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Jools 07-Jun-2006 12:33

Drugs wanted
 
Any of you racing types have any recomendations for drugs? The pain killing sort, not recreational. I know that you can't stuff yourself with paracetemol without turning your liver to silicon, but what combinations of stuff can you use?

Dislocated the middle knuckles of my index and middle finger of my left hand last Thursday and I couldn't bend them properly - good job I'm right handed ;)

I can just about make a fist now with a bit of wincing, but I was out on the bike yesterday and the Dooks famously heavy clutch gives me a bit of gyp. I'm going on Raid the Lakes this weekend and nothing is going to stop me, another few days should see a bit of improvement anyway, but I'll need to be prepared to take some stuff with me since it's a 700 mile + weekend

Any ideas for pain killing drug cocktails that won't send me to sleep or any rubs I can use?

fil2 07-Jun-2006 12:36

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Originally Posted by Jools
Any of you racing types have any recomendations for drugs? The pain killing sort, not recreational. I know that you can't stuff yourself with paracetemol without turning your liver to silicon, but what combinations of stuff can you use?

Dislocated the middle knuckles of my index and middle finger of my left hand last Thursday and I couldn't bend them properly - good job I'm right handed ;)

I can just about make a fist now with a bit of wincing, but I was out on the bike yesterday and the Dooks famously heavy clutch gives me a bit of gyp. I'm going on Raid the Lakes this weekend and nothing is going to stop me, another few days should see a bit of improvement anyway, but I'll need to be prepared to take some stuff with me since it's a 700 mile + weekend

Any ideas for pain killing drug cocktails that won't send me to sleep or any rubs I can use?



Red tiger balm.........is good stuff m8...or there is a rub that has local aneathestic properties..hmm i forget its name....

i would not promote the taking of any other than the std stuff if your riding for long periods of time as you will be at the lakes...............

Jools 07-Jun-2006 12:45

Cheers Phil, I'll look out for the tiger stuff

(Note to self: Must get better at blocking Ushiro Mawashi Geri's)

Iconic944ss 07-Jun-2006 12:48

Try a search Jools - I'm sure there was something maybe in the DD forum on a very similar line.

But with various warnings about taking medication and riding, obviously.
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fil2 07-Jun-2006 12:56

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Originally Posted by Jools
Cheers Phil, I'll look out for the tiger stuff

(Note to self: Must get better at blocking Ushiro Mawashi Geri's)


advise : u dont block them..Tai Sabiki....u moove out of the way....most Ushiro mawashis have alot of generated power due to body mass even if executed poorly.........cos if caught by one they hurt ...right..!!! hehehe..

tai sabaki is the key my young padawan........................

Phil

antonye 07-Jun-2006 13:13

Talking of which, my 11-y-o nephew got his black belt last week!

To complicate things he had broken his collar bone 3 weeks ago, but managed to pull through in time. Just couldn't break the boards, but he passed.

fil2 07-Jun-2006 14:24

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Originally Posted by antonye
Talking of which, my 11-y-o nephew got his black belt last week!

To complicate things he had broken his collar bone 3 weeks ago, but managed to pull through in time. Just couldn't break the boards, but he passed.


Taekwondo then Ant..?...at a guess.?......

antonye 07-Jun-2006 14:32

Erm...

Kuk Sool? Is that right? It's a Korean thing, I know that.

He now has a black suit with a silver lining. Looks pretty smart!

Jools 07-Jun-2006 14:43

All I know is that a Ushiro Mawashi from someone who is a higher grade than me looks like an ordinary Mawashi to start with, so I tried to block Shuto, missed the block and then as the guys heel came back hard for the Ushiro bit it caught the tips of my fingers end on - just like I'd rammed my extended fingers into a wall, the whole dojo heard the crack :(

Could've been your nephew I was sparring with Ant...he was a black belt, but he wasn't very old - probably 15 or so. Still, quite tall for his age and a lot, lot faster than an old giffer like me....beaten up by a kid...oh, the shame.

