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FengShoei 29-Oct-2003 19:28

Lifting rear of bike
 
OK, so how do YOU people do it?
I'm changing the rear shock, so paddock stand wont do it. Cant find a suitable place for a trolley jack, so assume Abba type stand is the only way?
Or can i strap round the rear subframe and hang it from the rafters - will it put too much stress on the subframe?
Also (sorry!), what about when changing C & S? Looks like its another 'not with a paddock stand' job. Was gonna get a Renthal carrier to make it easy to swap sprockets, not sure now.
Any help / ideas / put me right??
Cheers,
Nick.

Yellow Bip 29-Oct-2003 19:37

Nick to change rear sprocket is the paddock stand that goes in the other side and yes that means i have 2 paddock stands for the rear.
As far as shock goes i was told that you could put a bar through the lower back of the engine and put it on axle stands not to sure about that so went out and bought a Abba stand for a £100 including fittings for the 996.

Harv748 29-Oct-2003 22:49

I'm no authority on this...but I managed to change both the chain/sprockets and the shock without any sort of excessive lifting.

To be honest it was a while ago I did the c&S so I can't remember exactly, but I'm sure the only real trouble I had was getting the 41mm nut off which was solid. Once this was off, i just leant the bike over a little (ie so it was resting against the wall (well protected)), slackened the chain right off, and removal the required items.

I did the same for the shock with a trolley jack under the gearbox. Things are a little unstable as it tends to be just at the balance point, so it thinks about lifting the front aswell, but with it leaning against the wall, with wooden blocks against the front wheel it was going nowhere. I only lifted the back wheel off the ground by mm's...just enough to allow for the bolts top and bottom to be removed.

There is a bit of a knack to it...but it was the first time I tried and it took me probably 35-40 minutes to change the shock over this way.

As i guess it comes down to how confident you are about doing stuff like this on your bike...otherwise look to borrow an abba stand...rather than buying one.

bradders 29-Oct-2003 22:53

I've got an abba stand...where are you located?
paul

Bj.O.rn 30-Oct-2003 11:43

A pair of "proper" footrests (fixed race type) and a homemade stand to lift under said footrests.. Sorted!

http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photo...mages/05_b.jpg

/B

[Edited on 30-10-2003 by Bj.O.rn]

Totto 30-Oct-2003 12:00

Quote:

Originally posted by Bj.O.rn
A pair of "proper" footrests (fixed race type) and a homemade stand to lift under said footrests.. Sorted!


Thats very similar to the way i lift my 998 , also have two tie down straps & a box section frame from the walll to lift the front clear !

nelly 30-Oct-2003 12:08

Prior to using an ABBA stand, I used a steel bar thru' the swingarm pivot and put and axle stand under each end......
12mm or 14mm bar goes straight through.
Lift the bike on the paddock stand, using some flat timber under the wheels will lift it higher if needs be, get the stands under then remove the stand.

The ABBA stand is a god send though. Worth the expense IMO.

C&S can be changed with the bike on the sidestand..........once the nut is loose. Just don't move the bike around too much/at all, and use the normal stand whenever possible. i.e. riveting the chain, tensioning the chain etc.

Guido 30-Oct-2003 12:31

I'm with Nelly.

C&S can be done with the bike on the sidestand no probs at ll.

I've hung my bike from the rafters before using ratchet tie-downs around the subframe (nearest to where it meets the trellis frame at the tank)

Chaz 30-Oct-2003 12:57

I use a ratchit strap though the frame & over a beam in my garage real easy

Chass

Ray 30-Oct-2003 13:03

Try a kids swing, £25 from Toys R Us for one strong enough to support a Ducati and a ratchet strap I've used this sort of set up once or twice now.

Ben makes use of it in between.


Ray

Bj.O.rn 30-Oct-2003 14:24

Quote:

Originally posted by Totto
Thats very similar to the way i lift my 998 , also have two tie down straps & a box section frame from the walll to lift the front clear !

I have a home made one-piece stand to go under the footpegs with eheels for onemanned operation :) . A botched up "high-stand" that goes through the frame once the airbox is out takes care of any fork- or headstock work..

Lee1980 30-Oct-2003 21:40

Guys with the Abba stand
 
I have an Abba stand but no Ducati specific fitting kit. I bought it for my vfr400 and got 2 lumps of metal that went into the holes on the pivot, then got a hornet 600 and took these out and it worked with the standard cups.

As the Ducati specific kit is £20 what do i get 2 more lumps of metal?

Could I do as Nelly suggested and get some 10mm bar and thread through swingarm and hold the bar in cups on the Abba stand?

Thanks

Lee1980 ;)

nelly 30-Oct-2003 22:27

I thought the fitting kits were £10?? Have you rung ABBA directly?
Yes, you just get two more lumps of metal. They're not a whole lot different to the standard cups you get with the stand. But they are different. The bar through the pivot might work though.
I can give you some dimensions if you can get them made??

Lee1980 31-Oct-2003 12:55

Nelly,

The £20 is from M&P where I got the stand from. Ducati ones are the dearest most others are £12.

The lumps i have already just arn't long enough to reach inside the frame. I don't have access to a lathe at the moment or I could easily make them up.

I will try Abba direct, anyone got the number by any chance?

Also try the bar through as well.

Thanks

Lee1980 ;)

nelly 31-Oct-2003 13:02

Lee, ABBA number is 01621 854489

Lee1980 31-Oct-2003 13:22

Cheers Nelly
 
I'll give them a call tonight.

Thanks

Lee1980 ;)

dickieducati 31-Oct-2003 13:35

i've got the fittings for the 916/996/998 etc if anyone wants to borrow them.

FengShoei 05-Nov-2003 11:16

Thanks for all the replies, not been able to log on for a while due to working all the hours God sends.

In the end, i bought an Abba on the advice of a mate at work. Seems like he was right going on the above. I did like the axle stand / footrest option though!!

Bradders, thanks for the offer m8 - wish i'd seen it before splashing my cash, but i spose having one in the garage for any occassion is better. Im in Horton Heath BTW, near Eastleigh.

Now just got to get the right fitment off Abba. May wait for NEC and see if i can blag 'em cheap......

bradders 05-Nov-2003 13:42

Quote:

Originally posted by FengShoei
Thanks for all the replies, not been able to log on for a while due to working all the hours God sends.

In the end, i bought an Abba on the advice of a mate at work. Seems like he was right going on the above. I did like the axle stand / footrest option though!!

Bradders, thanks for the offer m8 - wish i'd seen it before splashing my cash, but i spose having one in the garage for any occassion is better. Im in Horton Heath BTW, near Eastleigh.

Now just got to get the right fitment off Abba. May wait for NEC and see if i can blag 'em cheap......

Are you going to Popham Sunday then?
Paul

FengShoei 05-Nov-2003 15:14

I saw the post on Rideouts this morning and would have gone, but i'll be working Sunday.
It's a right pain in the arse, but i work shifts and most of my weekends are affected. But i will try and make the next one, aswell as a few trackdays next year - got the taste for those now having done me first this year.


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