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MJS 18-Jul-2006 14:35

eBay rules
 
What are the rules on this? Is this just a case of tough luck??

Bidding and winning an item which ends today, received this messsage/email from the seller a few minutes ago

'Sorry to be a pain but I have sold this item through MCN, would you please retract your bid Ta! '

Doesn't say anything about item being advertised elsewhere - bl**dy annoyed :mad: :mad:

khushy 18-Jul-2006 14:44

its just life!

Khushy

Jools 18-Jul-2006 14:52

Yeah, not much you can do with the old "this item is advertised elsewhere..." clause.

eBay used to be good, but I think it sucks now

antonye 18-Jul-2006 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban996
What are the rules on this? Is this just a case of tough luck??

Bidding and winning an item which ends today, received this messsage/email from the seller a few minutes ago

'Sorry to be a pain but I have sold this item through MCN, would you please retract your bid Ta! '

Doesn't say anything about item being advertised elsewhere - bl**dy annoyed :mad: :mad:


Selling regulations - you have made an offer but the buyer doesn't have to accept nor does he have to sell it to you.

That's just the way it works I'm afraid.

MJS 18-Jul-2006 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jools
Yeah, not much you can do with the old "this item is advertised elsewhere..." clause.

eBay used to be good, but I think it sucks now


If he'd put that clause in, I wouldn't mind, but he hasn't.... and there's only 6 hours remaining so I know he can't end the auction under ebay rules...

Sucks...

antonye 18-Jul-2006 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban996
If he'd put that clause in, I wouldn't mind, but he hasn't.... and there's only 6 hours remaining so I know he can't end the auction under ebay rules...

Sucks...


ebay "rules" are not law.

By law he has every right to withdraw an item without notice.

I wouldn't hold your breath if you wanted to test ebay rules in a courtroom!

dukess1999 18-Jul-2006 15:07

If you want to make life difficult for him you can let the auction run and he'll have to pay commission on the final price. More importantly you can leave feedback...

MJS 18-Jul-2006 15:18

I accept that ebay 'rules' are not law.

Just strikes me as a bit odd, that if I bid on an item I enter into (according to ebay) a legal contract to buy an item, but a seller can pull out at anytime??

What about if I haven't seen his email and win the item and go ahead and pay for it through paypal?? All seems a bit cr*ppy to me

MJS 18-Jul-2006 15:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukess1999
If you want to make life difficult for him you can let the auction run and he'll have to pay commission on the final price. More importantly you can leave feedback...


That's what I'm going to do - I don't want a 'bid retraction' on my history

antonye 18-Jul-2006 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban996
Just strikes me as a bit odd, that if I bid on an item I enter into (according to ebay) a legal contract to buy an item, but a seller can pull out at anytime??


IANAL, but that's not quite true...

The process is that you make an offer as a purchaser, and the seller can than either accept or reject that offer.

Should the seller accept your offer, you've then entered into a contract, at which point you must purchase the item.

Auctions are a bit funny because it includes a timed element (deadline) to which all offers are submitted. Until that deadline passes and the seller accepts your offer, there is no legally binding contract.

ebay just makes up their own rules to suit them - remember they get paid for the listing, get paid commission at the end and get a cut of the money if the transaction takes place using PayPal. It is in their interest for auctions to finish and not be withdrawn!

However, it is a bit *****, so I agree that you should keep your bid in ("but I didn't receive the email in time!") and let him worry about it. He can easily end the auction early if he knows where to look ... and again ebay hide this quite well as they want their cash!

Tonio600 18-Jul-2006 15:56

You can't end an auction which ends in less than 12 hours can you?

dukess1999 18-Jul-2006 16:26

Only if there are no bids on it.

MJS 18-Jul-2006 17:08

The auction is still running - my bid is still valid (3 hours or so to go at the moment). He ended other items that had no bids, but can't end the ones where there are bidders.

Bunny 18-Jul-2006 19:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonio600
You can't end an auction which ends in less than 12 hours can you?


Yes you can, but you have to cancel all bids first
It's all there if you know where to look

rockhopper 18-Jul-2006 20:08

Just say you've been out and didn't see his email till after the end of the auction.

Of course if you get the stage of leaving feedback then he can leave feedback for you as well.

Bionicle 19-Jul-2006 08:01

I got stung, won a 996 got a mail from the guy saying "congrats to you got your self a bargin" sorted out transfering the cash to my brother in the UK the same day, next day i got a mail saying "sorry but there have been a change in circumstances the bike is no longer for sale" now that sucked as i lost out on sending cash to the UK due to bank charges and exchange rates, could i do anything about it. NO all you can do is leave negative feed back :(

bike mad 21-Jul-2006 14:37

so dont ebay have the same laws as an auction, ?

MJS 21-Jul-2006 18:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bike mad
so dont ebay have the same laws as an auction, ?


Seems not... having calmed down i've let it go and put it down to experience... :(


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