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rich-racing.co.uk 21-Aug-2006 12:06

info on 620 ss race conversion?
 
thinking of buying a 620 ss roadbike to convert for next season.
would need end cans - any idea where & how much?
are the suspenders up to racing with my muscular :lol: 13 and a half frame onboard, or does it need work?
do the suspension adjusters work, or just click for a placebo effect, like a jap. bike?
any pitfalls i should take in before buying?
cheers fella's!

domski 21-Aug-2006 12:31

Just buy the bleeding thing and worry about the rest after christmas ;)

:D

domski 21-Aug-2006 12:37

Actually, you got me thinking :o

We should have a 'How to convert your Ducati to a DD racer' page on the www.DDRACER.com website.

Have you bought it yet?

rich-racing.co.uk 21-Aug-2006 12:37

if i buy it i'll be worrying about it before cadwell:(

just want to know if I'm doing the right thing, or better to buy a race bike. would like one road "legal" tho'...

domski 21-Aug-2006 12:40

Parts are no more expensive to buy than Jap stuff.

A couple of race silencers, re-sprung shock, race fairing etc.

All can be found on flea bay or on here.

The bike you've talked about seems nice, buy it, ride it, prep it, race it and grin like hell :D :D :D

rich-racing.co.uk 21-Aug-2006 12:55

if anyone has any bits, let me know!
would probably need a race clock bracket as well - would be fitting a 916 fairing.

domski 21-Aug-2006 12:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich-racing.co.uk
if anyone has any bits, let me know!
would probably need a race clock bracket as well - would be fitting a 916 fairing.


Why? :lol:

What's wrong with the Sport fairing? It fits already.

You're a complicated man aren't you :lol:

:D

rich-racing.co.uk 21-Aug-2006 13:16

thought you said constipated then.....
916 fairing is pretty, and can get a nice tall screen for my stiff neck.
oe fairing going back on when bike sold as careful owner road bike:lol:
got to sort catch tray anyway, so seemed easiest. bet the oe fairing would sell for a good few quid on ebay...

phil_h 21-Aug-2006 13:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by domski
What's wrong with the Sport fairing?


You are joking arnt you Dom ?
The SSie are one of the worst looking bikes ever made.
No wonder the sales figures are complete pants.
Ducati styled the best looking bikes in the world with the 916, then fell flat on their faces with everything else theyve produced since.

domski 21-Aug-2006 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
You are joking arnt you Dom ?
The SSie are one of the worst looking bikes ever made.
No wonder the sales figures are complete pants.
Ducati styled the best looking bikes in the world with the 916, then fell flat on their faces with everything else theyve produced since.


If you're building a 620 Sport race bike on a bit of a tight budget (which Rich is), surely it makes more sense just to buy a Sport race fairing, rather than going through the hassle of fitting a 916 fairing.

I suppose it may not cost much more, but if you need a 916 style fairing stay (or a modified one) that's £100 ish straight away.

It may be uglier, but at least the Sport fairing will go straight on for just the cost of the panels.

:confused:

phil_h 21-Aug-2006 13:32

yeh but no but ...
you cant easily get spare screens for ssie fairings let alone panels, but you can find 916 panels and screens everywhere, in a choice of shapes and colours to suit every budget ;)

twpd 21-Aug-2006 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
You are joking arnt you Dom ?
The SSie are one of the worst looking bikes ever made.
No wonder the sales figures are complete pants.
Ducati styled the best looking bikes in the world with the 916, then fell flat on their faces with everything else theyve produced since.


Cheeky sod. What's wrong with this? I think it's gorgeous!


twpd 21-Aug-2006 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
yeh but no but ...
you cant easily get spare screens for ssie fairings let alone panels, but you can find 916 panels and screens everywhere, in a choice of shapes and colours to suit every budget ;)


Panels and screens are easily available. MRA do a screen as do Powerbronze for £39.

domski 21-Aug-2006 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
Cheeky sod. What's wrong with this? I think it's gorgeous!



MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :D

We like that ;)

Can I play?

