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domski 13-Jul-2006 21:34

DESMODUE - Ideas/suggestions for 2007?
 
Do you have any ideas/suggestions for DD in 2007?

How can we make it better?

kye 13-Jul-2006 21:38

Superpole!.... Oh wait we already have that!

domski 13-Jul-2006 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by kye
Superpole!.... Oh wait we already have that!


:lol: Except nobody knew until it was too late :(

AK 13-Jul-2006 22:48

open class a for national licence holders properly, not just limited to those who have already raced in the series. would open this section up a tad.

keep class b for novice and clubman licence.

and dont make the top 3 in the champ points in 583 'have' to move up? surely they will want to go up of their own accord?

publish that the rules for mech that will definatley not be changed for 2007 NOW to stop any fannying about over the winter. I cant see any reason not to change them.

choose when to start the season by the end of this one and dont change it again

only have rider votes at race meetings if really needed

get people on the rc who have the time to devote to coming to the meetings. not demeaning the present one but they have had a lot of other things happening.

just a few of my thorts but its just my ideas.

dom, you make me larf:D

domski 13-Jul-2006 22:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK
open class a for national licence holders properly, not just limited to those who have already raced in the series. would open this section up a tad.


Blimey, do we want fast people in DD? ;)

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publish that the rules for mech that will definatley not be changed for 2007 NOW to stop any fannying about over the winter. I cant see any reason not to change them.

Agreed.

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dom, you make me larf :D

Oh dear :lol:

domski 13-Jul-2006 23:05

Can we get the New Era trophies as well as the Ducati ones? I think we pay the same entry fees as everyone else. Maybe Ducati would like to provide something else? Something different to a plastic trophy - I dunno, T-shirts or caps or sumfing? ;)

It's not that I'm a trophy hunter you understand - I just happen to like ummmm, cups?

How about some Pirelli caps as well?

It's nice to get something other than a 10 minute rush, for your £300 a weekend. Small items won't bust the bank of these companies will it?

Is that cheeky? I dunno. I think the DSC and DD are great adverts for any company. We can offer a lot - we DO offer a lot. Spread the love ;)

Give out prizes down the field. Ride of the day? Best newcomer/novice? Best impression of a bird of prey?

andys 900ss 13-Jul-2006 23:06

Alan,

I agree with everything you say!!!

Can't wait to be a proper DD'r next year...

Andy

kye 13-Jul-2006 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by domski
Can we get the New Era trophies as well as the Ducati ones? I think we pay the same entry fees as everyone else. Maybe Ducati would like to provide something else? Something different to a plastic trophy - I dunno, T-shirts or caps or sumfing? ;)

It's not that I'm a trophy hunter you understand - I just happen to like ummmm, cups?

How about some Pirelli caps as well?

It's nice to get something other than a 10 minute rush, for your £300 a weekend. Small items won't bust the bank of these companies will it?

Is that cheeky? I dunno. I think the DSC and DD are great adverts for any company. We can offer a lot - we DO offer a lot. Spread the love ;)

Give out prizes down the field. Ride of the day? Best newcomer/novice? Best impression of a bird of prey?


Holbeach were giving us Pirelli Caps, and if you entered 583 you'd be winning a scooter, but tis your own fault :P

domski 13-Jul-2006 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by kye
Holbeach were giving us Pirelli Caps


Were they? What happened to that then?

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and if you entered 583 you'd be winning a scooter

Yeah, that's an amazing prize from a tiny business. Well done Glyn & Kirsty :D

phillc 14-Jul-2006 07:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by domski
How about some Pirelli caps as well?


No, no, no. What we want are Pirelli Calendars. For everyone. So we don't, ummm, miss the start of the season, that's it yes. My garage wall certainly needs the 2007 Pirelli Calendar to help me focus on the job "in hand."

Otei 14-Jul-2006 08:26

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Best impression of a bird of prey

I can do an unladen European Swallow?

wait, that sounds a bit iffy!

On a serious note, what will happen now that the capacity of the Monster has been hiked up to 695?

Obviously the old big bore rules wern't particularly satisfactory due (sic) to the size of the valves in the engine, but things would be different with the new bike.

The thing is, that you'll have to include the new bike, as it is the latest model, and also, the older 620 i.e models will start to get in short supply. Mind you, they're the exact same price as a 695 :confused:

The 695 seems to have been built down to that price though, and only has the cheaper calipers as found on the sport classics, not the ex 916 brakes of the 620 and earlier models. Maybe that weakness, plus the retaining of the standard shock might be enough to negate any power advantage?

Just a thought, wouldn't want to decide to race in the series next year, then get told that the brand new 620 i just bought was going to be immediately outgunned by the 695 that ws now allowed in.

fil2 14-Jul-2006 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK
open class a for national licence holders properly, not just limited to those who have already raced in the series. would open this section up a tad.

keep class b for novice and clubman licence.

and dont make the top 3 in the champ points in 583 'have' to move up? surely they will want to go up of their own accord?

publish that the rules for mech that will definatley not be changed for 2007 NOW to stop any fannying about over the winter. I cant see any reason not to change them.

choose when to start the season by the end of this one and dont change it again

only have rider votes at race meetings if really needed



Gets my vote...

