How Much Does it Cost to Race in Desmodue?
 

For me, £3584.50 so far.

I'm sure it could have been done cheaper than that, but I've tried to be pretty honest about my expenditure and included every thing that was bought for "racing."

An excel spreadsheet detailing my costs and some more insight as to what the money was spent on and how the bike was set up can be found here - http://kapitalmoto.co.uk/node/101

Given my initial results you may not wish to follow my set up preparation proceedure to the letter! Then again, I'm sure that the bike is fine and that the rider needs further enhancements.

Good read mate,not sure I will let the wife read that yet!!!!
I told her DD was cheap racing,and i've still got loads to do on the bike before next year yet!!lol

You have??

I thought it was race ready Ian? :eek:

When are you out next?

yep,its no way near race ready yet...

it needs new fairing and seat unit!!!!what is on there, is no good..
clip ons...
oil cooler,and lines...
front suspension....
rear sets...
then respray...
hoping to get a van this week..

but going to orlando in september,so going to have a good holiday first....
then when i get back,will do a few trackdays to get back into it,and to get a good feel for the bike!!!

Whats up with the fairing? Apart from Glyns painting lol

Blimey. Good luck with it dude.

Enjoy Yankee Doodle Land - git! ;)

there are far to many nuts and bolts holding it together,think i counted 12 each side of the fairing,and thats without the top part.......it will be ok for trackdays,and testing this year.....

but would rather have duzs faster on the new fairing,plus the seat unit wasnt on very well,like i say its ok for testing.but will change it for racing..

where did you get the sticker done for the bike,i really like them!! would like to get some more made!!

They are just normal vinyl cut ones ordered off the internet, however my mate Andy at ANR Performance UK has sticker cutting and printing capabilitys

http://www.anrperformanceuk.co.uk/

He printed all the stickers / photo's on the Scooter Shop van if you saw it? Give him a ring and he'll sort you out

done mine for a hell of a lot cheeper and i did a lot of the work you done and i got on to the grid for less than £2000 and by the end of the season with enty fees and track days etc ill have spent £3000 i can spot a load of place where you could of saved money

being a tight yorkshire man

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...ad.php?t=29993

if any one wants a brake down of what iv done just drop me a u2u or email i must be on the tightest bugets going and iv managed to do a lot of work to the bike and get some track days in

My budgets tighter :D

Just rushed out to garage where i keep my book of costs. The wife's just asked if i'm ok, she says i look a bit white! If i'm feeling brave i'll post my cost total at the end of the season.

thats all easy stuff dude....one day in the garage..its just bolt on goodies..the work will come when u start stripping the engine.!..hehehehe..........

I cant wait to have you on the DD grid dude..................its gonna be fun

Phil

thanks mate will do..

yeah its not to bad,just need to take it easy on the bike, intill i come back from my holiday.
most of that stuff i will get over the winter.........


hopefully Crusty, is going to be stripping my engine...but dont tell him that yet!!!!lol

cant wait to get on that Grid...should be good fun..

Phillc,

I reckon mine on being half the cost of yours Phil, I think I can get on the 'Gucci Class' grid for that,

I'll tot it all up tonight and list it,

Andy

The cheapest way is to buy a bike ready done and sell at end of year for very little loss. Add on the entries and other costs and you could prob do a season for around £2-£2.5k....of course none of us do this LOL

I can't understand all those people stripping their engines... ... ... :lol:

Did the whole of last season for a little over £3k including buying and preping the bike.
This year I'm looking at a budget of £2k for racing in Class B with last years bike.
The Class A bike is nearly ready, having cost me £2200 so far but then I have a lot of bits left that I could sell on, which could easily reduce the cost by £400. So I hope to have it race ready for a net price of £2k

Then I can look at selling my 583 Class B bike at the end of the year and recovering some of that outlay

For those that have look at my expenses spreadsheet and say "I've done it cheaper," I'd really like to know how.

Given that this is the first time I've ever raced, there are some things that I couldn't avoid buying - like a one piece suit. And I think I got a pretty good deal on the suit that I did end up purchasing.

Perhaps I could have somehow modified the standard road fairings and not bought specific track fairings. But I did buy them already colour impregnated to save on the cost of spraying them.

