awsome.....
 

....now I've had the fim fitted seems much better, more responsive

...havnet been out and blatted in anger yet, but the few rideouts I've had over the last couple of weeks have reminded me what a race bike these things are!!


Whaoo......dont know if I'll be able to let her go now.........she looks so purdy and rides like a thoroughbred!

Bradders, keep it. You know you'll regret it if you let it go just when you've got it all sorted. ;)

Next time you're out mate i'll show you what power and performance is ;)


I'll be in the 306 :)

weeksy - look forward to it ;)

be surprised if your R1 is any quicker..after all Jap 150bhp is really only 115 anyway :p

and we ALL know dukes have more torque..........or is that talk?!

I think you may be about to astound yourself fella.

The only problem is that i need a long road to allow it to open up past 8,000rpm :)

Actually, Dukes don't have more torque at all. The torquiest supersports bike built thus far was the GSXR1000K1. The difference is the the Duke makes more torque lower in the rev range. It does, however, run out of puff big time in the higher rev ranges in comparison to a Jap thou.

You and Weeksy might have a lot of fun out talking each other though! ;-)

Jen.

Are the brakes **** then or poor throttle response:lol:

Been thinking of taking a test ride on one of the latest crop of litre bikes from Japan just to compare with the 998r. If the throttle response and low end Torque match the 998 I'll be surprised. The only other thing to put me off is the big wide fule tank, I don't like the splayed leg riding position, that most seem to have from sitting on em all at the NEC.

Ray

LOL .... well yeah the brakes are actually... but i've got a new set of pads arriving...

Ray, feel free to ride mine anytime fella... it's not 'current crop' ....

Low end torque... hmmmm depends on how you think of it... the Ducati have a GRUNT that the R1 doesn't 'seem' to have... but i'd be amazed if thery were on a dyno and showed different figures...

not looking at the figs desmojen..even the latest R1 is only claimng 78.5lb..and I guess this is at the crank what at the rear wheel??

My 98sps is producing 77 rw...am sure 98R/99R is more....and it doesnt make max power til 10750, not that I ever go THAT far east on the rev counter!!

havent ridden an R1 for years...we'll have to have a swap weeksy :)

Anytime you like mate.. i've never ridden a powerful Ducati... i must admit, i'm curious about them too (although i don't forsee myself owning one for many many moons)

I'm basing my reply on claimed figures from manufacturers. I don't know if you're bike is standard or not either. According to Ducatis own claims the 996R gives out 75 torques, this, in fact, is virtually identical to weeksys R1 which claims 77.
The gixxers on the other hand claim between 81 and 87.
I've ridden with a fellow on a 999 (albeit while I was running mine in) and can confirm that in the lower revs (4-6k) the 999 had more stomp. As soon as you get above that it cannot hold a candle unless you have a lot of money to throw at it.
You will probably find that the R1 is reasonably closely matched but that's because R1's are for girls!

Lol, yep, complete girls bike

Like Weeksy said though, the main problem isn't having all that power, it's finding somewhere that you can use it all.

I wonder where you could keep any litre bike pinned all the way through the gears? I guess that would make most A & B road scratching fun :eek: I guess you either keep the revs down or just use three gears

The last R1 I rode was Whele's and that ain't no snail however I never had any problem's staying with him on my 999R or vice versa - straight line only mind - and we were'nt hanging around.

Obviously Gary is way more accomplished than me on the twisties but then someone way more accomplished than me would easily stick with him on a 999R on those twisties.

I liked the R1 but the power delivery is completely different to the 999R and therefore, dare I suggest it, not as enjoyable or usable than the 999R - or is it just familiarity on my part.

At the end of the day - I was at Foxes last night (which, strictly speaking, was at the end of yesterday actually :lol: ) and out of 300+ bikes there was 1 X 999R :D , 1 X 996 SPS and a couple of 996's of other specs. There were dozens of R1s, moreso than any evident Fireblades, Kwaks or K6s, oh and the crowd was round the 999R as always :smug: even in its neglected stated.

Power isn't everything.

oh god...we're into mines bigger than yours!!

FANTASTIC!

R1's for girls.....well I saw a couple out on Sunday and they werre ridden by girls, maybe theres something in that ;)

arent Dukes quoted at the wheel and Japs at the crank?? Cant remember seeing (other than the 2006 models) a test which had any over them over 80...ready to be corrected :D

As I said power (size) isn't everything!

Lol, at least someone gets my comments in context!
I couldn't find any tests in my mags which were in ftlb, they were all in Nm, but they has the 999s at 98 and all the jap thous over 100.
Another improtant factor is weight, Dukes are pretty heavy. Whilst I know that the japs overstate their weights (should that be understate?) there's no doubt that Dukes are heavier, and mostly overgeared as well.

At the end of the day, I'm playing devils advocate here, it makes little real difference out there on the roads, especially since rider skill plays such a huge part in it.

Jen.

P.S. Jools, you don't need much room for a thou when your name's not Weeksy mate! ;-)

I was quite happily staying with litre IL4's out of the hairpin at Jerez onto the start/finish straight - and they were quicker mid-corner then me. After we had reached 3rd or 4th they'd start to pull away but then we were in the braking zone quite quickly so made stuff all difference. I also had trouble keeping the front on the deck, I wouldn't have minded playing around with the gearing on it, maybe even going taller. That was on a bog standard 998R.