Tonio600 14-Jul-2006 08:37

untimed practice? no way? ok I forget that... :(

fil2 14-Jul-2006 08:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otei
I can do an unladen European Swallow?

wait, that sounds a bit iffy!

On a serious note, what will happen now that the capacity of the Monster has been hiked up to 695?

Obviously the old big bore rules wern't particularly satisfactory due (sic) to the size of the valves in the engine, but things would be different with the new bike.

The thing is, that you'll have to include the new bike, as it is the latest model, and also, the older 620 i.e models will start to get in short supply. Mind you, they're the exact same price as a 695 :confused:

The 695 seems to have been built down to that price though, and only has the cheaper calipers as found on the sport classics, not the ex 916 brakes of the 620 and earlier models. Maybe that weakness, plus the retaining of the standard shock might be enough to negate any power advantage?

Just a thought, wouldn't want to decide to race in the series next year, then get told that the brand new 620 i just bought was going to be immediately outgunned by the 695 that ws now allowed in.


why do we have to have the 695...??...the 620 offers competative racing and are fast enough for any of us......there are enough bikes in the market place to support spares for a long time yet....plenty of performance parts etc etc....

IF we have a 695 class the only people that will prolly enter it are 620 riders!!..leading to less again in 620.....i cant see anyone who wants to enter the DD saying " im not gonna enter cos there is no 695 "..no of course not.......

Keep it simple 620 OR 583 we struggle enough to get the numbers..let alone if we add a 3rd class.........................

Phil

Otei 14-Jul-2006 08:46

I guess you don't have to have the new bike in the series, and you're right, there'll be plenty of used bikes and spares for use in the series I suppose.

I'm not concerned either way, I just wondered if anyone had any clarification of what the rules were going to be. It's just that I'd have thought the series organisers would want to keep up to date with what is happening machinery wise.

The simpler the better as far as I'm concerned. :)

Tonio600 14-Jul-2006 08:49

The series doesn't need to be kept up to date, there are all other series for that.
DD needs to remain affordable and friendly, that's the most important points.

fil2 14-Jul-2006 09:05

[quote=Otei]I guess you don't have to have the new bike in the . It's just that I'd have thought the series organisers would want to keep up to date with what is happening machinery wise.

QUOTE]

Why would they.?..its our race series .!....the 620 monster is current !...and as Tonio quite rightly said , there are other series to run in if anyone wanted to run a current bike..the 695 is eligble for MT....or SoT

DD ..583 / 620.....affordable..simple...fast..competative...i ts a formula that works..ok we dont get 2 grids but we still field 40 bikes....how many other classes do that...................

we forget at time that we have a succesfull series ..

Phil

Rattler 14-Jul-2006 09:20

Wot he sed !!!

Its our series, and we can decide what bikes we want in it. At the moment I see no need to include 695 bikes in it. This would only dilute the 620 entries.

Tim

Otei 14-Jul-2006 10:46

Errrmmmmm...............

LOOK!..a kitten!



TP 14-Jul-2006 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otei
Errrmmmmm...............

LOOK!..a kitten!




Oh isn't it cute!!

I like kittens :D

antonye 14-Jul-2006 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by TP
Oh isn't it cute!!

I like kittens :D


Yeah, deep fried are bestest.

TP 14-Jul-2006 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by antonye
Yeah, deep fried are bestest.


Mmmmm, with a sweet chilli dipping sauce!

Iconic944ss 14-Jul-2006 11:48

Totally, totally unbiased suggestion.

COME TO CROFT

:devil::devil::devil:

stumpy1 14-Jul-2006 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by AK
open class a for national licence holders properly, not just limited to those who have already raced in the series. would open this section up a tad.

keep class b for novice and clubman licence.

and dont make the top 3 in the champ points in 583 'have' to move up? surely they will want to go up of their own accord?

publish that the rules for mech that will definatley not be changed for 2007 NOW to stop any fannying about over the winter. I cant see any reason not to change them.

choose when to start the season by the end of this one and dont change it again

only have rider votes at race meetings if really needed

get people on the rc who have the time to devote to coming to the meetings. not demeaning the present one but they have had a lot of other things happening.

just a few of my thorts but its just my ideas.

dom, you make me larf:D


What he said!!

stumpy1 14-Jul-2006 11:57

[quote=fil2]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Otei
I guess you don't have to have the new bike in the . It's just that I'd have thought the series organisers would want to keep up to date with what is happening machinery wise.

QUOTE]

Why would they.?..its our race series .!....the 620 monster is current !...and as Tonio quite rightly said , there are other series to run in if anyone wanted to run a current bike..the 695 is eligble for MT....or SoT

DD ..583 / 620.....affordable..simple...fast..competative...i ts a formula that works..ok we dont get 2 grids but we still field 40 bikes....how many other classes do that...................

we forget at time that we have a succesfull series ..

Phil


thats my thinking!!