Sure, there's been a few little things that I've bought that in retrospect I could have done without, but I honestly think they'd only add up to around £100 to £150. And of course I can re-coup some of this cost by trying to sell on the road kit.

Could I have done without a back protector and saved £90? Yes. But would I want to race without one? No.

Could I have not bought new boots for £140 and kept using my existing road boots? Yes. Would I have needed a new pair anyway after I finished putting holes in my road ones? Yes.

Could I have raced at Oulton without doing a track day, saving probably £200 in total? Yes. Would my results have been even worse, given that I had never been to the track or even ridden the bike previously? Yes.

The only money I've spent that was truly "waste" was 2.5 hours labour getting the electrics fixed after I screwed them up removing the Datatool alarm.

Truly, I'd be really interested in how and where I could have saved money. Any ideas appreciated.

I've actually just done a breakdown now of the costs into various areas:

Bike & Parts = £2,271

Track Days & Race Fees = £488

Memberships = £129

Clothing & Accessories = £551

Sundries (Fuel, Garage rent etc) = £275

Total = £3714

I'd forgotten to add in the New Era Entry Fee for Oulton, so this is the new total figure.

As you can see, I haven't spent all that much on the bike itself, but everything else does add up and I feel this figure actually represents the true cost of racing to date.

I think your budget is fine mate, people like to forget stuff "here and there" to make them think racing is cheaper than it is. Racing is bl00dy expensive, as all motorsports are. That's a fact. I've stopped counting what it costed me, made me feel too sick. And my bike is basic, most expensive parts are the Ohlins and radial master cylinder which costed me £350 together...

I'm not taking part in the next round, Donington. It will make me save about £400 (race entry + trackday + petrol costs). How cheap is that?

The only motogp track in this country and you're not doing it !!!!!!!!

You HAVE to do it :)

Last time (only time) I did it, it was for last year's DD round. it was raining and I crashed. Since that, each time I watched some racing at Donington (MotoGP, BSB,...) it was raining and a lot of racers crashed.

I hate that track. :)

Tonio....Noooo! Do Donington, you HAVE to! I'm probably dropping Snett for fear of making the bike pop before the last round, but there's no way I'd sit Donny out...it's the best track we go to!

Nope,it's Assen. :D

Btw sorry to hijack your thread Phill... To come back to it, I do think your figures are right and you didn't do much wrong :)

It pays to keep careful track of your racing costs and budget realistically. Never be fooled by the real cost of racing. I've just added up the cost of putting together my 800ss race bike so far. Including the purchase price of the bike, so far it has cost £8500.35 and it's not even finished yet.

I reckon I still have another £2000 or so to fully finish it in preparation to the level I want for next season proper although technically I can race it now.

This year alone I expect to pay £1000 in entries, approx' £1000 in tyres plus all the other incidentals like food, race fuel, accomodation costs for the three meetings that I am using for setup so, I am looking at an end of season bill for around £12500! Oh lordy!

Next year I intend to do about 10 MRO meetings so....

Entry fees: ~£1800
Race fuel: ~£500
Diesel: ~£600
Tyres: ~£2500
Oil: ~£200
2 x service: ~£1000
2 sets of pads: ~£140
1 chain : ~£100
Sprockets: ~£100
Practice: ~£1200
Misc maint': ~£250
Van insurance: ~£300
Van tax: ~£150
Van servicing: ~£250
Van tyres: ~£200
Boots: ~£150
Gloves: ~£150
Helmet: ~£300

total ~ £10,000

So, I'm looking at a total cost of about £22k by the end of next year which, is broadly similar to what two years on the SV650 in Minitwins cost me.

This excludes crash repairs, more dyno testing or any other unforeseens. Most people seriously underestimate how much it costs and how much they spend. I'm by no means extravagant and some lads I know put fresh tyres on every race day which means £500 or so per weekend in tyres alone. I tend to make mine stretch from practice, through qualifying and then racing although, by race 2 on a Sunday they are past their best.

Mind you - what a rush. :)

when we were in castle coombe i was talking to a young lad and his day at were in 125 acu star and theyhas a buget of £21000 they got £12000 in sponsership but still a lot just to race a 125

have you won the lotterly i wish i had that much to race with

cost to race.
 

