Snetterton Protest
 

Open letter to the Desmodue Race Committee:

On another thread Anthonye has stated that Chris Bushell arranged payment for the protest on Domski's race bike at Snetterton. As a sponsor of riders and teams in the series I am still concerned at the turn of events that lead up to the protest and I invite Chris, as a member of the DD Race Committee, to publically provide answers to the following questions:

1 Who paid for the protest?
2 Why was a member of the RC and this club's MT involved in placing the protest?
3 Why did the RC go against the recommendation of the club Chairman in making the protest?

Everyone involved in the race series and who supports the club should want to have transparency in serious issues of this nature and I hope that Chris and the RC will take this opportunity to put the record straight so that we can all move on.

Henry

You have PM.

I think you'll find everyone else is trying to move on.....they haven't got a hidden agenda?

Chris - my agenda is spelt out in my note above. I've invested a lot of money this year in this series and I want some answers.

Henry

Another day, a different issue. Same old one or two people recycling the same old rubbish. Yawn.
Bit daft investing money into a club (to which DD belongs) that you take every opportunity to drag into the gutter.
As the man says above. Move on.

Not me. I'm really tired of that. I'm a lot more than tired but I don't know the right word. Bl00dy foreigners.
Please guys, here is not the right place for that.

We all know something wrong happened. We all have ideas about who has been really wrong that day. And? What do you expect to do? I'm sure your motivation is right Henners, but the way you do it is not. Nobody is fool enough to publicly reckon they're wrong when they are. Especially in such a context, when people have been fighting for so long.

According to me, you're not helping the series doing that. As much as the people who raised that protest, you both are so wrong.

That thread will lead to nothing but division of the remaining people not yet divided.

It seems so many people are trying to destroy the race series I love... From both sides, the MT side and the other side...

That's not fair to us, us who only race, own bikes and spend time preparing them, and to the fans who love the series cause their mates are racing and so they make all the meetings.

Anyway, I'm so ****ed off that I should better think about something else.

Last thing:
As a DSC paid-up member fed up with all the politics going on here, as a DD racer who loves the series (yeah I already said it), as a mate of Dom & Chass who support them in what they went through, I ask the webteam to remove that thread because I do think it can only hurt our series even more.

I think the only way to move on, is to get the reasons for the protest out into the open, not just pretend it never happened.
seems like chass is still in two minds whether to continue as a sponsor in the series, and the originator of this thread seems to be feeling the same way.
very understandably so!
scaring off sponsors from a race series is disasterous.

is a strip and rebuild going to be hanging over the head of whoever wins?
this is supposed to be "cheaper" racing, and this adds massively to the cost of the season. what if you hadn't got the money for a rebuild - ebay?

I have commited to buy a 620 to race next season, but I won't waste any time trying to attract sponsors until this is all put to bed...

I've invested more money than you for 2 years now. That's why I want this thread to be deleted.

Nothing personnal Henners, I don't know you and don't dislike you.
I'm just trying to protect what I like.

"another useful post" - remember that quote???

Khushy

good call!

There are already enough people in the DD community that are trying to drive a wedge between DD and the DSC without this!

Tony I understand your point. But that thread won't do any good to the series or even resolve that conflict.

Things don't change when people do some virtual talking on a public forum. Nobody cares about what we write here. Not even Shell and Pirelli :lol:

Things change when people stick together, meet and talk. See you at Cadwell my friend.

same quest, different routes ;)

I want to know the truth as much as you do Tony, but not like this. This thread is going nowhere, just like all the others.

Can I remind you that we didn't take the Bastille on a message board? :lol:
I know a fair bit in term of revolution :lol:

Couch, History is where we learn our lessons Good or Bad this country or abroad. Please don't knock history we will all be part of it one day.hopefully this episode in our DSC history will be just that HISTORY. Time to move on and look to the future Im sure DD is a live and well especially with guys like Tonio in the paddocks 4D

having raced in a 1 make series albeit a long time ago - this sort of thing is bound to happen, which is why there are rules and formalities. does the DD series have a protocol for protests? surely? and was it adhered too?
usually part of that protocol is advising who has made the protest. there is should be no bad vibes in the protest process unless it all gets secretive and rumours fly etc etc. or people want to make something of it - protests are a part of the process of ensuring fairness. Used to happen all the time in the production-based series - it was par for the course and no big deal.

Henners has a point with item 1, but items 2 and 3 are "stirring it".

It was me that paid.....

Now what are you going to do?
How does that affect your next posting?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I knew that thread wouldn't bring anything interesting...

NOBODY is trying to drive a wedge between DD and DSC at all. Unless you know different?

If I protested Antony at Cadwell - would everyone be OK with that?

I think it would merely confirm many peoples opinions on what you really are !!!

I am surprised you can find the start line with your head so far up your A**e.

I get sick of seeing your posts on what a hero you are, and before the Mt threaten to ban me again for 'upsetting' you they can keep my membershiop and ban me, sick of hearing what a 'Wonder Boy' you are.......get a life.

Many of us have competing and won at much higher levels than you, but do not thrust it down eveyones throat at every opportunity ......CONGRATULATIONS........now shut up and get on with it.

INCOMING !!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, where do I start?


So it's OK to protest me, but I can't protest anyone else? That's fantatstic. As long as I'm not being singled out then!


Ummm... explain?


Oh how the irony was lost on you!!

