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Redsps 28-Aug-2006 22:17

Club memberships and board members, things are not what they used to be....
 
Having spent a while reading through previous posts etc from the archives 2003 etc, I am surprised to see the amount of peeps that are no longer club members or board members or both.
There appears to one hell of a lots of peeps that do not visit(logged in) or post anymore. Also the amount of board members that are also DSC members seems to have dropped considerbly.

I cant help thinking there is an underlying reason for this.
Is it that the board and the way that it is used is turning peeps away now, for what ever reasons.
Maybe some peeps have moved to other makes of bikes, or just given up on biking.
Maybe if there is an underlying problem with the club or board, or both it should be addressed to enhance both etc.
the amount of peeps joining the forum is a lot, but it's allways the same old regulars that visit on a regular basis.
Just my observation you understand, but any thoughts on this.
Just as a starter, the recent post from jewell, it stayed on the board for a fair time. But other less offensive post etc have been removed in mega speed.
To be honest that post would have put a lot of peeps off the board and club.
I am pretty easy goining , but it was an inappropiate posting, with no real use to anyone, not even himself.
Just my view, which I am entitled to.

back to you peeps.

Dibble 28-Aug-2006 22:24

as a club, you reap what you sow .... it's a knock on of lots of warnings, concerns and demands for action being historically ignored and some that continue to be ignored, making the club and the board not what they once were , many of those that made the DSC what it was are still out there, they just aren't in here any longer .. tis a shame ....

Loz 28-Aug-2006 22:34

My experience with message boards and forums is that there are always a core of regulars who post regularly, but that this core will gradually change over time. There may be an "inner core" that remains for the long haul, but turnover of contributors is inevitable, in terms of casual posters and "regulars".
People find that their interests move on, or that there is no longer anything new or fresh for them on the forum - either they've seen it all before or they have said everything they have to say, time to move on.
It's not something peculiar to the DSC Message Board, it happens on all forums - the ones that I've seen, anyway.
And all forums have their nuisance posters - to a greater or lesser extent. It's endemic to the Internet.

andyb 28-Aug-2006 22:47

With respect why arnt you or Dibble a member then......and make a difference in something that your opinions seems to show you care about?

£20odd hardly brakes the bank!

Dibble 28-Aug-2006 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyb
With respect why arnt you or Dibble a member then......and make a difference in something that your opinions seems to show you care about?

£20odd hardly brakes the bank!


my reasons are well known to the membership secretary mate, there are certain principles involvd and why spend £20 without conviction ...

you'll find I rarely attand anything officially DSC any longer but keep in touch with my friends, very occasionally through the site... so it's not like I'm taking without giving ...

Hope that helps ....

Redsps 28-Aug-2006 23:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyb
With respect why arnt you or Dibble a member then......and make a difference in something that your opinions seems to show you care about?

£20odd hardly brakes the bank!


I was a fully paid up member, until recently.
But probs dictated otherwise and I let it lapse, that's not a crime, and does not mean I dont support the club when are where possible, membership cost is not an issue.
Infact I've pointed a lot of peeps towards joining.
I just feel that things have changed in a negative way, just my opinion.

KeefyB 29-Aug-2006 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by A888SP
Having spent a while reading through previous posts etc from the archives 2003 etc, I am surprised to see the amount of peeps that are no longer club members or board members or both.
There appears to one hell of a lots of peeps that do not visit(logged in) or post anymore. Also the amount of board members that are also DSC members seems to have dropped considerbly.

Dont forget that in 2003 the only really Ducati dedicated message boards were the DSC and the American Speedzilla sites.
Now we have DSC,DuN,Ducatisti and even the DOC.
IMO there are two main reasons for folks to leave the board.
1)Yep the DSC has had some "issues" lately,..and also a lot of probs with the website.How off putting can it be to be unable to log on for hours,..and then when you do eventually get on,find a load of nastiness and childish rants.
Thankfully things in the club and website have calmed down and things are coming back to normal.
2)People buy motorcycles for lots of reasons,..to look cool as a fashion accessory,on a whim,coz it was always summat they wanted to do,because its in their blood,or simply just because MCN told them to!;)
Either way,lots of folks come here to gather info and to join in on runs or whatever.Next summer that same person may sell the bike for the next latest,greatest thing.(Usually when the bike needs a 12k service!;) )
Some folks suffer or witness a big crash that puts them off.
Either way,as many folks leave the board as join.
Personally I also spend some time on the Ducatisti board,(as do a few others here!),thet seem a friendly bunch with not a hint of nastiness,.....just like this board used to be!

