How to kill a passion
 

How to kill a passion...

I have been involved with racing for more years than I care to remember. I have raced or been part of many teams, clubs & associations and enjoyed every minute of it until yesterday.

I don't understand why the likes of Paul James, Chris Bushell, John Montgomery and Antony Espindola want to destroy a fantastic race series.

I decided to get involved with DD at the start of the season after following it last year and seeing what a great bunch of people you were, and most of you still are. So I bought a new bike, read the rules and joined up.

Full of all the usual excitement I enrolled Domski, paired up with Louigi and went racing. All was fine at first, then the politics kicked in for some reason that I don't understand. The above people IMO are determined to destroy the series with their selfish attitudes and bullying ways.Yesterday at snetterton was the final straw for me when our bike was protested by Antony with bullets made and paid for by the MT!!

This meant that I had to strip the engine of our bike (thanks Alan & Butch) to prove to these knobs that we are honest and playing by the rules.

This cost me and others several hours of hard work after along and tiring weekend, and a four hour drive home (THANKS ANTONY)

Now I don't have a bike, just a pile of bits.

I'm gutted.

It will take many more hours and more money to rebuild my pride & joy. More than the protest fee!

I don't know if I will return next year, certainly not as long as these knobs are running things!

Thank you for destroying mine and Domski's weekend when we should have been celebrating our championship win.

That's now off my chest.

Congrats - Chas & Dom for your success . . .
 

Its a case of "dick dangling" just like this forum unfortunately - watch this post get deleted or censored cause its not QT!!!

Maybe they are just jealous?!?!?

Khushy

I can understand your feelings.

But you are without arguement the "championship winners" if it helps.
Well done.

chass,

the most important thing to come out of this is that you and dom both rise above it are are out there again next year.

it sucks, but you are not the losers here.

I've got some Halfords spanners, let me at it, we'll have it together....with some bolts left over...in no time ;)

If they delete this post it will just prove apoint.

How to kill a passion...????

Read any of the DD posts that talk about this boring string of sorry arsed events.

Let it go you won FFS

Nice to see you involved in a positive note..............again * sigh*

Chass - you are a proven innocent party here and have in my opinion suffered more than othrs because of the short-sighted views of others. The timing of the protest was ill-advised and as you state, you should have been celebrating your championship win.

Others have also suffered; additional effort, missed races etc, but I feel that you have been such a strong supporter of the series that it is extremely unfair on you.

However, you and Dom have been proved to be the winners clean and clear. No questions.

Many, many congratulations to you Chass, you have produced a top quality, lovingly and legally prepared race bike that Dom has served you well by winning the championship.

We need you there next year Chass, - besides, who'd make the tea ;)

Tim

It my not be your cup of tea if you don't like don't read it go somwere else.

LMAO and you are ?

Altho this to me may tell the story of a bigger picture, just maybe the majority in DSC don't want DD anymore and this is an ideal way to alienate the series and the riders and force them all to move on.

I posted this earlier (it was the first response) but I think I may have deleted it by accident ... anyway, I went back in my browser history to retrieve it.

Chass
I, and many others, really enjoy having you in the paddock.
I think you have given dom something special this year, and I've really enjoyed seeing the results of all your teamwork.
We need teams like yours to show us privateers what can be done when you get organised.



And I'm not just saying that cos you got me my first road-racing cup.

Whatever the circumstances surrounding the protest, you have to accept that the right to protest and the requirements surrounding a protest are enshrined in ACU regulations. You sign up to this - it's an unpalatable and hard fact of racing life I'm afraid. I'd be dicked off as well but, that's the way it is.

I'm glad you were legal and above board - I'l pleased you guys have done well. I empathise with you having a bike in bits. It's a kingsize bummer but, thems the regs.

I don't think most have an issue with the protest procedure or the fact it's been done. I think the problem lies with how it was done and who was behind the reasons for it being done.

Eggonfacezackerly!!!

Not only that, but whoever was behind this hasn't acheived the desired result as I've not been affected at all - whereas Chass now has his pride and joy in bits and he's very upset!

I have no problem with being protested - if it's genuine.

I also feel that Antony was pushed into doing this and at least he has the balls to stand up and be counted - unlike the 'backers' of this whole debacle.

Probably the same people who are brave behind a keyboard!!

Still, at least we can cheat like **** now :frog:

Quite. But those "rumours" were there nonetheless and they can only come from your "racing" colleagues.

You and Dom can hold your heads up high - disgraceful as the circumstances are and how personal this all looks - the end result is you guys won - fair and square and can put 2 fingers up to whoever is the mystery (door)knob!

No you can't cos I'll protest you ;)

Every meeting. Cos I is sponsored. :p

I never liked you :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's mutual you knut. :lol:

Well done by the way - last year I thought you were a bit of a tit with some of your riding and things you said - this year you've done the business.

