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bradders 11-Aug-2006 19:24

so..are you gonna keep flying??
 
..I for one am happy that I cant afford a holiday abroad this year now....hols in the UK for me!! I'd be sat at an airport or have all my belongings in a platic bag wondering whats gonna happen next...

what next? or is it just to justify the war raging in the homeland of religion...

Tantrum992 11-Aug-2006 19:46

Shant be letting it stop me, i fly in eleven days and unless the airport tell me different im going.I refuse to let these w a n k e r s dictate my life, im happy to go along with the precations layed out such as no hand luggage and clear bags for my keys, passport and tickets. I know there are people that think that this is a stupid view but its my choice.......we have spoken at lenght about it and are all agreed that we are going...thats me, my wife and my ten year old daughter...ooh, i can hear the gasps now, how could i put my familys life at risk for the sake of a holiday!!? Ive allready taken critisism from friends and family for this choice.

MJS 11-Aug-2006 20:13

They won't stop me. Personally I reckon now is probably the safest time of all to fly.
Having said that, my next trip home will probably be just me, my wallet and passport.. phone can stay here, can't be doing with checking bags in..

Bionicle 11-Aug-2006 20:59

I would say flying is safer than staying at home :)

In 2005, 671 pedestrians were killed in road accidents in Great Britain, this was 21 per cent of all deaths from road accidents,
The total number of deaths in road accidents 3,201 in 2005 the number of fatalities has remained fairly constant over the last ten years.

Just over half (52 per cent) of people killed in road accidents in 2005 were car users. Pedal cyclists and two-wheeled motor vehicle users represented 5 and 18 per cent of those killed respectively. Occupants of buses, coaches, goods and other vehicles accounted for the remaining 4 per cent of road deaths.

Rattler 11-Aug-2006 21:12

of course I am!!

yeti 12-Aug-2006 03:19

Not much choice, I fly back from San Francisco tomorrow...........

Scooter916 12-Aug-2006 11:38

We landed back from egypt early hours yesterday morning so didnt have a choice, But it wouldnt stop me anyway.

rxtim 12-Aug-2006 12:51

Can't emigrate to Oz without flying, well you can but we will fly.

bradders 12-Aug-2006 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bionicle
I would say flying is safer than staying at home :)

In 2005, 671 pedestrians were killed in road accidents in Great Britain, this was 21 per cent of all deaths from road accidents,
The total number of deaths in road accidents 3,201 in 2005 the number of fatalities has remained fairly constant over the last ten years.

Just over half (52 per cent) of people killed in road accidents in 2005 were car users. Pedal cyclists and two-wheeled motor vehicle users represented 5 and 18 per cent of those killed respectively. Occupants of buses, coaches, goods and other vehicles accounted for the remaining 4 per cent of road deaths.



how many people fly V travel by means mentioned? deaths per trip/mile is the onkly way to compare.

Glad its not going to affect most, its not the risk that causes me an issue, after all have we forgotten the IRA issues we had for years?? Did it stop visists to London, Brighton etc?? Mine is more gthe added inconvenice - I am an inpatient perosn with better things to do than queue - thats why I woont be floying...until of course liots stop in which case no queues!!

madmav 12-Aug-2006 17:21

mamby pamby state
 
I dont fly! why? because i'm scared of flying ! my arms get tired, my eys run,and my landing gear is not what it used to be !!! ask the missus!!
But I do spend a lot of time inbetween the ring trips running my Elite customers to and from Airports around the uk !
I was at Eastmidlands yesterday to pick up a lady from Bergerac,
she told me she was body searched at the France airport !
I was talking to one of the S.W.A.T cops there at Eastmidlands,
I asked him why no one was being searched and he did not have an answer for me!
seems we are to proud in this country or to scared to do our job!

1 stop people
2 ask them where they are going or what they are doing
3 search them
4 if all is ok send them on their way !

simple Init!

Baseball bat's at the ready I say!

Glyn 12-Aug-2006 18:18

i dont think i'll ever go on a plane
did it once that was enough
two week holiday in corfu when i was bout 19
dont get i wrong, didn't mind the taking off and landing stuff. the rest off it was soul destroying
hanging around for three hours with nowt to do before you board
sitting for another half hour waiting to take off
then three hours on the damn plane (for me) waiting to get there
another hour for your ludgage
another hour spent waiting for the coach and the reps to stop chatting to each other and accually do something like find the people that are ment to be on the coach
then an hour on the flippin coach riding around dropping people hear there and every where

14 days to get over it and you have to do it again to get home
and that was before they had sucurity
i'd prefer to chew me arm off

YMFB 12-Aug-2006 19:36

Personally it wont stop me, I fly almost only for work, havent flown for hols for probably ten years. It wouldnt stop me anyway and I agree with all the restrictions if packing luggage in the hold is the safest way then thats wher it belongs. Only thing I will miss is my mobile and laptop whilst waiting after security/passport control.

PeteB 12-Aug-2006 20:01

Why stop???

Those wishing to disrupt our society with bombs will gain satisfaction even without any explosions, the fear and paranoia felt by some, feeds their evil minds, so laugh in their face and get on with life, feel sorry for the poor misguided fools or let Mav have ago at them?

jeff st4s 12-Aug-2006 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tantrum992
we have spoken at lenght about it and are all agreed that we are going...thats me, my wife and my ten year old daughter...ooh, i can hear the gasps now, how could i put my familys life at risk for the sake of a holiday!!? Ive allready taken critisism from friends and family for this choice.


Cannot understand why you got any grief.
I don't see why they should stop us living our lives.
The benefit is no more suitcases been dragged on and passed off as hand luggage leaving no space for those that may need it.

TopiToo 13-Aug-2006 01:01

Hello

There is no justication for any human person wanting to take revenge in this way.