Annette 29-Aug-2006 07:11

Another day; a different issue. It's what makes some people tick.
Ignore 'em. Be happy :-)

TopiToo 29-Aug-2006 08:22

where is everybody
 
Hello




TopiToo

itexuk 29-Aug-2006 08:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeefyB
Personally I also spend some time on the Ducatisti board,(as do a few others here!),thet seem a friendly bunch with not a hint of nastiness,.....just like this board used to be!


Same here a much better Forum.

Ray 01-Sep-2006 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loz
My experience with message boards and forums is that there are always a core of regulars who post regularly, but that this core will gradually change over time. There may be an "inner core" that remains for the long haul, but turnover of contributors is inevitable, in terms of casual posters and "regulars".
People find that their interests move on, or that there is no longer anything new or fresh for them on the forum - either they've seen it all before or they have said everything they have to say, time to move on.
It's not something peculiar to the DSC Message Board, it happens on all forums - the ones that I've seen, anyway.
And all forums have their nuisance posters - to a greater or lesser extent. It's endemic to the Internet.



That pretty much sums it up, don't like to mention the usual old chestnut but I'm going to do anyway, there's a significant proportion of the membership IMHO that:-

1) Just use the site for info. and don't bother posting
2) Never come near the site at all and don't bother with the internerd in general.

Ray

Iconic944ss 01-Sep-2006 10:38

Some interesting points and good to see some reasoned discussion.

Loz, in my mind hits the nail on the head - peoples tastes (and bikes) change and while I'm sure lots just come here looking for Ducati info, others might now just browse and not post at all. But, if no-one posted here, the information would not be available and the message board could just be a calendar of events instead!

I think A888SP's post is a constructive one but, since I'm now a member of the webteam my own usage of the site has changed totally. Instead of being able to browse over all sorts of forums, I now seem to only do webteamy type stuff and browse the 'SS' forum when I get chance - so I'd be interested to hear why people think their usage of the site has changed?

I'm sure a lot of people did get very sick of the old server/software situation and constant outages but hopefully those users will return and post more regularly now that the problems have been solved.

Also to answer A88SP's question about offensive posts - it just happended to be bad timing that the posts appeared during a heavy workload for the Weteam and no-one actually reported them for sometime, as mentioned previously we now rely quite a bit on people reporting offensive posts other wise we might not see them ourselves.

FINALLY - the new constitution has been hand posted with the copy of Pronto and is very worthy of consideration.

Kind Regards - Frank
DSC Webteam

david.hicks 01-Sep-2006 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeefyB
Personally I also spend some time on the Ducatisti board,(as do a few others here!),thet seem a friendly bunch with not a hint of nastiness,.....just like this board used to be!


Yep agreed - and a much better user interface. The only thing it needs is the technical depth of DSC. Now if a few of the old DSC guard were to start checking it out ... who knows ...

Jools 01-Sep-2006 21:37

Good site the Ducatisti one, I'm going to take the credit for posting up the link to Ducatisti on the DSC board and making people aware of it.

Mind you I have to say I find the user interface less user friendly if anything.

The people are a good friendly bunch though and I post a bit on there as well (I'm T8 over there). The only other thing about the site is that it's a bit 'quiet' with not quite as many postings to get yer teeth into - don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing

GsxrAge 01-Sep-2006 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iconic944ss
FINALLY - the new constitution has been hand posted with the copy of Pronto and is very worthy of consideration.

