What would happen if...
 

...I sent my £200 cheque in for DD 2007, and then I joined another race series?

Would my cheque get cashed?

:confused:

You'd be a member of two race series - greedy fugger!!

Hrmm, just wondered why it's neccessary to risk losing £200 now when the season is over 5 months away.

Circumstances change y'know and the rules/regs/RC hasn't been sorted out yet.

I may get that call from Ducati Corse :lol:

I think that's the whole point of a deposit, to be cashed when people don't honour their commitment... isn't it?

:D

I think 2 years attending every DD meeting shows committment.

:confused:

Do you know what you'll all be doing in 5 months time?

I did know there was some kind of subliminal message here :lol:
You never give it a rest do you? :D

PEACE AND LOVE FOR **** SAKE :lol:

WHat's that story about Ducati Corse, do they need a truck driver?

Nope, that's why I won't be sending anything before next February :D

:frog: :lol:

That's the kind of lack of commitment I like :D

Nice one Tonionio :lol:

Anyway it's bed time, I better leave that thread before there is blood all over the walls :D

:lol::lol::o

I wish you would... and take Ian, tim, ali and a few others with you... that'd be great, thanks!

:devil:

I feel the same way. I understand the club need an idea how many riders are interested for next season as soon as poss.
how about riders sorting the membership forms, along with a post dated cheque - a sort of a "letter of intent"?
or a non refundable deposit?

That's a good idea! How about a £200 non refundable deposit? :rolleyes:

Thats pretty mush how it has been explaind to me by one of the RC /MT members, the view being that it shows commitment and also offers the RC/MT something to bargin with when talking to Newera.

Murray

Absolutely right mate.

1) The riders want the Club to organise a series.

2) The Club goes to New Era to get tracks and races. New Era looks for commitment, from the Club.

3) New Era & the DSC agree so many prospective riders in each class, thus we need 1 or 2 grids, etc.

4) If riders dont commit up front, then how are the Club able to commit?

I realise it is all chiken & egg, but trust (commitment) has to start somewhere.

New team then dom?????

we no you somerset lads stick together

can i help you at monza/ brno / assen / te he he

http://www.motoforum.net/index.php?showtopic=17817

yo ucan join as many race series as you want, if you mean you showed commitment by placing a £200 deposit and then you didn't honour that commitment I would fully expect you to lose your £200 :)

Ooh, Tom's cousin Paul (Gladwin) raced for Beowulf ;)

I'll just keep my cheque in my pocket then until I know what I can do.

it's your cheque ? Just don't drop it...feck knows where it would bounce too ;) ;) ;)

That's another great reason to keep it in my pocket!!

I don't even have £200!! :(

you can defend your title and race.............................lol

I'd like to. Just don't know what is happening yet. It's a long old way away to March 2007.

say we pay our £200, and 5 months on cannot fund a season, buy a bike etc. - we won't be able to race irrespective of joining the club. we would just be £200 worse off :(
would be good if a deposit would suffice - say £50 not refundable?

Sorry, know I'm not involved with DD but I'm a bit confused as to what exactly the club commits to with New Era? is it just an idea of numbers or a commitment in financial terms like a trackday would be?

Then don't commit now, wait till next year.
I'm sure if a major disaster occurs the club will look at your situation, racing is expensive and if you can afford it now then why wouldn't you be able to in March (disasters excepted) ?

Most of this is common sense, the club wants to approach new era and the club has certain things we want. By showing our commitment gives us more chance of getting the things we want. If we didn't show the commitment we would place ourselves more in the hands of new era. It's good to have bargaining tools in any sort of discussion.

Yeah you do...we all got a copy of draft rules / regs....................;-0

I re-state that this is a bit of what comes 1st chicken or the egg?

The deposit cheques dont get cashed now, we hold them on file, as in previous years.

In part we need people to commit to racing now, so that we can negotiate with New Era and secure the best option for the riders.

The alternative is to go along to New Era in say March, when you have made your minds up and see what left overs we can get and then race with that.

I think I know which version of this the riders actually want.

Then I'd say change your team name to 'Not-at-all-rich-racing.co.uk'

Sorry could...not......resist

I'll get my coat

TBH if you're gonna buy a bike the day before the meeting you may be waiting a little too long :)

my post was intended to be constructive. what is your post supposed to be?

I found it funny :)
Come on mate, Jools' post was not that offending... Don't you guys call that "banter"?

I'm all for a bit of banter, but I keep it for people I know, and so know the context in which it will be taken.

Bump, anyone?.......

Sorry, missed that one earlier Michael.

It is more a case of New Era getting commitment from us to take grids at the meetings really. In any given season there are a number of possible new series likely to start up and require grids at the meetings. After this season we have it on good authority that there is likely to be a juggling of series to try and satisfy all who want to race. To that end it looks like being in our best interest to compete in both Superclub and Club level events which is why one of the questions on the 2006 rider survey asked if there was a preference from within our current riders.

ACU have just announced a new seies that they will be promoting where riders sign up to a deal which includes a gixer 600 for the season, they will have to race somewhere and I'm not sure if it will be at national, superclub or club level. Just an example of the sort of things that can happen

There is a big shuffle during the closed season every year and we want to ensure that we get grids allocated sooner rather than later. It's a business from the point of view of New Era and they have to commit to a big wedge of payment, far in excess of what we pay to hire a track for a track day for every race meeting they put on(weekends are obviously premiun rate and the additional staffing etc. adds to this).

Bottom line the sooner we get a good idea of takeup the better chance we have of negotiating the best options for our riders.

Hope this clarifies in some way, if not feel free to give me a call or email.

The DSC club does not commit anything financially, is that the question.?

The commitment as I think Chris B explained, is where the DD riders, express intent and commitment by sending in a completed application form and a £200 cheque. Chris B or who ever, can then talk to New era from a position confidence with X amount of riders who have applied to race DD next year and completed a form and attached a cheque. As a supplier, New Era should be comforted knowing that there are actually a core of DD riders who have demonstrated an intent to race, not just sitting on the fence waiting for the best thing to come along...etc...

That's my view, I'm happy with the process, it's worked for the last two years?!

absolutely.......................it has worked so what is the issue.....i can understand concerns but i have not heard of anyone's cheque being cashed...........................

We all wanted the rules n regs sorted....now we have them ..lets get signed up.!

So Chris b, how many forms have you got so far?