I say that as I guess its revenge they feel they need, extremist in any religion will
go to any lenghts to justify their cause.

What worries me more so is the fact America is so determined to fight the hidden enemy.
At what cost ? Do you feel any safer when news breaks like this, terroist attempt foiled.

One thing is for sure, media will never portray why there is so much hattred towards
the west and what drives people to the extrem.

I believe its all about money, and who gets a bigger piece of the pie.

The world is definatly getting smaller, and as the planets resources are being streched
people will become less intolerable towards each other let alone their chosen religion.

What ever happened to flower power?

Last Night I Had The Strangest Dream
words and music by Ed McCurdy

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd ever dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war

I dreamed I saw a mighty room
Filled with women and men
And the paper they were signing said
They'd never fight again

And when the paper was all signed
And a million copies made
They all joined hands and bowed their heads
And grateful pray'rs were prayed

And the people in the streets below
Were dancing 'round and 'round
While swords and guns and uniforms
Were scattered on the ground

Last night I had the strangest dream
I'd never dreamed before
I dreamed the world had all agreed
To put an end to war.



TopiToo

Mad Dog Bianchi 13-Aug-2006 03:55

Brits are just a bunch of stalwart folks when times get tough! Comments here are a good indication of that and more power to ya! Screw them ******s, just like you told Hitler to bite the big weenie!
Your security folks caught these guys just in time and you should be justly proud of their quick action. Never let these jerks win this game! Hail Britannia!
(tried to post this before, but seemingly no luck, so one more try)

Rob B 13-Aug-2006 09:06

As someone said in an earlier post, "it's proabably the safest time to be flying," can't even take books on a plane at the moment. Why, i'm sure paper could be impregnated with some sort of bomb fuel!

Anyway, all it means is the radicals will be looking for eaiser mass impact targets. Think Spanish trains and it's an easy jump to football matches, concerts etc...........

Have a great Sunday :-)

Gizmo 13-Aug-2006 09:58

i've got no options, i have to fly for work. I've got no problem with the current level of checking but am not looking forward to 13 hour flights with no ipod, laptop or magazines :( I was on a US flight straight after 9/11 it didn't feel any different then with all the extra checks, but it will now with no personal items allowed

As has been said, the risks are small, its more dangerous to drive to the airport than it is fly using a major airline out of London.

ath748 13-Aug-2006 11:34

I fly every two weeks back and forth between UK and Switzerland. It won't stop me, been doing it for the last 18 months, I'll carry on too.

What with online checkin now, I just turn up at the airport abotu 20 mins before the gate closes, and I hop on the plane. I've spent longer waiting for a train. Much better than it all used to be. Even long haul is getting shorter the time you have to hang about.

If your time is up, your time is up. I wouldn't let anything like this stop me or my girlfriend from making the bi-weekly flight.

mikesps 14-Aug-2006 00:53

I may be wrong but, according to the BBC website, you can take anything you buy in the departure lounge on a plane. If so, buy your books and magazines there. I don't fancy 13 hours with nothing to read either.

MJS 14-Aug-2006 06:15

What about flights into the UK? My next trip will be back in from Frankfurt, have they stopped all hand luggage and put the same restrictions in place for incoming flights?

Cheers
Martin

dickieducati 14-Aug-2006 09:02

wouldnt make any difference to me. i like going to new places as often as i can. i have been to plenty of places where there is a high risk of terrorist attacks or where there have been recent atrocities but would still go. i work in london anyway so risks from terrorism is part of life. unfortunately it is for many people these days. the only thing you can certain of is thats its here to stay.

RickyX 14-Aug-2006 10:14

Just came back from Barcelona - absolutely no restriction on hand luggage from Spain.
Mind you, it was a complete arse getting luggage at LGW - took 2.5 hrs, just what you need when your flight is already 3 hrs late and it's 3am and the children are a bit "crotchety".....!!!

andyb 14-Aug-2006 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban996
They won't stop me. Personally I reckon now is probably the safest time of all to fly.
Having said that, my next trip home will probably be just me, my wallet and passport.. phone can stay here,




Why did you get robbed? :lol: :lol:

MJS 14-Aug-2006 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyb
Why did you get robbed? :lol: :lol:


Seems pretty safe here - Police seem to be pretty effective :frog:

andyb 14-Aug-2006 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban996
Seems pretty safe here - Police seem to be pretty effective :frog:


ahh, the old guns and a big stick method...........:D

madmav 14-Aug-2006 14:14

Heathrow
 
Well I just got back from taking someone to heathrow.


mmmmmmmmmmmm Parked in short stay!
Walked her str8 through to first class!
Waited with her while she checked in !
Had a coffee !
Walked str8 back out and left!!!!!!!!

What security?
wern't stopped!
Wern't approached!

The car park looked like a a scene from M.A.S.H loads of white tents and people queing and shouting and getting all upset with each other!



If I were a terrorist I could have blew the Terminal sky High !!!!!!!

Massive impact !
Loads of brownie points for my chosen religion/faith

We have got it all so wrong in this country !!!

arn't we meant to stop em getting on the plane?

cant get my breath !


Mav

MJS 14-Aug-2006 14:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyb
ahh, the old guns and a big stick method...........:D


Respect - fear, call it what you like - which do you prefer? I've walked through Northampton town centre on Friday and Saturday evenings and I wouldn't want to be the bobby's on the beat..

Brogins 14-Aug-2006 22:19

..I fly EVERY WEEK for work..sometimes TWICE...
It is going to be a HUGE pain in the .... for a lot of people...

I know well that everyone can be a terrorist - no matter race or religion - but I have nothing against profiling!! I can't believe what I am reading on the newspapers....
If the majority of terrorists were coming from Rome.. I will NOT have a problem to be searched everytime I get a flight!!


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