Is Henners Banned from posting ?
 

Can some one publicly tell us if Henners is banned from the DSC ?

It has come to my attention that his posts are going missing or not going on forum.

Is this censorship at it's worst ?


I do hope that this is a oversite as I am sure that most of the DSC membership are happy to read his comments !!!!!!


Please MT lets have a sensible reply and an honest one !!!!!!!!


Age

No, he's not banned just 'moderated'. Sometimes people are put into this moderated status (BTW Henry isn't the only one right now) for a short time. All it means is that any posts have to be viewed by a member of the webteam prior to them being publically visible.
It is anticipated that this is only a short term measure and will be removed very soon.

Eamonn.

Could I ask respectfully ask why ???

Big brother in action then.

I am sorry but why have you the right to censor his posts !

as I understand it you are voted on to the MT by the members of the dsc so surley you need to put it to the membership of the dsc if you feel you need to censor someones posts.

Perhaps this is being done because his posts hit a little close to home ???

This is a Membership and a public forum It is only here beause the membership pay its fees.

Can I ask if henners was informed of this action against him ?

Age

Due to continued harassment of other club members.

In the past, posters have had temporary bans from the system, in this case a ban was not appropriate.

Eamonn.

Why my sponsor AND friend was moderated?

Hrmmm... You need to do more research.

Correct you need to ban the source not the sponsors as per our previous emails ?!?!?!?!?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you still here?

I have the right to censor as I was voted into the position of webteam by the membership and moderation of posts is one of the required functions of that position.

Taking a vote from the membership everytime I moderated a posting would not be a practical way of working.

It's a membership forum not a public forum. There are areas open to the public, but only because the members voted for it to be that way at an AGM.

No specific message was sent to Henry - that was my fault as I was busy moderating other threads (!). Henry and I have PM'd each other this evening.

Eamonn.

Yes...Dom I am still here.............. would you like the rules changed to restrict my posting times !!

Why would I want that?

I don't care who posts or when or how much (or even if it's all about them - which posts are by their very nature - personal opinion), but it gets very tedious when someone chases you around a forum posting lies.

That's all.

Lies ??

That's slander prove it ??

I'm still waiting for you to disprove it. You keep going on about how all my sponsors don't like me. I suppose that's not slander?

:rolleyes:

oi you 2 you are detracting from my fun post

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...ad.php?t=37714

and I will take that naughty boy "H" with me so I can keep an eye on him!

OK, let me get this straight:

When someone post things that the MT don't agree with, they get moved onto the 'moderated list'.

When someone posts, on multiple threads, a continuous tirade of abuse against someone the MT doesn't agree with, it's allowed to go un-checked.

Am I the only one to think this is very 'interesting'?

loosely speaking

slander is verbal misrepresentation/defamation of character
libel is written

Mike
The best way forward is to report the posts in question using the Bad Post Report button. I'm not saying that that addresses your implicit question, I'm just suggesting that that is the best way forward. If you get my meaning.

Bottom line in the Terms and conditions that all users of the board agree to as a condition of using the site:

"The Club reserves the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason."

Plainly visible in the 'Forum Rules' section (button on main bar) also:

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/rules.php

Cheers - Frank

Yeeaaassss.... but, Loz, you have to admit that it doesn't sound right? I'm sure the webteam will be along shortly and clear up the worst of Dave's scatological out bursts... but if there was anyone more deserving of being put on a Moderated List then I've not come across them. Meanwhile I'm not aware of anything that Henners has posted that has been so objectionable (to me as a member rather than the MT at least).

Thank god for answers.com :lol:


Agreed.

Who exactly is "the club" in this instance

how many people have to object about a thread/poster before it or they are removed?

Personally I would remove every post with the phrase "iconic 916" (no offence Henners), but I cant, so if I and every other member cant censor opinions we dont agree with why can a priviledged few do so, just because they dont agree?

Come on TEAM, take a more dispassionate view, and allow the club to breath

Good grief - this is getting all so ridiculous :rolleyes:

If you really feel the need to play big brother then at least be consistant!

I can see one poster in here at least who does not comply with the AUP rules

General Rule 1.1

So wheres the - report this post- button ?

I do hope that the offending posts are withdrawn soon (if they haven't been already). It's simply a matter of reporting the posts to ensure that the WT are aware.