Grib 14-Jul-2006 12:10

Awww a kitten :D :D

What were we talking about? Oh, racing, right ;)

I think it's been said. Keep the format as it is now, don't force the top boys out of 583 if they don't wanna go, sod the 695s off :) And you can only come and play if you're gonna share in the super loveliness of the DD paddock, no grumpy sods need apply :)

dickieducati 14-Jul-2006 14:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic944ss
Totally, totally unbiased suggestion.

COME TO CROFT

:devil::devil::devil:


pins and eyes

weeksy2 14-Jul-2006 14:12

You have to remember guys....

It's not just YOUR series.... it's the CLUBS series...

and the CLUB are backed by DUCATI UK.

If Ducati UK want the 695's in there... who's going to deny them ?

domski 14-Jul-2006 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by weeksy2
You have to remember guys....

It's not just YOUR series.... it's the CLUBS series...

and the CLUB are backed by DUCATI UK.

If Ducati UK want the 695's in there... who's going to deny them ?


It's not happening in 2007 - so it's a redundant arguement.

Incidently, if WE don't turn up - there isn't a series to belong to anyone is there ;)

weeksy2 14-Jul-2006 14:18

I never said it was Dom, i was responding to the posts above about 695.

You could say the same about ANY class in ANY series in ANY club.

domski 14-Jul-2006 14:22

695's will NOT be racing in 2007.

We already have 2 classes which can't get their own grid - why not dilute it further and have a 695 class as well - just to ensure that everyone is equally pi$$ed off?

Dominic Clegg 14-Jul-2006 14:29

i want to go to croft as well

any way whats the time table for sorting out next year we could have a meeting with riders and MT to sort this out i.e.when to get rules sorted by when to get tracks sorted by we could do this at a race meeting when we are all together.

i dont think ducati will push for us to race 695. its the brand ducati are interested in and we do a great deal with that.

i think the biggest thing we can do to improve dd is to get more riders invloved

Red bull up date :

had a meeting with them today and they seem very keen to help us out with a lot of little thing like lots of free red bull to riders and trophies and way next meeting is in december so i need to put together a presentation for them showing off how good dd is how we can promote there company and what they can do for us.

TP 14-Jul-2006 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otei
Errrmmmmm...............

LOOK!..a kitten!




Did anyone see this kitten before?

:D

TP 14-Jul-2006 14:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Clegg
i want to go to croft as well

any way whats the time table for sorting out next year we could have a meeting with riders and MT to sort this out i.e.when to get rules sorted by when to get tracks sorted by we could do this at a race meeting when we are all together.

i dont think ducati will push for us to race 695. its the brand ducati are interested in and we do a great deal with that.

i think the biggest thing we can do to improve dd is to get more riders invloved

Red bull up date :

had a meeting with them today and they seem very keen to help us out with a lot of little thing like lots of free red bull to riders and trophies and way next meeting is in december so i need to put together a presentation for them showing off how good dd is how we can promote there company and what they can do for us.


Good work mate, I like your style.

I do the odd presentation here and there for work so if you need a hand just let me know.

Cheers dude.

Grib 14-Jul-2006 14:51

Awesome, nice work Dom C. If you need any help, give me a shout, I'm sure I can put some words and stuff together :)

Further distractions for naughty people, wanna see my puppies??
















:p

couchcommando 14-Jul-2006 14:51

Here's a novel idea lets just turn up and race :)

Thank God some of you don't put the same effort into racing as you do moaning.....;);) Lap records would tumble LMAO

stumpy1 14-Jul-2006 14:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grib
Awesome, nice work Dom C. If you need any help, give me a shout, I'm sure I can put some words and stuff together :)

Further distractions for naughty people, wanna see my puppies??











:p



the tan one looks like my dog when it was a puppie,they dont stay like that for very long!!

stumpy1 14-Jul-2006 14:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchcommando
Here's a novel idea lets just turn up and race :)

Thank God some of you don't put the same effort into racing as you do moaning.....;);) Lap records would tumble LMAO



well said!!! next year, i dont care who will be on the grid with me,all i want to do is race!!!!!!

couchcommando 14-Jul-2006 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy1
well said!!! next year, i dont care who will be on the grid with me,all i want to do is race!!!!!!


Surely if you're on a 620 and a 583 is hassling you then drop behind them and learn from them, then when you've learnt use your hp advantage and smoke them :)

I just don't care, the series is great. Trying to get grids where no one on a faster bike gets in your way is ridiculous. I raced most of last year with a 25hp disadvantage, should I have complained about it ?
DD is the closest you'll get at club level to fixed hp and equal bikes and as such makes it as equal as it's ever gonna be :)

fil2 14-Jul-2006 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpy1
well said!!! next year, i dont care who will be on the grid with me,all i want to do is race!!!!!!



U say that now m8....when you are 4th lets say and u cant get passed the 3 fast 583's to challenge for 3rd spot podium place.....

THEN U will give a ****..until then shut up.. u aint raced dd yet so therefore dont have an opinion..if u wanted to race you could now ..so just step up or step off........................


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