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Stop press...it's official. Speculation is now dead on 1098 IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Can't upload any pics yet but the UK's MCN today 8th November (UK time 0545am when I bought my copy on my way into work) has the scoop!! 1098 is on their front cover (the "S" version) in all it's glory. Hope to scan in some of the pictures when I get home from work! Looks fabulous |
nothing new on there website this morning |
Cool...I'll go and get my MCN and have a gander, see if it's any different to their web site pics. If it's true that they've got the scoop, what are you gonna do with your spare time now Rod ??? ;) |
I like it. I wonder how many pennies it will cost, could possibly be my first bike ever purchased new |
Pretty much as shown before: ![]() Pic with thanks to MCN. |
And to quote from MCN. "999 Dialled out" Ducati`s flagship superbike followed the 916form from 1993 until the interruption of the 999 in 2002. Now the classic look is back. Ducati`s boss Claudio Dommenicali has had a poster of the original 916 on his office wall throughout the development of the 1098. He is on the record as saying he wanted the 1098 to be a development of the 916 icon in the same way that porsche keeps reinventing the 911. Tellingly, Ducati design boss Pierre Terblanche- The man behind the Multistrada, the sport classic range and the 999- claims to have had no input at all. (because the Multistrada,sports classic`s and 999 were well shite :lol: ) |
yep...................... Got MCN on the way up to MK thismorning looks just like the pics I posted yesterday then. What happened to the Milan secret unveilling then ??? Did Bologna bottle it with all the leaked photos ?? IMHO still not sure I like it, bit too "bitsa" for me not sure it's a new design ? looks like a bit of a combo job front nose looks way too jap and I've only just got away from all that !! maybe it will look better in the flesh ?! guess I'll wait for thr 'R' as I've been spoilt now !!! LOL G |
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Could not agree with you more Van. All complete dogs (with fleas). |
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each to their own ! but I for one, have to disagree Multistrada,sports classic`s and 999 - all new looks motto: Innovate don't imitate |
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Did I miss something. I thought there were only five leaked shots yesterday, the two photos of the end cans and the two side shots plus the one of the headlight and fairing up close. I never saw any on here yesterday that show the bike from its right hand side or from the rear in it's entireity as in MCN this morning, or were the ones they have in the issue this morning leaked late last night?? |
no not keen. biased i guess as a 999 owner, but when i saw the 999 i thought its a genuine move forward and i was happy to sell my 916 for one. dont like the 'jap' front and it does seem to a bits of this bits of that. the rear end/cans in particular look terrible. it will obviously be more powerful/quicker but for me at least that side of things is becoming less and less important. my 999 may 'only' have 147bhp but if i could use all that then i'd be in bsb anyway. |
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The nose looks like a modern take on the classic 916, twin lights with air intakes under them... The way it should look... Cant wait to see it in the flesh... Are there any Ducati dealers around anymore? (No, thanks to the 999) Oh well, I`ll have to go down to Metropolis in Vauxhall in a few weeks |
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picky picky |
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And the shoe box end can on a 999 looks nice??? Well its certainly got us all debating...:lol: |
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I agree ! but with 147bhp in BSB.......you would deffo be at the back ! LOL |
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But not arguing! Which is nice.... |
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nice ??? a matter of personal taste different & innovative ? definately ! |
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will 300bhp i'd still be at the back! |
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that made me laugh out loud................quite embarrassing in a full office !! nice one Dickie some peeps on this post are far too serious !! |
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i like the rear of the 999 alot. with the termi's and carbon heat shield i think it looks sweet. but horses for courses i guess. |
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Dont get me wrong, I`d be quite happy with a 999R Fila Rep. But the 999 just is`nt the true successor to the 916, if anything is, its the MV F4. But the 1098 is very nice and I cant wait to see one on the track in race trim... 180bhp for the road going `R` and an easy 210bhp in track trim. WOW!!!! They are saying the standard 1098 is 160bhp and it out-drags a Gixxer Thou. Cant wait to ride one!!! |
Why is there nothing on the Ducati website ???? would still be funny if it was all a scam |
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160 at the wheel or at the crank? 160 at the crank is about 140 at the wheel - ok but nothing special. 160 at the wheel means 180 at the crank, which I just don't believe from a 1100 cc twin. |
