Reality Check!!!
 

Why is it that when/if 2 (or more) people disagree on a subject on here, that it is seen (by some) as bringing the club down?

What complete nonsense.

Having an opinion has got nothing to do with bringing the club down.

IF the arguements get out of hand (like some do) then that may not look good for the club - BUT - don't go accusing people of purposfully bringing the club down.

It's winds me up when people point fingers (at me especially) and then come out with "You're splitting the club" or "Why are you bringing the club down", personally, I've never done that or set out with the intention of doing that and I don't think anyone else has either - that I have seen anyway.

So, get off your moral high horses and have a spoon of reality check!!

NOBODY is trying to destroy the club, but some people have differing opinions on some subjects - shock horror!!!

By trying to take the DD race series away from DSC that's EXACTLY what you are doing.


in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.

Walking in and stealing members and the series away from the club is beyond disgraceful.

boys see my thread and take the chill pill !

http://www.ducatisportingclub.com/sh...ad.php?t=37894

mav

In that case you will be resigning from the club then Domski and I warrant you much of the problems on this board will then disappear.

And please, when you resign, do it gracefully and quietly!

Mav, peace and morale officer :D

Ummm... I'm not doing anything of the sort.

That's a strong accusation.

I may have been consulted about such a series, but I'm not pushing for it.

However, you seem to know all about it so I won't bother saying any more - you'll be able to **** me off all you like when I get banned at the end of the month (apparantly).

at the meeting it was asked

"who are the 'Evo Group' of riders who are pushing for this series?" i think by Chris Wood.

You were one of the 5 were you not ? you were the one sitting there holding your hand up and saying "yes, i'm one"...

Yes that's exactly what happened.

Guilty as charged :rolleyes:

assuming you're being sarcastic here....

What exactly did happen then ??

there were 30 people in the room at the time (or so)

Can anyone else confirm i'm right or wrong with this here please guys...

Wasn't this what happend ?

Well for god's sake resign gracefully and don't get dragged through the mud.

btw I know you're not playing with irony now are you;)

[quote=weeksyracing]
in any other walk of life your actions would be considered treason and you'd be hung for it.
QUOTE]

fcuk me get a grip on reality.

a move away from the DSC was mooted as its was percieved by some; rightly or wrongly (their free opinion) that it could be run better under a different 'team'. the general consensus was, that was correct but would rather keep it within DSC. there is now a meeting on the 18th to try and move forward.

there really are some drama queens on here, and its the same old story in that most have no real committment in DD.

[quote=dickieducati]

You're missing the point Dickie....

Dom is a member of this site..and this series....

he's trying to removed this club from the equation and take it away from DSc...

It's like walking into a local pub and telling everyone to leave and come to your pub as the beer is better and cheaper....

Would that be acceptable ?

p.s IT'S NOT ABOUT DD... it's about right and wrong... it's about ettiquette, form, and doing the right thing. It just so happens that it's in relation to the DD series.

Think the DSC is ****, fine, clear off and start another club, just stop decrying the efforts of others, pulling down all what’s been achieved by endless whinging about what hasn’t. If so many are hacked of with this one you won’t have any problem will you?

Do the whingers march into Sainsburys and bawl at the top of their voice, this shop is ****, yer crisps are 1p more than ASDA and there are on the wrong aisle for weeks on end…………no? didn’t think so, so don’t do it here thank you very much.
Try it some time and see how long it is before you are “escorted” from the premises, customer (member) or not.

Keep it real

Ray.

[quote=weeksyracing]
Hmmm - to use your analogy, if the people in the pub thought that they could get cheaper and better beer and had already chosen to drink in that pub, then they'd speak to the existing pub to get them to change their beer - wouldn't they?

This is what's happening with the DD and DSC, some ideas for improvement have been suggested and we feel that if we can get them within the existing framework (cheaper, better beer in the same pub) it will be best for all.

Tim

Yes but the bloke who came in from the other pub still wouldn't be allowed to drink in there would he ?

i'm not saying the club shouldn't listen Tim, or that nothing needs fixing, i agree it does 100%.

but Dom is looking for suppport and IMO tried to take the series away from the club... you were at the meeting with me and the others... you saw and heard what was said and who was running it.

