved it when the Gate Gourmet strike mongering Union reps got sacked by BA after they were proved wrong......show's they're not infallible or above reason.........

If it wasn't for the poor souls who lose their jobs at Peugeot UK I would say good on the French for sticking two fingers up to the union and saying enough is enough, we're off to cheaper and more realistic T&C climes......

As I said before, they're short-sighted and want everything now but when they've bled the firm dry or peeved the financial management off so much they then bleat when the company shuts shop.

Peugeot Factory Closure
 

It isn't a surprise to me that the English factory produces more cars per head than the French counterpart. What is patently obvious is that it's much easier and cheaper for Peugeot to sack our people.
French opposition to site closures is much stronger than in England.