Ray 07-Jun-2006 14:43

Jools,

Time to practice those clutchless changes going up the box. You BHCN lot only ever come back down the box once...................................at the end of a ride!!

It is possible to do em coming down the box as well with a bit of practice as well.

The bike boxes are all dog types so don't come to any harm unless you are really clumsy with 'em.

Just coming up with some ideas as an alternative to painkillers cos most say don't go drinking on em!??

Ray.

Jools 07-Jun-2006 14:46

Hmmmm....Drink or painkillers....drink it is then :D

Always use clutchless up changes (apart from 1st to 2nd), but I do like to give it a good blip on the way down

Rob B 07-Jun-2006 15:08

Jools,

Back to the topic.......

You can take Paracetamol for the pian and Ibuprofen for the inflamation. They are not contra-indicated so you can take them both at the same time.

rgds, Rob

fil2 07-Jun-2006 15:10

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Originally Posted by antonye
Erm...

Kuk Sool? Is that right? It's a Korean thing, I know that.

He now has a black suit with a silver lining. Looks pretty smart!


Yeah i believe its a form of Teakwondo ....Korea developed Taekwondo it is the " art of Kicking "........

antonye 07-Jun-2006 15:12

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Originally Posted by fil2
Yeah i believe its a form of Teakwondo ....Korea developed Taekwondo it is the " art of Kicking "........


I know nothing about it, but he's pretty good. He was European champ two years ago at the age of nine in the under 13s category!

fil2 07-Jun-2006 15:14

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Originally Posted by Jools
All I know is that a Ushiro Mawashi from someone who is a higher grade than me looks like an ordinary Mawashi to start with, so I tried to block Shuto, missed the block and then as the guys heel came back hard for the Ushiro bit it caught the tips of my fingers end on - just like I'd rammed my extended fingers into a wall, the whole dojo heard the crack :(

Could've been your nephew I was sparring with Ant...he was a black belt, but he wasn't very old - probably 15 or so. Still, quite tall for his age and a lot, lot faster than an old giffer like me....beaten up by a kid...oh, the shame.


arrrrr....then !! i think that is what i would call a Gagu mawashi or hook kick..summit different to an ushiro...........yeah u gotta block them just not with your fingers.....heheheehhehe

fil2 07-Jun-2006 15:16

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Originally Posted by antonye
I know nothing about it, but he's pretty good. He was European champ two years ago at the age of nine in the under 13s category!



excellent.....i have competed at european level and know how hard it is....its great experience for him...............

hope he keep at it and does not get too distracted by wine women and song like so many promising martial artists do....

antonye 07-Jun-2006 15:20

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Originally Posted by fil2
excellent.....i have competed at european level and know how hard it is....its great experience for him...............

hope he keep at it and does not get too distracted by wine women and song like so many promising martial artists do....


Yes, he's been doing since a very young age - about 5 or 6 I think, so we're hopefully looking at a future champ if he does stick with it.

Despite his age he's actually got a string of girlfriends and is quite a hit with the ladies.

Takes after his uncle ;)

fil2 07-Jun-2006 15:32

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Originally Posted by antonye
Takes after his uncle ;)


He got two uncles then.....................................hehehe

mogwai 07-Jun-2006 17:30

Cuprofen.....its the kippers tits.

phillc 07-Jun-2006 18:10

I'm still getting over my knee reconstruction 6 weeks ago, but I've been back riding now for about 2 weeks. My regime is the following:

- 3 Ibupfrofin tablets each day. One roughly every 8 hours. These not only beat pain, but they are also anti-inflammatory, which will help swelling.

- Massage with Tiger Balm red each evening. This is applying heat.

- After the massage, apply ice. Actually I have a special cryo-cuff thing that I wear.


- Gym maybe twice per week on the stationay bike and step machine.

- I'm also having physio twice per week.

I'm finding that riding, with knee bent sharply, is getting much easier. I think holding the leg bent in a painful position for an extended period of time is a very good thing as it increases the knee's range. But this has to be followed up with ice to reduce swelling.

My tuppence worth.


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