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TonyH 30-Oct-2006 19:53

Has anyone got one of these?
 
Has anybody bought one of these of ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Delux-H-Duty-M...3300 43306891

Are they any good, would you recommend them, the price seems good but as with most thing you usually get what you pay for.

Is rivetting a chain a difficult job, does it have to be perfect or do you run the risk of the link failing and the mayhem that could follow or would you recommend getting one fitted by your usual mechanic.

chicken 30-Oct-2006 20:59

I've got something similar but without the nice case (which I think is worth having as I keep losing the small bits).

It's not difficult to "rivet" a chain as they usually come with a clip to go around the joining link.

Look for the link with the clip on the existing chain (if it doesn't have one, you will have to do a bit of filing), remove it and temporarily attach the new chain to it and the pull it around the rear sprocket by rotating the wheel (obviously you will have the rear wheel on a stand!)

When you have looped the new chain through, check to make sure that you have enough adjustment for when it stretches out over time (otherwise you will be removing links at a later point).

To attach the clip, use the tool to hold the plate in place, push the clip part way over by hand then use a hammer and screwdriver/blunt chisel to push it in the rest of the way.

btw, that looks an okay price - not a super bargain but not bad considering you pay £40 for a similar one from M&P that comes in a cardboard box.

skidlids 30-Oct-2006 22:05

I have used and broken one of those before, thinking it would be as strong as my splitter, silly mistake, the one I use is about twice the price and a lot stronger.
i can't recall the make (has a pic of a whale on it) but the guy who has a chain stand at Kempton Autojumble sells them and if my information is correct it should be Kempton this Saturday

andys 900ss 30-Oct-2006 22:10

Sounds like a 'Whale' one Kev, thats what I've got.

Andy

ps Good to see you at the DD on Sat, well done for the award.

chicken 30-Oct-2006 22:50

fair point Kev but you do probably get through more chains than your average biker!

I know what you meant about breaking them but I could see the body flexing slightly so I did some more filing before it had the chance to break.

skidlids 31-Oct-2006 00:06

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Originally Posted by chicken
fair point Kev but you do probably get through more chains than your average biker!


Thats probaby true, I have been using the Whale tool for riviting since about 1991 and for splitting chains I use a DD spliter that my dad picked up for me secondhand in 1979.
Good tools are worth the investment and last the distance

chris.p 31-Oct-2006 06:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken

It's not difficult to "rivet" a chain as they usually come with a clip to go around the joining link.

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I think that is a "Split Link" that you are talking about Chicken, to rivet with one of those tools you will need a "Soft Link".

You can get "soft links" for all chains, in fact i think nearly all new chains for larger capacity bikes come with a "Soft Link", I would be loath to use a "Split Link" on any bike above 250cc.


Chris:burn:

duck 31-Oct-2006 06:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyH
Has anybody bought one of these of ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Delux-H-Duty-M...3300 43306891

Are they any good, would you recommend them, the price seems good but as with most thing you usually get what you pay for.

Is rivetting a chain a difficult job, does it have to be perfect or do you run the risk of the link failing and the mayhem that could follow or would you recommend getting one fitted by your usual mechanic.



yes....and i sent it back because it was corroded on 1 side and 1 of the pins was slightly bent. was last year sometime cant remember if it was that seller but it looked the same. i'll see if i can find out

skidlids 31-Oct-2006 08:04

This is the one I have

http://www.bandcexpress.co.uk/cgi-bi...t=CH-ACC-TOOLS

chicken 31-Oct-2006 08:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris.p
I think that is a "Split Link" that you are talking about Chicken, to rivet with one of those tools you will need a "Soft Link".

You can get "soft links" for all chains, in fact i think nearly all new chains for larger capacity bikes come with a "Soft Link", I would be loath to use a "Split Link" on any bike above 250cc.


Chris:burn:


sorry - yes I was talking about a split link (with the little circlip), although this tool should still help with that.

Kev, you are absolutely right - one lesson I have learnt in life is that the quality remains long after the price is forgotten.

I don't mind spending money on socket sets, etc that I use all the time but it is annoying to have to spend a lot on something that gets used very infrequently. Perhaps the solution is to club together with mates who live close by to get a joint set of good tools?

Monty 31-Oct-2006 08:19

"Perhaps the solution is to club together with mates who live close by to get a joint set of good tools?"

Could be a good plan Chi, especially for something like a chain rivetter and splitter. I have a very robust unit that cost about £60-it's a bit like Kev's but different.

John

chicken 31-Oct-2006 08:24

the problem for me with this is that the only person that lives near me is Dibble - and his entire toolkit fits under the seat!

TonyH 31-Oct-2006 08:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken
sorry - yes I was talking about a split link (with the little circlip), although this tool should still help with that.

Kev, you are absolutely right - one lesson I have learnt in life is that the quality remains long after the price is forgotten.

I don't mind spending money on socket sets, etc that I use all the time but it is annoying to have to spend a lot on something that gets used very infrequently. Perhaps the solution is to club together with mates who live close by to get a joint set of good tools?


That’s the dilemma, you do it your self because you enjoy it and to keep the cost down but by the time you have bought every thing you need it ends up costing more than having it fitted, obviously once you’ve got all the tools your laughing it just depends how many times you think you’ll use it to whether you buy one or not.

skidlids 31-Oct-2006 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicken
the problem for me with this is that the only person that lives near me is Dibble - and his entire toolkit fits under the seat!


For some reason I find that very easy to believe

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyH
That’s the dilemma, you do it your self because you enjoy it and to keep the cost down but by the time you have bought every thing you need it ends up costing more than having it fitted, obviously once you’ve got all the tools your laughing it just depends how many times you think you’ll use it to whether you buy one or not.


Tool sharing is the obvious way to go, several of the locals share my tools, I think my Cambelt tensioning tool has spent about a month in my possesion in the last year, the chain tools have been lent out on several occasions, my digital micrometer has been used by the local Honda dealership, its a good job the compressor is to big to cart about otherwise my air tools would always be out somewhere.


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