Shame I'm selling it ..

Don't these R1's drink a little oil ;)

LOL you boys are slaying me....

we're comparing a £3500 stock R1 with a 998R and a 999R for power.... LOL and the best you can give me is "i had no trouble sticking with it"

Come on gents... have a word.... we're talking 4 years and over £10,000 difference... i could by 6 of my bikes for what Everton paid for his :D :D :D


Jools, you're right fella, it's hard keeping them pinned and in some ways it does detract a little from the experience.... but i can live with that :)

but mine is a '98....ok 18k when new but then the R1 would be about £7k ish

think the question is what is more fun.....oh and more usable......oh and more tasteful smooth, sleek iconic 916 or cheap, mass produced jap clap trap!!

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firm tongue in cheek

Oooooh, (sharp intake of breath) don't start on the more usable bit Bradders, that's thin ice that one!

I once did 400 miles in a day on my 748 and returned home a near cripple from the oh so comfy riding position, and that's without mentioning the weight, the racket she made in town, the overheating at the drop of a hat, the slow slow steering, I could go on.........................

You could put it all down to character, you could say jap fours are bland because they do none of this, I'm not so sure...................

i got to agree Jennykins.....

i can do 30mph in 5th.... and 150mph in 5th.... both easily and comfortable (as i'm sure is the same for yours)

Useable... the big fellas are deffo that... especially compared to Ducatis.

It baffles me why people come on here and waffle on about how great their jap thou's are, especially turncoats like Steve and Jen.

We all know they make a zillion bhp and weigh less than a gnat.

Who gives a toss?

This is the DSC, we're all on here because we love our Ducatis, however slow / expensive / uncomfortable / unreliable they may be (relatively).

Take it to the YSC / KSC / HSC / SSC where they might care.

Oh - there isn't a YSC / KSC / HSC / SSC?

Turncoats ??? LOL Beanie... it's not an exclusive club of 'Ducati owners'... it's a club of motorcycle enthusiasts who for whatever reason have owned or will own a Ducati....

Turncoats... it's not like a football team or a political choice... it's a bloody vehicle...

Who gives a toss, well based upon most of the recent DSC meets i've attended and the fact we're seeing almost a 50-50 split these days of Jap machines.... Quite a lot of people :)

Sorry Steve, but just revisit the Home Page for a moment....

It says :-

DUCATI Sporting Club
The UK Club For Today's DUCATI Rider

It doesn't say :-

The UK Club for people who had a ducati once or know someone who's got one or who might get one someday if they can be bothered.

BC

Cool.... i still have one... it's a 748S in Ti and red.... that's ok then ?

Nice one......

Thought that was the wife's though?

Still counts as mine as i'm the only one who cleans it and does any work on it... Also in a few months time she's retiring from biking and it's then 100% mine :)

Fil has 2 Ducatis
Skids has several....

Just because someone changes from a Ducati doesn't make them less of a member... look at guys like WJB.... no longer has the Ducati, but is a passionate helper of DSC.... Or Whele who put on a TD for Us last year when he had his R1....

I'm with beanie...you should all be taken out and shot in the ass with salt, bathed in peanut butter for 1/2hr and forced to run naked down Henly high street in a feather bowa and flip flops.....maybe not Weeksy but Jen for sure ;)

i happen to like flip flops :)

The fact that non-ducati owners are attracted to a ducati message board just proves how unique and popular these bikes are. Any Ducati is a true attention grabber because it stands out compared to most other bikes.

I see no reason why we (Ducati owners) shouldn't take this as a complement and welcome everyone (irrespective of what bike they own) to this forum.

All of us Ducatisti tend to get a bit carried away with our bikes from time to time so I guess it's only healthy to get a fresh perspective from "the outside".

LOL which non-ducati owners are you on about fella ? All of the people getting their legs pulled in this thread either still own a Ducati or have not so long ago sold theirs.

We're not attracted here just because they are unique, we've been here years and years.

now that I can believe.....

Good for you :D

I guess I misinterpreted the situation. Sorry about that.

No need for apologies fella, all's fair in love and banter :)

Beany, I'm disappointed in you.
All I'm doing is having a little banter, mostly at Weeksys expense. There's no need to be an arse about it.
I owned nothing but Dukes for 4 years, then I moved on. If I had enough folding I'd own one now, there's little I'd like more than to have my flower back.
But not as a road bike because the fact of the matter is, most Dukes are ****e roadbikes. I say that as someone who has owned and loved them, not as some jealous turd who knows no better.
And yes, I will take my thoughts elsewhere.
Thanks.

Jen.

Jen - dont listen, possible mistaken sense of humour...and anyway I stil like the idea of you running down Henly high street drassed as described ;)

Lol, peanut butter bath sounds a laugh, but I'm not doing it unless Weeksy does too!
Perhaps to add further insult to our already mortally wounded egos we should be made to ride our Jap tat rather than run!

god no.....thats an embarrasment even weeksy shouldnt endure!!

I'm happy to take my svelte and sexy Physique down to my boxers any time you want a look at a real man Bradders... :)