But still a TIT..just bigger n faster............lol

Chass, the pits won't be the same. You have made a such a good impact on the whole DD event as far as Im concerned, for sure I was very supprised and shocked at the way things went on at Snett and even approached both Paul and Chris to say what "---king hells going on " I was certainly not impressed . It seemed to some that your bike was a little to fast,may be now they will but it down to rider skills as I did . Please don't chuck away some thing that has meant so much to you and more the point us . I would like to no more about it and who paid up the £250 to pay for a wasted exersise . See you at Cadwell . 4D

I'll bring your favorite beer :)

I would like to no more about it and who paid up the £250 to pay for a wasted exersise . [/quote]

I bet we all paid for it. I dare say the club account was dipped in to for this one. Perhaps we should ask for a receipt!!

Did anybody notice their absence while the bike was being stripped? If I put in a protest I would want to see for myself that everything was as it should be.

Don't go Chass and Dom. You're both a massive asset to the club and the series. The series needs people like you. I just wish some people realised that. Certain people may feel the series belongs to them, but the fact of the matter is it belongs to the team owners, riders and sponsors and without them the series is worth diddly.

If the powers that be want people to walk away then they are going about things the right way. I just hope they think it's worth it.

Anyway on a positive note. Congratulations to Dom and Phil on their series wins. Keep up the good work. It's a pleasure to watch you at work.

Sorry, Keith but I have to take you up on this. Having met you and found you to be an extremely helpful and pleasant guy, encapsulating the spirit of the club for me very early on in my days as a member, I think you're being unnecessarily negative. I'm sure there are plenty of people who are not interested in the DD racing and you're obviously one of them, but there's more than enough room on this board for anything anyone wants to say and you can quite easily ignore any posts about DD. To put the DD side of it, there are a lot of people spending lots of their hard earned money and a great deal of time and effort to race Ducatis because they love them and want to be out there racing with like minded people. I'm far less involved in it than they are but I can see what a passion it is for them and, as with any passion, tempers can run high and people get upset. They also get jubilant and ecstatic. It's all on the board and it's not a bore for them or for anyone else who is taking an interest in the series. So, tolerance is the least they can expect, IMHO.

Well said Ruth

Ruth and others.
I have no problem with anyone getting excited about what they are doing within the DD series.
but when I came on this morning for a wee look at the Today's Posts. It was awash with the usual rants of the MT verses US debate.
the deep and loo down skulduggery of all those who dared think there might be something amiss with the said bike.
my comment was a little tongue in cheek retort to what had been written on this board of the usual I don't like it so I am leaving.
That's what I find boring.
And like I asked the other day when someone got very upset about some current events.
What sort of response was expected on this thread ?
can I only pop something down here if I agree with the attitude of the thread creator.
Nothing underhand has gone on.
No one has been caught out.
Im sure it was all very annoying and unnecessary. But that's the rules.
So move on.

Are you sure about that?

It would appear that you're the only person to know for sure.

Can you explain how you know this please :)

more to the point.
are you sure something has.
because with the amount of name slinging and bad mouthing that has been started at the beginning of this thread.
some people would seam very set in there decision that something has.
All I said was it was a bit boring.
What are those of you who feel something has gone on going to do ?
keep moaning like wh0res
or do something a bit more constructive

keef - after the clog I got the other day, I am waiting for the same people to scream 'its bad for the club' ' why post this' ' no ones inerested' 'keep it positiive' 'go somewhere else if you dont like it'....seems to me Ruth has is spot on, what interests 1 may not interest another (I wish she had been around the other day :sigh: )....

I think your point is valid, its not 1 thread but many, but then this is the biggest event in the club (not a dig but genuine observation) and it is responsible for bringing in new blood, even if only for the racing.

Try DuN, I find it much more like this place used to be in posting terms, bit o banter with no need for seriousness, but then maybe its becasue this is a paid up club that people get all tectchy.

I was talking to a mate today who has won british championships, and he says one of the hazards of racing well is exactly what happened, he has been challenged loads of times over the last 30 years but never found as illegal.....just something he accepts. The issue he raised was a competeitor seeing what your bike had had done, and the improvements, timing etc which can legally make a difference, sure that doesnt apply here tho.

Keep on racing Dom!!

I am so glad that I have never got involved with DD !

I also sorry and dissapointed in saying I cant wait to get rid of the Duke this weekend.

It strikes me as this forum/dd race serries is all about who ya know and if yer face fits !

Perahps ducatis should be for the rich and more af a status symbol because this forum is not like it was 2 years ago when I stumbled upon it.

A common mans Gsxr is the way forward for me !

Age

Thanks for wasting my time!
 

