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phillc 09-May-2006 20:57

CSS Instructor Examination Day
 
DSCer Tony Perrin (TP) was doing his final CSS instructor examination at Rockingham today.

Does anyone know how he got on?

JasonBoswell 09-May-2006 21:03

Yeah, I'd be really interested to know too, Phil, as he borrowed my beloved and much doted upon 996 today.

I'd be so pleased to know that I helped him pass, as he's had such a hard time of it lately.

:devil:

antonye 09-May-2006 21:22

Hopefully he made at least one lap...

TP 09-May-2006 22:09

Quote:

Originally posted by JasonBoswell
Yeah, I'd be really interested to know too, Phil, as he borrowed my beloved and much doted upon 996 today.

I'd be so pleased to know that I helped him pass, as he's had such a hard time of it lately.

:devil:

Well mate, you did. You, Kate and Phil were absolute stars last night in my hour of need.

I'm now a CSS riding coach.

domski 09-May-2006 22:11

Oh my god, EVERYONE... RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol:

Well done Crashy ;)

How long have CSS been running stunt classes for? :P

Seriously though, chuffed for you dude :D

CK 09-May-2006 22:12

Huge Congrats TP:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

Mark 09-May-2006 22:13

Well done Skippy :)

phillc 09-May-2006 22:18

Quote:

Originally posted by TP
You, Kate and Phil were absolute stars last night in my hour of need.


Aaaawwww. :bouncy:

So Jason's bike went OK then mate?

Congratulations! Look out UK track riding world.
:D

antonye 09-May-2006 22:59

For all the **** taking, sincere congrats mate!

ericthered40 09-May-2006 23:20

What you say Skipp, your an instructor.

If I come for a lesson will you promise not to spray oil in my face and then torch yourself.

:)

Well done mate good luck with it:)

TP 09-May-2006 23:37

Quote:

Originally posted by ericthered40
What you say Skipp, your an instructor.

If I come for a lesson will you promise not to spray oil in my face and then torch yourself.

:)

Well done mate good luck with it:)

Now that would hardly be entertaining now would it!

Thanks everyone for all your kind words.

TopiToo 09-May-2006 23:38

Hello TP

well done that man!

congratulations are in order;)

regards

TopiToo

butch890 10-May-2006 04:10

well done mate,how long before you can take the stabilizers off!:lol:
Butch

webbyc 10-May-2006 06:21

Didn't realise that the CSS had a kamikaze section:lol:

Seriously though well done Skippy:cool:

chicken 10-May-2006 07:09

Well done mate!

Ian Harris 10-May-2006 07:56

Well done Tony, many congratulations

DP 10-May-2006 08:25

Well played chum!:P

Jools 10-May-2006 10:09

Excellent news....must think about level 4 when I've got some money.

fil2 10-May-2006 11:22

do you have to do the CSS levels prior to Becoming a CSS instructor......>?

TP 10-May-2006 11:28

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
do you have to do the CSS levels prior to Becoming a CSS instructor......>?

Not sure but I would suggest that it would be a lot more difficult as you haven't been taught the syllabus and this is what you are there to help coach students on. The 'Grilling' is approximately an hour long and you have bad cop and badder cop constantly firing questions at you on the technology the school teaches. You have to have a good understanding of the technology and be reasonably articulate in explaining it and its application.

If you're interested, why don't you ring Andy Ibbott and find out?

fil2 10-May-2006 13:42

Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
do you have to do the CSS levels prior to Becoming a CSS instructor......>?

Not sure but I would suggest that it would be a lot more difficult as you haven't been taught the syllabus and this is what you are there to help coach students on. The 'Grilling' is approximately an hour long and you have bad cop and badder cop constantly firing questions at you on the technology the school teaches. You have to have a good understanding of the technology and be reasonably articulate in explaining it and its application.

If you're interested, why don't you ring Andy Ibbott and find out?

When i have acheived the goals i have set myself with racing..it is something that im interested in...as well as some track day instruction.........possibly....

TP 10-May-2006 14:08

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
Quote:

Originally posted by TP
Not sure but I would suggest that it would be a lot more difficult as you haven't been taught the syllabus and this is what you are there to help coach students on. The 'Grilling' is approximately an hour long and you have bad cop and badder cop constantly firing questions at you on the technology the school teaches. You have to have a good understanding of the technology and be reasonably articulate in explaining it and its application.

If you're interested, why don't you ring Andy Ibbott and find out?

When i have acheived the goals i have set myself with racing..it is something that im interested in...as well as some track day instruction.........possibly....

Cool, well when it's something you want to pursue I'd actually take it up with Johnny Haynes.

Good luck mate.

Jon 10-May-2006 18:34

Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
do you have to do the CSS levels prior to Becoming a CSS instructor......>?

Phil the CSS sent out an open invitation last year to pupils inviting them to a coach assesment day. When I asked what was expected in the way of commitment if you where to be succesfull. The answer was 10 days a year. Thats a big commitment unless you a lazy ozzie basteed:D

bradders 10-May-2006 18:38

does it pay well....??