Wrong, every paid up member of the DSC has made a commitment to DD whether, in retrospect or otherwise, they want to.

Also, answer me this Dickie as you appear (to me anyway) to have strong and vocal views about DD.

I want to get a team into DD for 2007. I have a very good budget, lucky to get some amazing sponsorship and possibly a very quick rider (who is also watching these developments with interest). We might do very well if we can buy and prep the right bike.

We want to do it fairly and we want to do it right in a tight knit series!

Will we get that Dickie? Can you assure me that people will not cheat or try to divide the series etc, etc?

I love motorcycle racing but I'm **** at doing it!
I'm a director of two businesses - I'm good at management!

You're selling to me now Dickie ... with everything that has gone on ... should we do it? Persuade me?

[quote=Rattler]
Quite so, but what do you do if da management choose for what they feel are their own valid reasons to run the pub as they see fit, i.e. leave beer and prices as they are?

Do you continue to complain or leave?? Continue complaing and then what happens??...........the dreaded words............You're barred, the Licence holder has the right to serve who he/she sees fit.

Time will tell who is right surely?

The market decides,

Ray.

Am I? :confused:

Coming from you!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

FFS Dom.... YES.... How you can possibly attempt to backtrack and remove yourself from this is truely beyond all comprehension.

you were there, i was there... myself and others asked you specific questions, you answered them as an organiser/part of the breakaway series...

you were touted by Mike Winter as being part of the breakaway group, you, butch, AK, the guy on the floor (apologies i missed who he was) and Mike...


I was sober as i only had 1 beer.

Am I?


I did?


Who was running it?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That made I larf!!

I didn't cheat, rode a totally stock bike, probably the most stock bike on the grid - and I did ok.

:rolleyes:

Mike Winter... you know... the bloke standing in the corner reading it all out.... "i am part of the group looking to break away from DSC and set up a new series, it will be called something like the Ducati cup"

**** was i in some alternate reality that night ?

What Ducati are your brake disks from ?

What Ducati are your brake discs from?

Yamaha? oh, you don't even have a Ducati? or a DD bike?

Hrmm... how about you read the rules and then protest me?

:rolleyes:

So here is a rule from this years DD regulations:

1.6.6 Brakes


Front and rear brake discs may be changed.


The brake disc carriers must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.


Replacement brake discs must be from an OEM Ducati fitment.



So, in answer to my question, on your Cadwell bike, what disks are fitted ?


p.s. i can ASSURE you.... if you're in the series next season, you will be protested more than once.... and yeah, it will be my money being handed over.

thoughts Dom ?

My discs are within the rules.

...and I hope you're feeling rich :frog:

:lol:

Yes, you're right. MW did speak at the rider meeting.

[quote=Ray]
If the management don't listen to what's being asked of them or worse still, not understand why they are being asked to change then they will not ultimately prosper.

But if that pub is the only pub in town, they may feel that they don't have to listen to all of the issues raised by the fee paying punters. And take a stance that says I will keep my beer the same and priced as it is.

If the punters don't feel they have a realistic (or easy) chioice then they will go elsewhere eventually, but will kick up a big stink before they do.

As for barring someone, that might be a dangerous move as he may have the underlying support of the majority of the drinkers and they might also take a stance and not drink in that pub either.

Besides, Mr Banned might run a mini-bus company and run regular evening trips to the pub in the next town!! ;)

Tim

Are you being smart by announcing that? :rolleyes:

Did i ask you questions as an organiser/part of the breakaway group ?

did you answer them ?

[quote=Rattler]
He may even open a bar in Spain?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[quote=Rattler]


very true!

I dunno, did you ask me questions as an organiser?


I expect I gave you my opinion - it is me afterall!!

Can you clarify please ?

these are Ducati OEM disks ? as fitted to what machine in particular ? i'm intrigued to know.

sorry i've got lost in all this, one question....

where is this pub you're all talking about, and do they do smirnoff ice cheap too?

Yes i did....

Yes you did.

You recall ?

"mike, who are the members of the breakaway group organising the new series " (Chris Wood)

"Myself, Chass, Dom, Graham, AK, (randdom bloke i forget)" (Mike Winter)

I think you'll find that will cost you £300.

Save it for next season. You can't protest me two weeks AFTER a race meeting, we may have changed them!!

:o