If for some reason the posts are left in place and you are unhappy with this (as I would be if I reported them), I would ask the WT to justify their actions - via a PM.

Some matters are best dealt with quietly. We are all (mostly all) entitled to free speech, but there's a responsibility incumbent on all of us when we exercise that right. Consideration of the consequences and all that.

It's the red triangle icon near the bottom left of each post (although you don't see that icon when viewing your own posts!).

Thanks

"But some are more entitled than others." Ok, bad Animal Farm reference but one that I think is appropriate here.

Mike
I believe that some of the offending posts from this evening are getting dealt with - threads disappearing as we speak - so there's some progress on dealing with the alleged double-standards of censorship that you're concerned about.
If there's concern about the wider issue of double standards - a quiet word with the WT should clear that up. If it doesn't ... well, one step at a time, let's not seek trouble before it's happened.

Thanks for that Frank, it made me read the T&C again.

I can't help but notice the distinct lack of any provision in there to put forum participants on a "moderated list". Could you point me to the relevant section please?

Mike
Just butting in here, but the mechanism by which the WT moderate posts is somewhat irrelevant, provided the moderating is done within the spirit of the DSC rules.
Of more interest to me is how long Henry's moderation period going to be. Is it a set time limit, or an open-ended one? I, like others, miss his presence here.
It's not 100% clear to me why he is being moderated, although the reasons for this do not need to be discussed in a forum open to the public. Webteam, is this something that can be discussed by DSC members in the DSC only form? Obviously, non-members won't be able to contribute directly to that discussion although I feel certain that their voices will still be heard.

I hear he got six months but with parole he should be out in four :D

Anyway ... who needs the board, there are other ways to continue chat with friends and debate the issues of the day ... funny enough it all seems to be in a good and friendly spirit as well :smug:

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2.

Unfortunately point 1 is in direct opposition to point 2. I too am puzzled as to why Henners is being moderated. As far as I am aware, he hasn't contravened any of the listed items in the T&C. I am aware that he is not popular with the MT after events earlier this year.

Meanwhile, another member demonstrates flagrant disregard of T&C items 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and possibly 1.5 and is allowed to post un-moderated. The fact that this abuse of the T&C has been directed towards someone else who is not popular with the MT I find 'interesting'.

I certainly don't believe this is best left unchallenged, hushed up, done by PM or email, etc. This is a discussion forum, after all, and this matter is definitely worthy of discussion.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnn i don't believe some of you guys....

the guy has been 'moderated' for what the people who you PAID and VOTED in as MT members for the good of the club... .they have not moderated him because they were bored or throwing the toys out of the pram, they will have done it for the good of DSC...

you ALL voted for these people and entrusted them with this task.... now they enforce it, you start moaning like 5 year olds.

Sigh.

Guys,
I never like getting involved in club politics but this doesn't feel at all right.It is well known that i am good friends with Henners and therefore wont pass any comment on his passion for this club but to stop debate is setting us all on a rather difficult path and when informed and moderate members such as Rally and 749er to name but a few,put their points of veiw as they have and as well as they have then it is time to rethink, reconsider and reveiw core values.

Debate and sometimes opposition to various issues, as annoying as it might be should be incouraged as this is the sign of a healthy club ,any club veto should only be used as a last resort and with full transparency and benefit to all the members.

MT please !!!, this is now getting to the heart and minds of the moderate in this wonderfull club

Welcome to the 'Ducati unsporting club'..

Its like a playground here at the moment.."But sir,he said blah blah wibble.."

Anyone who comes and views this board with a view to becoming a member,must be wetting themselves at some of the stuff that is going on..

Moggers@behindthebikeshed.com

actually - this is a PUBLIC forum as anyone can register - you dont have to be a member of the DSC to particpate.

Could this be the death of the DSC Online?

I hope not.

Khushy

www.ducatisti.co.uk
 

unmoderated and far more sensible!

Khushy

Agreed, but

a. If you're not a MEMBER of the club, surely you have to accept they can decide whether to allow you to post.

b. You sign up to the rules and T&C's in advance.

c. The members vote in the MT and WT etc....

God it gets on my nerves when people who pay nothing expect everything as their right, and complain when someone who does pay complains about them !

Hah !
Thank you non-member weeksyracing ;)
Perhaps your alter ego weeksy2 could make a comment too ?