TP 10-May-2006 18:42

Quote:

Originally posted by bradders
does it pay well....??

Well that's relative to the income you have now I would guess, which is different for everyone.

I know I'm not doing it for the money.

domski 10-May-2006 18:47

Can you do 120 days a year?

Coz I could do it for a job then ;)

:lol:

Jon 10-May-2006 20:50

Quote:

Originally posted by domski
Can you do 120 days a year?

Coz I could do it for a job then ;)

:lol:

I think they have enough crashers on the team;)

tetol 10-May-2006 21:36

so you pay what £300 per level to be taught by tp:puzzled: or am i missing something.

Jon 10-May-2006 22:41

Quote:

Originally posted by tetol
so you pay what £300 per level to be taught by tp:puzzled: or am i missing something.


Don't get me wrong, I'm only jesting with TP. One thing for sure though you won't go wrong being instructed by TP. he knows the drill inside out.

Rattler 10-May-2006 22:43

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon
Quote:

Originally posted by tetol
so you pay what £300 per level to be taught by tp:puzzled: or am i missing something.


Don't get me wrong, I'm only jesting with TP. One thing for sure though you won't go wrong being instructed by TP. he knows the drill inside out.

TP, Jon - get a room!!!

fil2 11-May-2006 09:30

Quote:

Originally posted by Jon
Quote:

Originally posted by fil2
do you have to do the CSS levels prior to Becoming a CSS instructor......>?

Phil the CSS sent out an open invitation last year to pupils inviting them to a coach assesment day. When I asked what was expected in the way of commitment if you where to be succesfull. The answer was 10 days a year. Thats a big commitment unless you a lazy ozzie basteed:D

10 days sounds fine....obviously when i stop racing as i cant afford the time for both....certainly it is of interest to me.......but who knows........i may not fit the mould required.



[Edited on 11-5-2006 by fil2]

weeksy2 11-May-2006 09:43

Quote:

Originally posted by tetol
so you pay what £300 per level to be taught by tp:puzzled: or am i missing something.


Nope, you have it pretty much correct.

antonye 11-May-2006 09:49

Quote:

Originally posted by tetol
so you pay what £300 per level to be taught by tp:puzzled: or am i missing something.

Why? Being taught by TP is no better or worse than any of the other instructors as they have all passed the instructors test.

andyb 11-May-2006 09:53

Please correct me if im wrong, what puts me off doing the training is the fact there is no kind of entrance exam.

In that, i mean it doesnt take in to account previous ability good or bad, speed of learning, track time..etc.

antonye 11-May-2006 09:57

I think that's actually part of the point Andy.

If you read the CSS books, you'll see that Keith Code's whole idea was to break "riding a motorcycle, fast" down into the main elements which made you able to do it.

The courses ensure that you are doing all of the basics right first, before moving you on to the more advanced stuff - kind of like making sure that your foundations are fine before building higher.

Keith Code thinks that this is just as important as the more advanced stuff because, after all, if you don't know why you counter steer then how can they effectively teach you advanced techniques in it?

weeksy2 11-May-2006 10:03

When did TP first get on a racetrack then ? must have been a long time ago to be able to have the experience to teach ?

antonye 11-May-2006 10:07

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Originally posted by weeksy2
When did TP first get on a racetrack then ? must have been a long time ago to be able to have the experience to teach ?

What does that have to do with his ability to teach a prescribed method?

Or are we back onto your sour grapes with CSS again?

weeksy2 11-May-2006 10:09

No mate, just curious really ? looking at most walks of life and the 'teachers' in them in sport, e.g Golf/Tennis/Footie etc...

All the 'teachers' of tequnique are generally old hands with tonnes and tonnes of experience... All the top coaches in any sport i can think of really have been there and done it for many many years ? wrong ?

I have no sour grapes with CSS, myself and Andy get along really well.. As said... the school was really well run.... just wasn't right for me as a person.

CK 11-May-2006 10:13

Weeksy - you dont HAVE to be a god at your chosen subject - just have the thorough knowledge to be able to impart to others the right way to do this.

I might have competed horses to International level (tho mid range there) but had the ability to be able to instruct others to above my own personal ability.

I was able to help a dear mate in axe murderers cut his lap times by 1.2/1.3 seconds 3 years ago by pointing out a couple of minor things to him - which he took on board & applied next time out - and I dont race or do track days - but I do watch.

TP - lessons for me please next time you get a road bike out mate!

antonye 11-May-2006 10:15

I disagree completely. You don't need to be an "old hand" at anything to teach someone else. What is required is a solid understanding of the subject and an ability to convey the meaning and ensure that the pupil understands, spotting their errors and helping them to correct them along the way.

That has nothing to do with experience, as in all walks of life. I'm sure you've been taught by many people who had less experience than you on things like IT courses, but their understanding of the subject and teaching ability makes them a better teacher than the "know it all" old fart that sits in the corner and grunts.


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