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Red-Duc 06-Dec-2006 17:43

Well nuts driving me nuts
 
Has anyone else had trouble with these?

Ive given up with the well nuts that hold the fairing on at the side, I had problems with them sliding out when riding, Ive had some new parts made and now there firmly fixed with allen bolts, washers, grommet with a metal spacer inside to stop cracking the panel.

UglyDuckling 07-Dec-2006 07:45

Yep, been there a few times.....and just went and bought some newer ones.
Trick is not to over tighten them....as my old engineering lecturer once told me "there's a difference between having a good cr*p and tearing your ar$e out"

antonye 07-Dec-2006 09:29

The rubber on them deteriorates quite quickly, so they will need replacing every 4-5 years, probably sooner if you use your bike in all conditions.

Speak to "mjbayley" on here if you need any as he sells them on ebay in packs for a hell of a lot cheaper than Ducati !

Iconic944ss 07-Dec-2006 10:05

Yep - they are a problem at times.

I replaced my fairing fastners with large headed stainless mushroom bolts, my local stockist also does some neat stainless washers that have a 'felt' material backing to protect painwork finished off with stainless Nyloc nuts - Job done :)

Frank

katana 07-Dec-2006 11:37

Or you can try rawl nuts. Same thing but made of soft plastic instead of rubber so last a lot longer and are better quality.

Oh and you can get supplies from decent hardwear shops or the nut and bolt place on the north circular near the ace cafe.

Iconic944ss 07-Dec-2006 12:03

Oh yes - number plate nuts and bolts can be put to other uses too :)

Cheers - Frank

moto748 11-Dec-2006 14:21

This is something I'm going to come up against as an SS owner now.

When I had an SS before, it was half-faired, so I didn't need to remove any plastic to change the oil. :rolleyes:

Now I need to do an oil change, so I suppose I'll have to take the whole RHS fairing off? Is that the way to go, or is it feasible to separate the fairing and just remove the lower?

I would have thought that at least the 4 (!) fasteners underneath could be converted to Dzus à la 748/916. Has anyone done this?

The handbook says you can remove the whole lot without undoing the bottom 4 by sliding it under the bike.
But I'd imagine this would be a two-man job, cos you'd have to be very careful that you didn't scratch the paintwork on the floor manoeuvering it around.


I'm talking about an injected bike, BTW, with the "new" shape fairing.

On a brighter note, it feels much happier with a 14t front sprocket, and the suspension is much better now Louigi hasd fettled it for me.

Monty 11-Dec-2006 16:06

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So which 'SS' do you have? I have a 1000ss project which is being fettled at the moment-going to have a very small half fairing on that which I got from Ducati Kamna in Germany-won't be a problem for me to change the oil-the picture shows the original nose part of the standard fairing, new one is only slightly larger.

John

moto748 11-Dec-2006 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monty
So which 'SS' do you have?
John



Fully faired 900SSie in yellow.

Having just bought the bike, I can't say I feel much like going to the expense of buying new fairings, especially when the existing ones are in such good condition.

Only drawback I recall with the half-faired bike was the paint lifting off the engine casings :eek: especially the LHS (nearest the gutter).

moto748 11-Dec-2006 19:50

Red-Duc> Any details available of those "parts" you had made? ;)

Drawings, sketches, photos? Pretty please?

twpd 11-Dec-2006 19:54

Never had any probs with the well-nuts in 12-13 yrs of Ducati ownership. I lube the cap screws with copper grease so that they can be screwed in/out easily not causing the nut itself to twist.

Red-Duc 11-Dec-2006 19:54

moto748 I did this on a carb bike, not sure if the ie is the same but will post something up if you want

Rob B 11-Dec-2006 19:59

What twpd said, but if your stuck for rubnuts, I have them in stock, both m6 and m5, for 50pence each plus £1 p&p

Rgds,

Rob

moto748 11-Dec-2006 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red-Duc
moto748 I did this on a carb bike, not sure if the ie is the same but will post something up if you want



Thanks. I'm sure it'll be of general interest, even if not applicable to my bike.

To be fair, I've tried most of my fairing fasteners, and they're all greased and undo quite easily, but I feel a little spoilt, coming from a 748 where it was just a few seconds to take the panels off.

moto748 14-Dec-2006 19:18

Oil change
 
Well I changed the oil on the SS today. Needed doing, too; the sludge filter didn't look like it'd ever been taken out! :rolleyes:
Just as well I had a 21mm socket!

But those well-nuts underneath are a pig. The other 5 fixings on the RHS are fine, but I reckon I'll get the ones underneath changed to Dzus fasteners ASAP. And doesn't it take some oil: nearly a can-full, 3.9 litres. Still, the more oil the better I suppose.


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