A person from the managment team rang me on Friday asking for information about camshaft lift measurement, this i couldnt answer, but was alerted that the rumor in the paddock was that somone was running 800 camshafts? I invited such person to strip my bike and check the lift of cam lobes to compare with the said illigal bike. This was not to happen, but the rumor was actually about the other Louigi Moto bike. I was asked by the management team member "what had been done to Doms bike" My reply was "only normal servicing"
They obviously didnt belive what I had said, Did they think I would lie to them? Not sure, but I thrive on my reputation.
I think this whole saga has caused me personly a lot of wasted time as now I have to reassemble a perfectly good bike, when I should be working, trying to earn a living.

I'm sorry Keefer, but you're being a tw@t here. If your pride and joy was stripped down NOT because someone genuinely thought you were cheating, but to get back at you after your rider had voiced an opinion, I'm sure you'd be pi$$ed off too.

You weren't there and clearly have no idea what you're talking about, and if you're bored by it all, then don't read any threads from the DD section - it's quite simple. I don't read hundreds of threads!

Thats right keep moaning Dom

Out of order - this is hard earned money invested here by one and all in a DSC run ( for now ) Series -If you've nothing constructive to say why bother ? Its all in the DD section - stop being lazy and search the forums seperatly if it bugs you so much!

Keefer,

I am usually absolutely resolute in that I won't get involved in the politics of racing and forum bullcheese.

BUT, I have seen both sides of what has gone on here, and even in the short time that I've ben involved in the series, and the short time that I've known Dom, Chass, and all the other DD folk...it doesn't take a genius to work out exactly what has transpired here.

If you're the sort of geezer that can suss a genuine person from a fake one within a few minutes of meeting them (as I consider myself fortunate enough to be), then a couple of mins with Dom and Chass will reassure you that the most underhanded thing they'll ever attempt will be to steal your pie while you're not looking (Dom particularly).

You ask why get all heated up, why not just let it go and move on, it's nothing really is it?

Well, because you haven't risked your ass every race weekend to achieve what you've always dreamed of, and you haven't put your money, time and effort where your mouth is to help that rider achieve what he (and you) have always dreamed of, only to have a conflict of personalities and interests try to sour what should be one of the happiest days in your life, using the most insidious, underhanded, backdoor tactics known to mankind.

I've met an awful lot of the DD padock in the short time that I've raced with them, and there has never, EVER been the slightest notion that Dom was cheating. I would simply love to know who the "bunch" of riders were that supposedly grumbled enough to instigate a protest.

There is a serious amount of gayness going on with some of the guys in the field. I raced at Donny, finished sixth in my first race and was then informed that some riders had been complaining that I shouldn't be allowed to come into the series and take points off the championship leaders. Realistically, there weren't many people I could have affected in that race points wise. One of them that could have been affected put in the protest at Snett. My answer to the complaint was "tell them to F@ckin ride faster"

Whatever happens, Dom and Chass are the salt of the earth in this DD paddock. Lose them and you lose a lynch pin that cannot be replaced by pompous, self absorbed, supersillious public schoolboys.

Nuff said (probably too much, but balls to it, I'm furious about it all still)

Cheers,

Tim :)

Bl88dy hell, us straight guys in Class B have missed a trick here - Andy Sheppard turned up at Oulton, wins at Snet and all we said was "well done, mate"...........

Its the Gucci handbags that cause that Paul ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

You should try on a nice feather boa, It'd suit you sir! ;)

On a seperate note (whilst I'm still annoyed by it all). Who in their right minds believes that anyone that thought cheating had been going on all year, would wait until the last but one round to make a protest? Why now, why not at the start, mid point, or last round?

Surely, If there had been suspicion from the mid point of the season, then someone would have "encouraged" a paddock pariah.....er, I mean competitor to place a protest way before now...way before the day that Dom only needed a few points to clinch the championship...on a day when all he would have needed was to slot the "legal" motor back in to avoid any inspection nightmares...surely?

You'd have to be an utter simpleton to swallow that kind of cr@p.

I too keep well away from political issues too as a rule, all I want to do is turn up and be given the oportunity to race. We've all concerned about this though, because it's potentially a serious threat to the series we all love so much, and have invested so much in.
It's not that the protest happened - Anthony has every right to protest Dom's bike, provided he's prepared to pay the fees, I don't believe anyone has a serious issue with that. It's the fact that he's been sponsored to do so by persons as yet undisclosed, and "encouraged" to do so by the race committee, that we're finding hard to swallow. I'm another that has never suspected Dom's bike of being in any way illegal, and I've personally never heard any rumours or opinions expressed by any other riders to that effect either. I shall keep riding in the series (as long as there's a series to ride in) and I'll wait for all the facts to be presented before making any accusations, but it certainly looks more than fishy from where I'm standing, and it's easy to jump to the conclusion that the protest was pushed forward as a form of personal attack on Dom rather than being based on any real evidence. No doubt the true facts will come out over the next few days, and if that is the case then I would expect some action to be taken.