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jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 20:56

Security of PM's
 
Can anyone inform me how secure personal messages are and who has access to them?
If I were to put confidential details in one, are they as secure as any email we would normally send?

Sharpy G 14-Sep-2006 20:57

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Originally Posted by jeff st4s
Can anyone inform me how secure personal messages are and who has access to them?
If I were to put confidential details in one, are they as secure as any email we would normally send?


send me your credit card details as a test if you like ! LOL

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:00

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Originally Posted by Sharpy G
send me your credit card details as a test if you like ! LOL


Will you be my friend then, I don't seem to have any now? :(


:lol: :lol: :lol:

AK 14-Sep-2006 21:07

security?

depends on who you are jeff:rolleyes: ;)

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:10

I'm beginning to get some sort of Bin Laden complex.

:lol: :lol:

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:15

Would the peeps who run the web site not have a way of accessing them. OOoeeerrr makes you wonder who could be noseing around. Also is it possable to see who is watching a thread of yours????:o :o :o :o

Sharpy G 14-Sep-2006 21:17

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Originally Posted by jeff st4s
Will you be my friend then, I don't seem to have any now? :(


:lol: :lol: :lol:


even just added you to my buddy list !

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:18

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Originally Posted by Sharpy G
even just added you to my buddy list !



Where do I send the cheque?

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:19

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Originally Posted by Sharpy G
even just added you to my buddy list !

Was that a wise move??? Tar and brush spring to mind.:cool:

Allso is this Jeff:alien:

Carbon749 14-Sep-2006 21:20

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Originally Posted by jeff st4s
Where do I send the cheque?


I'd PM you an address but someone else may read it :eek:

Sharpy G 14-Sep-2006 21:21

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Originally Posted by doogalman
Was that a wise move??? Tar and brush spring to mind.:cool:

Allso is this Jeff:alien:


Que ?

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:22

Jeff has a smilie modeled on him:alien:

domski 14-Sep-2006 21:26

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Originally Posted by jeff st4s
Security of PM's


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:27

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Originally Posted by doogalman
Was that a wise move??? Tar and brush spring to mind.:cool:

Allso is this Jeff:alien:



:lol: :lol:

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:28

The smilie ain't looking too good either.:alien: :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:
Now theres 5 of them.

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:28

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Originally Posted by Carbon749
I'd PM you an address but someone else may read it :eek:



You've not started a vicious rumour have you?

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:31

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Originally Posted by doogalman
Jeff has a smilie modeled on him:alien:


Even after they take away my membership, I'll be there to remind you of how much fun life can be, unless they delete my smilie too.

andyb 14-Sep-2006 21:32

They can and im sure are read...............................but then im just cynical!

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:33

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Originally Posted by andyb
They can and im sure are read...............................but then im just cynical!

So who would have access. Webteam please can you clarify.:ninja:

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 21:34

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Originally Posted by andyb
They can and im sure are read...............................but then im just cynical!


Don't you know someone, under cover or maybe MI5 that can check it out for us, on the side like. Slip him a fiver, ask no questions tell no lies, god I've gone all cockney after seeing Kim's dad last night.

:eek: :eek:

webteam 14-Sep-2006 21:36

In a minute, I'm on the phone at the moment......

doogalman 14-Sep-2006 21:37

Data protection etc etc.

domski 14-Sep-2006 21:56

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Originally Posted by doogalman
So who would have access.


There is no option for Admins or anyone else to read other people's PMs in vB. However anyone with access to the database could read them directly in the db.

Also there are several 'hacks' which can be used by admins (and anyone else they give details to) to access every part of the forum to read whatever they want.

Basically, nothing is safe on ANY forum!!

So if you have anything private to send somebody, do it in an email - or speak to them on the phone!!

antonye 14-Sep-2006 21:58

I think (although I may be wrong) that vb actually uses a simple form of encryption on PMs, but don't hold me to that. That's not to say that it can't be decrypted by someone with the knowledge or will to do it.

domski 14-Sep-2006 22:00

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Originally Posted by antonye
I think (although I may be wrong) that vb actually uses a simple form of encryption on PMs, but don't hold me to that. That's not to say that it can't be decrypted by someone with the knowledge or will to do it.


Yes, I believe that is an option available, but not a default setting (unless v3.5.4 is different?)

I've just been reading up on it on the vB forums.

There is also a way for admins to log in as 'any' user too, so basically - nothing is safe.

Not saying that DSC peeps are untrustworthy, just that nothing on any forum is safe. This is the internet afterall!!!

antonye 14-Sep-2006 22:02

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Originally Posted by domski
There is also a way for admins to log in as 'any' user too, so basically - nothing is safe.


Very true - simply set the password to blank through the database and you're in. Reset it to the original (MD5 hashed) value and you're back to normal.

Not that I know these things ;)

crust 14-Sep-2006 22:04

easy enough to do


link here


:)Crust

webteam 14-Sep-2006 22:06

Finished on the phone now!

The answer is pretty much as Domski says above - only webadmin people (myself, Flanks and Frank) have the necessary database passwords to be able to 'hack' into the database should the need arise. I doubt that either Flanks or Frank have the required software though to access the database direct!

The PM's (and anything else on the web) is as secure as an email - i.e. unsecure !!! Emails do not always go to the people they were intended to go to (that's why so many companies put disclaimers at the end of their emails these days) and you should never send complete credit card info on an email. I've seen some people who send the main numbers on one email and the expiry date info on a second - then only if both emails go astray can anyone make use of the information. Having said that I would personally never transmit financial info via an email - much more secure to use a phone !

As for any of the webteam reading peoples PMs... why would we, there's enough stuff to read on the main website ! Anyway we do have other things to do with our lives as well :D :D

Eamonn.

domski 14-Sep-2006 22:10

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Originally Posted by webteam
only webadmin people (myself, Flanks and Frank) have the necessary database passwords to be able to 'hack' into the database should the need arise.


...and anyone you gave the details to ;)

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As for any of the webteam reading peoples PMs... why would we

Why wouldn't you? I bet it's very interesting! :)

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Anyway we do have other things to do with our lives as well :D :D

Not everyone has such full and varied lives though Eamonn, but I get your point!

I don't think the integrity of the webteam would ever be in question.

There are other people within the club that I wouldn't trust further than I could bounce off my bonnet!

Fordie 14-Sep-2006 22:10

I think to anwser you original question can PM be accessed Yes

I believe so,but only under exceptional sucumstances. In this modern world nothing is secret. If we are to protect people from the horror's of slander access is available Im sure 4D

( Looks like Im a little late on this one must type faster )

jeff st4s 14-Sep-2006 22:23

[quote=domski
I don't think the integrity of the webteam would ever be in question.

There are other people within the club that I wouldn't trust further than I could bounce off my bonnet![/QUOTE]


I agree with the first part.

The second.
:lol: :lol:

ducati dad 15-Sep-2006 01:10

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Originally Posted by jeff st4s
Don't you know someone, under cover or maybe MI5 that can check it out for us, on the side like. Slip him a fiver, ask no questions tell no lies, god I've gone all cockney after seeing Kim's dad last night.

:eek: :eek:

Get it right! It's "Bung 'im a jacks, nudge nudge".


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