It depends on how good you want the bike to be, it needs to be above all things safe & reliable & kept that way all sesson, imho I don't think you could do 620 classA competivley for less than £3-£4k

My bike cost about £5k all in, but a large chunk of that was the 6-speed 'box + fitting. This season won't see much change from £5k, and a fair amount more from lost earnings for track days etc....

In my whole life I'd reckon on spending approx £4.5m ( :o ). £20k for three seasons racing? How cheap??? :D

iv just added up everything iv spent on racing this year and it comes in under £4500 but like i say

i did buget £2000 on getting a bike and sorting it spent so far £1800 inc tyres, fairing bike cost £1000 off ebay

bugeted £1500 on race fees and licence and should come to about this at the end of the season that fuel in my car entry fees and fuel for the bike

so like i say im sure can do it for £3000

also put £1000 to one side for crashes and trackdays and so far crashed twice cost of £200 and 3 trackdays £380 and assen at £250 ferry fuel race fees split it with frend that came with me

cost of my car and triler and insurance was covered by the sale of my road bike

buget for next year stands at £2500 for all race fees, licence, transport, few trackdays and assen (i hope) as im back at university

Reckon i've spent about £1k this year on both bikes ( including prepping Dessie from a road to race bike) Oh and including Assen :)

Graeme got a 10th with Dessie in only his 3rd meeting - worth the pennies I think.

blimey - we have budgeted £600 for the 7 meetings this year, and the total is likely to be coming in at £585 for diesel (ok,Assen cost £125 of that tho).
Then with TD's added too it is virtually doubled.
Over £1k just to get the bikes about (and thats without the £70+ for the Cadwell TD in Aug).

Nigel, am envious you dont have so far to travel:alien:

Factoring in the bike fuel for two bikes is too stressing for me at the moment, tho I can see it blazing out at me on my spreadsheet:eek:

god knows where u lot get your figures from................

Cost of a front running class A bike is no less than 3k..........( some as much as 5k .! )

7 meetings at average 140 entry = £980

1 meeting assen = with fuel accomodation and entry + trackday £ 300

2 sets tyres = £300

Fuel for bike and van/car = £600

Trackdays practise average 3 with fuel etc = £700

Now add in the crash damadge the uprgades say = £350

Thats over 6K for one season and thats being conservative as i know peeps that do alot more than 3 track days and run more than 2 sets of tyres...and have spent alot omore on bikes etc etc........

6k............

dont kid yourselves

Exactly why im not gonna be Racing at Snetterton....................

Well, baring in mind I haven't had to build a bike, and I already had everything I needed (kit wise etc) my budget is between £3000 - £4000 depending on crash damage, and not including memberships etc.

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Well put Dom, those look pretty similar to mine, except we have double the bike petrol costs. (mind you, we didnt half use a lot earleir this year, tho not as much as expected at Oulton tho)
We dont keep a full log of spares costs, cos as you know AK carries a few;) about anyway, but we also have an 'emergency slush fund' of about £300 for any other bits needed quickly.

Fil, I think many others forget all the 'consumable' costs.
I'm just happy that the riders pay their entries & TD costs:)

Ur having a larf aintya?

I live in the far north. Brands in 300+ miles
Pembrey is 400+ miles.
Lydden is 350 miles.

These are each way. I strictly keep my speedo at 60mph to save fuel and cos I'm on my own. :lol:

I probably travel further than anyone on a regular basis. Last year I travelled as far north as Knockhill and down to Pembrey - only missing the Brands MRO round due to illness.


.....in fact looking at it again I think I am under-budgeting my diesel costs Oh joy! More expense! :lol: I'll allow £1000 then.

Nope. I fund it mostly out of my pocket - had a bit of help last year but, not much. I don't drink, I don't go out and I live a very modest lifestyle to fund it.

Nige - we are 3 & half hours from Oulton & Cadwell tho on a clear run, and about 3 from Donny - and thats if we dont have to take detours/get stuck in traffic.
Brands is our nearby one, which should take about 45/50 mins, tho can take up to 2 hours motorway permitting. Even dear old Castle is 2+ hours, so for us, the tracks are mostly all 'oop norf' and we need oxygen masks:lol:
Van fuel roughtly works out about £10.50 per hour, unless 'sir' has the bee in his bonnet, then consumption goes up quite a bit:o