:lol:

twpd 21-Aug-2006 18:46

Mebbe ;) One day when you've grown up like.

domski 21-Aug-2006 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
Mebbe ;) One day when you've grown up like.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think I may need one of them there 800's for DD next season. There are too many faaaaaaaaaast people on faaaaaaaaaast bikes entering it :o

couchcommando 22-Aug-2006 09:14

Cheapest way is to spend £2500 on a bike that is already prepped and has full exhaust and decent suspension ;) ;) ;)
See mr Couch :)

phil_h 22-Aug-2006 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
Cheeky sod. What's wrong with this? I think it's gorgeous!


They do look better in black nige, and that is a good pic, but ...

the designer in me just cringes looking at the style lines going in all different directions - it looks like a parts bin bodywork special because of those strange lines

the engineer in me looks at the compromises in the rear end of the frame to put a passenger and luggage capable tail on - its a touring frame

Mind you, I would probably pay you money to have a ride on yours :devil:
I'm sure the view from the cockpit is much better :biaggi:

rich-racing.co.uk 22-Aug-2006 09:45

twpd - how does the stupid tank pad come off? tools or violence?:devil:
didn't think you'd be able to get a race fairing for a ss bike. anybody got a number?
also, who should i phone to price up some cans?
cheers fella's!

psychlist 22-Aug-2006 09:52

:lol:
Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
They do look better in black nige, and that is a good pic, but ...

the designer in me just cringes looking at the style lines going in all different directions - it looks like a parts bin bodywork special because of those strange lines

the engineer in me looks at the compromises in the rear end of the frame to put a passenger and luggage capable tail on - its a touring frame


Cr@p! :D
The SSie looks fantastic, far better to have those sculpted flowing lines than the flat panel boring old style SS that owed more to the "dustbin" fairings on your 50's racers than it did to 90's machinery or styling :p
The only "old" style bikes that looked good were the 851/888 series, even the Paso looks better than the old SS :lol:

phil_h 22-Aug-2006 09:58

:lol: Sorry Paul, missed what you were trying to tell me there, what was that again ;)

couchcommando 22-Aug-2006 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychlist
:lol:

Cr@p! :D
, even the Paso looks better than the old SS :lol:


Your argument was going quite well till that statement LOL

stumpy1 22-Aug-2006 10:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich-racing.co.uk
twpd - how does the stupid tank pad come off? tools or violence?:devil:
didn't think you'd be able to get a race fairing for a ss bike. anybody got a number?
also, who should i phone to price up some cans?
cheers fella's!



you just pulled it off...its only on with glue!!! just done mine!!


you can get a race fairing for a SS they are on ebay,some german firm!!

cans look on ebay!!

domski 22-Aug-2006 11:06

Ricambi Weiss in Germany do them, but Antoine has a contact in France I think who does some nice stuff.

Rich, drop Ali a PM, he gets through more panels than most :lol:

Also, you may have to wait until tomorrow to get more info as half the club are at Cadwell Park.

;)

Have you bought that bike yet?

rich-racing.co.uk 22-Aug-2006 11:36

getting closer...think I'm gonna go for the roadbike and play with the traffic for a bit!
you had a day off yesterday - what's todays excuse?
you'll get the sack before you get a pay packet!:burn:
just knocked up a list of pre - injection R1 spares if anyone's interested in an email. everything from clutch levers to a frame! just send me a PM.

domski 22-Aug-2006 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich-racing.co.uk
you had a day off yesterday - what's todays excuse?


My boss is 150 miles away???

I am getting work done though - multi-tasking like a behatch.

;)

domski 22-Aug-2006 11:48

Have you bought a bike yet?

psychlist 22-Aug-2006 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by domski
I am getting work done though - multi-tasking
;)



Multi-Tasking!?! Only women can do that, allegedly ;)

domski 22-Aug-2006 11:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychlist
Multi-Tasking!?! Only women can do that, allegedly ;)


Correct!!

You didn't think I was the one doing the work did you? :o

I said I was getting work done. :lol:

Rich - Have you bought a bike yet?

phil_h 22-Aug-2006 11:57

Dom - are you working yet ?

domski 22-Aug-2006 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
Dom - are you working yet ?


I'm at a place of work, if that's what you mean?