Kind Regards - Frank
DSC Webteam



Hmm thats all very well but if ya don't get pronto ya can't read it !

david.hicks 01-Sep-2006 22:02

Got mine today and I to be frank I can't be arsed with the constitution - I joined last year and I guess I missed it all. I don't know what all the fuss is about ... just that there has been loads of bitchin' about it and the DD by a bunch of people I've never met but all seem to know each other really well and it is all a bit boring really. Yawn.

Can't be arsed with Pronto either actually - I binned it.

khushy 02-Sep-2006 08:06

I particularly like the . . .
 
webmaster's censorship policy - seems that posts that are deemed only acceptable to them are allowed to stay on the board.

Khushy

doogalman 02-Sep-2006 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by david.hicks
Got mine today and I to be frank I can't be arsed with the constitution - I joined last year and I guess I missed it all. I don't know what all the fuss is about ... just that there has been loads of bitchin' about it and the DD by a bunch of people I've never met but all seem to know each other really well and it is all a bit boring really. Yawn.

Can't be arsed with Pronto either actually - I binned it.

I'm with you on this.
Could this be discussed in the members area!!!!!

philthy 02-Sep-2006 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by khushy
webmaster's censorship policy - seems that posts that are deemed only acceptable to them are allowed to stay on the board.

Khushy



Well someone has to make the decision as to what is acceptable and what is not, otherwise the place would become a free for all and offensive comment could become the norm.

I think that on balance they do an excellent job.

( I'll leave now shall I? )

Fordie 02-Sep-2006 09:46

I totally agree Philthy, unfortuantly it seem the norm nowadays to go against any sort of moral or expected behavoir and everyone cribbing about big brother. Big brother would'nt have to be there if people behaved in a respecting, toterating manner. Treat people as you would wish to be treated and if you hav'nt got some thing nice to say, Do'nt say it The world full of **** but it does'nt have to be seen on our site. 4D

Nattyboy 02-Sep-2006 09:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeefyB
Dont forget that in 2003 the only really Ducati dedicated message boards were the DSC and the American Speedzilla sites.
Now we have DSC,DuN,Ducatisti and even the DOC.
IMO there are two main reasons for folks to leave the board.
1)Yep the DSC has had some "issues" lately,..and also a lot of probs with the website.How off putting can it be to be unable to log on for hours,..and then when you do eventually get on,find a load of nastiness and childish rants.
Thankfully things in the club and website have calmed down and things are coming back to normal.
2)People buy motorcycles for lots of reasons,..to look cool as a fashion accessory,on a whim,coz it was always summat they wanted to do,because its in their blood,or simply just because MCN told them to!;)
Either way,lots of folks come here to gather info and to join in on runs or whatever.Next summer that same person may sell the bike for the next latest,greatest thing.(Usually when the bike needs a 12k service!;) )
Some folks suffer or witness a big crash that puts them off.
Either way,as many folks leave the board as join.
Personally I also spend some time on the Ducatisti board,(as do a few others here!),thet seem a friendly bunch with not a hint of nastiness,.....just like this board used to be!


Dont forget the UKMOC bud - started in 2001 !

Nat

MJS 02-Sep-2006 09:50

Haven't you lot got bikes to ride?? Don't tell me it's raining in the UK again???

Lovely sunshine here this morning, shame I'm stuck in an office... I just wanna go ride my bike :D

Cheers
Martin

TopiToo 02-Sep-2006 10:21

Hello

It's only a website:)

I have no idea why people have left, or to be honest care.
I still meet up with all the guys and gals at rideouts and meets/trackdays
whether there in the DSC or not, and still have a laugh or two:)

This site has over the years provided me with a sourse of information
enabling me to keep the bike on the road.

I find it easier to be positive about the way the site is going, people will
leave, and people will join take from it what you will.

TopiToo

khushy 02-Sep-2006 10:35

if everyone agrees with censorship . . .
 
why dont you just make the board "members only" then you can all be nice and gentle with each others ego's - "jolly good show" and all that rubbish - cause thats what this place is turning into!

Do I look beautiful - does my bike polish up nicely - oh what a lovely track day it was - do you mind if I pass you - on the outside and yes you are beautiful (even if in the eyes of anyone else on the planet you are a MUNTER) - oh you are much too fast for us - we will have to black flag you as its meant to be a gentle affair etc etc!!