The name Wonderboy is not a self chosen one - it's how I was referred by a member of the RC. So I guess even they hold me in high esteem - or perhaps they were taking the pi$$???


Is that right?

I didn't know their were many British race winners here. I take my hat off to you, you must be very proud.


...and I do?

Please link me to some posts ;)


Thanks.


I think I did all season. Did you not see the results?


Always a pleasure :D

I wouldn't have a problem with it if that's what you wanted to do.

I signed up for the rules of the ACU when racing, and I have to abide by those rules to continue racing - the same as everyone else.

I know my bike is legal but others may not think so, and that's their opinion. I'm not going to let anyone have a shuftie over our bike as we've made modifications that have kept me at the sharp end over this season - a mean feat given the lack of skills of the pilot! - and we want to keep them to ourselves to get every little advantage we can.

It'll be a pain in the arse but the rules are the rules and it's racing, not a friendly trackday or country bimble!

So you didn't get "the phonecall" either then? :lol:

I apologise if this thread is upsetting some of you
 

... especially folk who I thought I had a good realationship with like Annette.

I can not get away from the fact that something is not right here and as long as that appears to be the case then I will use all reasonable means to persue it, the same approach I use in all my dealings with people. Yes we can choose to ignore what happened, sweep it under the carpet and 'move on' however how does that serve the race series?

Fordie said that we should learn from history and I agree - one of the lessons that history has taught me is that you don't build a good future whilst there is a cloud hanging over the present. I simply want that cloud lifting, for the truth to be told and yes Phil - I can handle it :)

Now we're talking!! Someone who clearly knows his onions :lol:

I got to say I agree with you Ian (sorry about that). A lot of what I say is humour and those that know me are fully aware of that. Some people don't get it, but then feel the need to bitch about it - You don't see me complaining about stuff I have no interest in!

I also don't lie or bull****, that way I know I can't be caught out in the future. I have my opinions and I tell it how I see it - despite some people thinking I'm a mouth-piece for my sponsors! Which I am not, look...

Henners, I am not your mouth piece!

...glad I could clear that up.

Once again the world of DD is spun on to his arse by people in power, making poor decisions. Then the riders affected who try to raise awareness of these facts, get shot down by people who have no idea what they're on about, and "In my day, blah blah blah".

Face it. If you're pi$$y about my posts, you'd damn well be pi$$ed off if your bike was protested for no other reason than because you upset somebody.

As I have said on here, and to Antony's face - I have no issue with him, or being protested - providing it's not just coz I upset someone!

Anyway, the people who are affected and those that race in DD or are involved with DD in some way, know what happened. It's just a shame that the people who instigated the protest aren't big enough to admit it and they have to hide behind Antony - which I think stinks, and shows the type of people we are dealing with.

At least the protest proved one thing. The best man won. Fair and square. Never met you Domski. , but well done . As for the protest , it happens all the time thats motorsport. Even at top level (no DISRESPECT) there are complete knobs that don't recognise a quick rider who can get the best out of what the rules permit. Sometimes the protest are right (remember RobMac running the 810yzf) I would assume Domski has accepted the fact he won fairly so why not everyone else move on.

Thanks :)


Agreed, and we have no problem with a GENUINE protest...

...but this wasn't, and that's why we're still talking about it.

Sadly talking will get nowhere because some people are spineless. Untill they get a backbone nothing will change.

Very true, although I think this is part of the therapy.

Funnily enough neither member of the RC have posted since the Snetterton race (Chris has posted once). They're on here reading everything though.

Just another coincidence I expect.

Henry, darling. I finally lost patience with you when you used Wednesday evening to continue your political agenda. Blimey, you didn't stop for over an hour. Wrong time; wrong place; wrong bird to p*ss off.
Get over it. Get a f*cking life.

A girl with attitude, Great:o You tell him girl:frog:

Annette ...................... love you.

Getting 'having a life' should be part of DSC membership criterea, there are many who would benefit........step up the CHUMPION !!!!!!

Henry,

I too have spent a fair amount of sponsorship money but feel no need to pusue those who, unlike Anthony have yet to stand up, but then maybe I haven't got an agenda??? At some stage the truth will out, so until then..................chill!

sorry Pete, I disagree mate.

Having been at Snett as well as all the other meetings with both our bikes, as an owner & part sponsor I would like to see this all cleared up.

Maybe the forum is not the best place, but things do need airing.

I dont have any agenda except to see fair play and to put our bikes on the grid.
There were many at the meeting who were quite miffed at the goings on there, and I think that even an email from the DD RC might have helped in this instance, but apart from one yesterday which had nothing to do with Snett, there has been a strong silence.

What doesnt help is people who were not involved in the racing, were not at this particular round, not privy to anything to do with the paddock (apart from sponsors like yourself & Henners etc) adding fuel to this.

Edited to add: as an owner, I would like to see this cleared up, and then we are able to finish the season on a good note, and then review the coming 2007 season.

:)

As an interested 'bystander' any chance of anyone airing the facts of what went on ???

Well, I won both races...

Oh hang on, you probably don't want me to explain this do you!

;)

Right, I can't be arsed to log out, and log back in as Webteam. I'm closing this thread before it gets any more out of control. It's Friday night, i love my beer (as some of you know) so let me enjoy it.

There is a method to make a complaint about anything that happened in DD, see Pronto 34.

It's time to move on again, not much to see. Thank you ladies and gentlemen of the gallery.