:lol:

Rich - have you got a bike yet?

twpd 22-Aug-2006 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by couchcommando
Cheapest way is to spend £2500 on a bike that is already prepped and has full exhaust and decent suspension ;) ;) ;)
See mr Couch :)



You were doing well until the last 3 words. ;)

rich-racing.co.uk 22-Aug-2006 12:09

no, not yet dom. need dollars.
getting close tho'.
got a bit back on R1 bits, and may assault the plastic for the balance..

sleeping AND dreaming is not multi tasking.
drinking tea and playing computers count?:puzzled:

twpd 22-Aug-2006 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h
They do look better in black nige, and that is a good pic, but ...

the designer in me just cringes looking at the style lines going in all different directions - it looks like a parts bin bodywork special because of those strange lines

the engineer in me looks at the compromises in the rear end of the frame to put a passenger and luggage capable tail on - its a touring frame

Mind you, I would probably pay you money to have a ride on yours :devil:
I'm sure the view from the cockpit is much better :biaggi:


Well I like them far more than Terreblance's other creations. I do agree re. the frame. It should be a lightweight bolt-on subframe. The existing frame is a bad thing for racing in terms crash resistance and weight...in the USA they cut the rear off and put a proper subframe on..here in the UK we aren't allowed to do it.

If you're willing to pay then we hould talk - it's an absolute hoot to ride. A bit underpowered against the big 4's but, nonetheless a lot of fun. Corner speed is high.

couchcommando 22-Aug-2006 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
You were doing well until the last 3 words. ;)


it is, well I can't fault it :) Front has stiffer linear springs and rear feels great ;)

twpd 22-Aug-2006 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by rich-racing.co.uk
twpd - how does the stupid tank pad come off? tools or violence?:devil:
didn't think you'd be able to get a race fairing for a ss bike. anybody got a number?
also, who should i phone to price up some cans?
cheers fella's!



The rubber pad just pulls off - getting the double-side foam tape off is another matter altogether. The bodywork is from Ricambi Weiss in Germany.They have an eBay shop but, it's cheaper to buy direct from them...just Google. The seat is from Ducati Kaemna in Germany (expensive but it fits straight away). Don't buy the Ricambi seat - it's ****.

I talk to a lad who races an 800ss in the USA. He has 999 bodywork on it - apparently it goes on well with very little modification.

twpd 22-Aug-2006 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychlist
Multi-Tasking!?! Only women can do that, allegedly ;)


As you know - it's a myth that we choose to perpetuate. Let a woman know you can multi-task and she'll just give you more work to do. I can quite happily drink beer, surf the web, listen to music and watch the box all at once.

phil_h 22-Aug-2006 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
Well I like them far more than Terreblance's other creations. I do agree re. the frame. It should be a lightweight bolt-on subframe. The existing frame is a bad thing for racing in terms crash resistance and weight...in the USA they cut the rear off and put a proper subframe on..here in the UK we aren't allowed to do it.

If you're willing to pay then we hould talk - it's an absolute hoot to ride. A bit underpowered against the big 4's but, nonetheless a lot of fun. Corner speed is high.


Its made me think about when I started racing ... I was running a 350 velocette (stop laughing at the back, it was only 5 years ago !) in vintage events, even then I was entering up to 3 classes per meeting, so I got to race behind a lot of 500s, and they were so slow into the corners I got really fed up with them ... so I bought one. A velo 500, so it felt and handled just the same as my 350.
The very first meeting I rode it at everything was going really well as I got used to the extra grunt, and then I came off it 3 times in 2 days :o as well as surviving a massive holding-on-by-one-hand-with-feet-flying-in-the-air-highside.
Well, it was 3-sisters, and it was wet :lol:

Oops, shouldnt be telling you that just now should I nige :lol:

psychlist 22-Aug-2006 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by twpd
I can quite happily drink beer, surf the web, listen to music and watch the box all at once.


So THAT's where Domski's working then :D

twpd 22-Aug-2006 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil_h

Oops, shouldnt be telling you that just now should I nige :lol:


I'm fearless - has no effect on me altho' ur reasoning for getting a new bike was amusing. "I want a more powerful bike to go slower". Go figure! :lol:


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