Khushy

anyone for tea???

8-)

andyb 02-Sep-2006 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by khushy
why dont you just make the board "members only" then you can all be nice and gentle with each others ego's - "jolly good show" and all that rubbish - cause thats what this place is turning into!

Do I look beautiful - does my bike polish up nicely - oh what a lovely track day it was - do you mind if I pass you - on the outside and yes you are beautiful (even if in the eyes of anyone else on the planet you are a MUNTER) - oh you are much too fast for us - we will have to black flag you as its meant to be a gentle affair etc etc!!

Khushy

anyone for tea???

8-)


Pay up yer tight git!:devil:

everton 02-Sep-2006 10:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by khushy
why dont you just make the board "members only" then you can all be nice and gentle with each others ego's - "jolly good show" and all that rubbish - cause thats what this place is turning into!

Do I look beautiful - does my bike polish up nicely - oh what a lovely track day it was - do you mind if I pass you - on the outside and yes you are beautiful (even if in the eyes of anyone else on the planet you are a MUNTER)etc etc!!

Khushy

anyone for tea???

8-)


You've got the wrong site mate - www.ducatisti.co.uk is the place for the love in. Anyway if it was members only you'd have to join :p

khushy 02-Sep-2006 10:46

cheers . . .
 
and thanks for putting me right on that one!!!

8-P

Khushy
(peace & love)

Fordie 02-Sep-2006 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by khushy
why dont you just make the board "members only" then you can all be nice and gentle with each others ego's - "jolly good show" and all that rubbish - cause thats what this place is turning into!

Do I look beautiful - does my bike polish up nicely - oh what a lovely track day it was - do you mind if I pass you - on the outside and yes you are beautiful (even if in the eyes of anyone else on the planet you are a MUNTER) - oh you are much too fast for us - we will have to black flag you as its meant to be a gentle affair etc etc!!

Khushy

anyone for tea???

8-)




Typical comments from a non member with a blooming great chip on his shoulder. Whats so wrong with being nice and gentle with each other at least we are as one and not fragmented like some Comments like that **** me of and only cause more contention for this board to have to address. Im in two minds whether to actually bite on this or just ignore it . Why is it mostly non members that are the ones all to eager to stir it. 4D

Henners 02-Sep-2006 16:33

Pete ..
 
Quote:

Why is it mostly non members that are the ones all to eager to stir it

... becuse they were members until the MT p!$$ed them off.

H

philthy 02-Sep-2006 16:56

Now now chaps. I think this has gone on long enough and is now serving no useful purpose, other than to prove we need to behave like adults instead of adolescent schoolboys. Can't we just agree to differ, shake hands and get back to our game of rugger?

Loz 02-Sep-2006 16:59

Rugby? Nothing's worse than rugby players ...

:devil: ;)

philthy 02-Sep-2006 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loz
Rugby? Nothing's worse than rugby players ...

:devil: ;)



( Hate to admit it but I was useless at rugby so went off to play hockey ).......now there's a game! The skirts were a bit draughty though.

Loz 02-Sep-2006 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by philthy
( Hate to admit it but I was useless at rugby so went off to play hockey ).......now there's a game! The skirts were a bit draughty though.


If you were playing hockey with people in skirts, I bet the shower afterwards made it all worthwhile. ;)

749er 02-Sep-2006 19:33

I am with DSEERED and Fordie on this. If I wanted sarcasm, flaming and negativity, I would spend my time on Visordown. Those are the kind of things which lead prospective members like Sharpy G to ask whether they should join.

Friends and influence are rarely gained by use of negative statements

deej 04-Sep-2006 23:44

in my humble opinion all the fun disappeared off this board when DD was introduced, if you raced you went to that side of the forum and didnt post anywhere else so there was no fun on here for non DDers
thats my 2p off my chest

theoldbuzzard 07-Sep-2006 02:17

Right, that's it! I'm off to the love-in on Ducatisti............


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