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you love numbers don't you ? LOL |
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I do (except for 999) :) |
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My 998R had 140'ish at the wheel in standard trim, surely they've moved on from there?! Ducati made a bid deal of making some large performance gains, so I'd be surprised if these weren't 'at the wheel' figures. |
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oh I'm soooooooo pleased I have a 749 then |
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I'm very happy for you. |
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and I , in turn, for you my friend must be the air in MK today ! LOL |
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MCN does not say whether it is at the crank or wheel.... |
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MCN probably doesn't know that there's a difference... |
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Damn......& I thought they were the font of all knowledge n all |
They should have put a 916/998 swing arm on it, not that MV style abortion. Apart from that it looks rather nice methinks! |
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It needs the extra bracing to reduce flex caused by 160bhp being fed to the rear wheel |
That 160 needs to be along with a 15kgs weight loss to keeps up with a jap litre 160 bhp , gives what at wheel , 140ish so needs to be 180kg wet min to really compete that is if Ducati are trying to compete on the road No mention of weight so far other than a quote somewhere saying " weight savings "cant remember where though And 12 grand !!! "Are you having a laugh " that will be my order out the window no way am i paying that Only my thoughts ;) |
Well what can I say? The bike in MCN (if indeed it is the final version, I honestly don't know) is absolutely stunning. To me this bike has addressed exactly what a huge number of customers have been asking for in spectacular style. If you ingore the styling for a few moments, the power and performance figures are absolutely fantastic. I have also been told direct from the factory that the torque and power delivery from the new engine is truly jaw-dropping. As to the styling, in my opinion, the bike pictured is a direct evolution of the iconic 916 style. The pictures in MCN are far more revealing in terms of angles and objective than anything we have been able to see so far. If you take a picture of a 916 and put it next to the 1098 (as I have done for some time this morning) you can see the obvious transition from one design to the next. I have also seen some suggestions that it is too Japanese. I can see how some may feel that considering the 999 was so unique. BUT if you cast your mind back to bikes of the mid 90s, slab sided with either round or square lights the "fox eyes" of the 916 were a very new approach and arguably some other manufacturers followed suit and developed them until what they are now. To me the 1098 is an evolution of that design. And it is VERY Ducati, those headlights are straight off of the Desmosedici - a lineage and relationship very few bikes will ever be able to hail as having. The 999 is an awesome machine, both to look at and ride but we are all aware it hasn't quite stolen the hearts of the mass buying public. The factory have obviously been aware of that and have resolved those issues. If you read back to any of the original (or even latest) criticisms of the 999, every one has been addressed in this new design, bar none. I'm really excited about this design, it's stunning from every angle. In the same breath i'm really sorry to see the 999 go as it is beautiful in its own right. I'm glad to know there are still fans of that design as it will help residuals and support that bike for many years to come. Irrespective of the gorgeous looks, the power of a 1000cc inline 4, with the torque of a twin and the handling of a Ducati - I mean what else can we wish for? Just my opinion |
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Spot on Ron!!!! |
best laugh I've had all day, Van you do realise that Terbelanche actually did most of the work on the 916 don't you? and if you read any of Ducati's history you'll see that Tamborini did take most of the credit, and how could say the Supermono is ugly... you didn't but Terberlanche did design that too or did you forget that LOL!! And if you recall Ducati started quoting dry weight and HP at the crank not the wheel from 05 onwards to be in line with the Japs |
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Laugh away...:lol: I didn`t even mention the supermono... I said the Multiturda,the whole of the sport classic range and 999 were pig ugly, while we`re at at it, lets chuck that MH900e on the Ugly pile too... |
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They'll be the lights Ducati nicked from the Honda NR750 then? Quote:
I'd wait for proven weight and power figures and a review of the handling before I'd be that bold. The critics also reckon the 999 wasn't as iconic or beautiful as the 916. The 1098 is worse on that score - it won't be as iconic as it doesn't tread new ground and I'd say it was a fair bit uglier than a 916... |
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