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skidlids 24-Mar-2004 08:18

New look 999 in MCN
 
Now that looks better, should help sell a few more.

everton 24-Mar-2004 08:32

Nah.......ruined it mate.

Funny thing is, and don't asked me why, the closed in headlight thing reminded me of the Jaguar E Type..............showing my age I know.

The original car had closed in headlights and then opened them in the revamped model.

Looks like Ducati think its better the other way round. What did make me laugh is that Pierre apparently didn' know anything about the mods :lol::lol:

See you Saturday mate - weather's looking better

Scottch 24-Mar-2004 08:40

It's not a bad evolution in my opinion.

But a bit 2004 GSXR lookalikey I think.

Cheers!

Scott

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by Scottch]

Jools 24-Mar-2004 09:31

Ohhhh Mr Terblanche...if only you'd listened to Jools in the first place.

I happen to like the 999, always have. However, when it was launched and all the controversy kicked off on this site and elsewhere about it's looks, I put several posts up to say it would look even better if they faired in the lights under a single perspex cover and lost the upper air vents. The posts will be in the archive somewhere.

I still think the perspex light cover should pick up the v-shape coming down from the screen and echo that shape, but NOW that would make it look like it's ripped off the 2004 Gixer look. If they'd have done it THEN the Gixer would've been the copycat. Must admit I didn't think the side vanes needed changing...I like them.

OK so that's the front end tidied up. I still think that the rear end could be tidied up a lot more if they faired in the two subframe tubes under the seat. The seat panels themselves are OK, but extending them forward and down to cover those two tubes (perhaps by working on a much updated version of the 851/888 seat) - Actually, the bike that does this best is the Mondial Piega...Phwoar have a look at the rear end on that...as sexy as Kylie's.....Nearly

Athelstan 24-Mar-2004 10:19

PIXS ANYONE
 
Do not get MCN here in Switzerland so can anyone post ome pixs so that I can see what you chaps are on about - many thanks

Rattler 24-Mar-2004 10:20

Any pics?
 

Dibble 24-Mar-2004 10:23

buy MCN you tight git Rattler ...

and now all they need is a nice single sided swingarm and we might be getting somewhere ...

I think the light just looks blobby ....

wont do residual values for the MK1 999's any good though ....!!!

robracenut 24-Mar-2004 10:33

Don't believe everything you read. Especially from MCN. Heh.

Rob

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by robracenut]

nathanhu 24-Mar-2004 10:39

would someone be able to post a pic as were not all in the Uk at the moment....thanks;)

LesPaul 24-Mar-2004 11:28

Sorry, no scanner so can't put up pic's :(
Maybe MCN will put them up on their site when it's back up and running.
Like the lack of side vanes as MCN put it, very much like the side panels on the 2002 99* series which I think is a good thing. Not sure on the headlights, probably look better in the flesh than the pictures just like the MK1 :D

Darren

Chris 999S 24-Mar-2004 11:39

999 Make over
 
Well has certainly tidied up the front end and removed some of those "black" plastic bits (unless you already have a carbon fairing)
The perspex light cover.....still prefer the look without the cover, but at least it will stop the 100's of pesky flies from splattering themselves over the light units & inside the fairing

Nathanhu.....i am interested in your source of DP footrest kit for the 999, but my German is not too good ?.

Cheers

Chris

robracenut 24-Mar-2004 11:41

Actually, they're all fairly small changes really, despite MCN's blustering about it. The shape and contours of the bike are identical to the current model. If the headlight assembly and mounting points are the same, you could just stick a new nose cowl and left and right panels on, and you'd have all the changes.

Rob

everton 24-Mar-2004 12:05

OK..............here we go children

Personally (and seriously Skidlids) I like...........

Head lamp covering
Sealing the upper air vents

I don't like.............

Widening the fairing...........works for me (and my new slimmer shape :D )
Losing the side vanes.........only from a cosmetic viewpoint

JH 24-Mar-2004 12:07

Looks good. Hope new fairing will retrofit current 999.

JH

everton 24-Mar-2004 12:07

Bit more detail.............and take note of robracenut's comments

Quote:

Actually, they're all fairly small changes really, despite MCN's blustering about it. The shape and contours of the bike are identical to the current model. If the headlight assembly and mounting points are the same, you could just stick a new nose cowl and left and right panels on, and you'd have all the changes.


I think he's right

robracenut 24-Mar-2004 12:51

Nice 1 posting the scans everton.

Bear in mind this is almost certainly an MCN photoshop job and not even the actual article. There are no mounting points visible for the new nose cowl -- how's it supposed to stay on? Also, there's no join in the fairing panels on the cover pic and it looks weird where the wind deflectors should be. The fuel tank also seems to have different contours.

Also, the bike on the cover is different to the one inside the paper. It has a Casoli or Ferracci sticker on the swingarm chainguard, and a US-style number plate, whereas the bike inside has no chainguard and no chain adjustment sticker.

Think we need some caution before judging any *alleged* changes on the basis of a (sloppy) MCN simulation.

Rob

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by robracenut]

skidlids 24-Mar-2004 13:00

Quote:

]I like...........

Head lamp covering
Sealing the upper air vents

I don't like.............

Widening the fairing...........works for me (and my new slimmer shape :D )
Losing the side vanes.........only from a cosmetic viewpoint

Dave I'm with you on headlamp cover and the upper vents, but I also like the idea of a slightly wider fairing and the loss of the side vains but would like to see some sculptured cut outs in the side fairing as it is looking a bit bland an the mock up pics.

robracenut 24-Mar-2004 13:04

And now on MCN's site, they claim Ducati are denying it.

April Fool anybody?

Hahaha!!

Rob

everton 24-Mar-2004 13:08

MCN......................

Made up and Cobbled together Nonsense

:lol::lol::lol:

Jools 24-Mar-2004 13:44

MCN Nonsense?????

Er, yes!

According to MCN 'all the changes been done at the request of the race team' for aerodynamic reasons? Why have the lights been altered then? Does the racebike need more aerodynamic lights?

I think not

Totto 24-Mar-2004 13:59

Could all be just a big smoke screen to judge Joe puplic's reaction !

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by Totto]

nathanhu 24-Mar-2004 14:12

everton thanks for putting up the pics,( some of us life far from home..):ninja:
i do like the fack that they are thinking of dumping the air vents in the front .
dosnt this look like the Febur fairing though
http://www.febur.it/catalogo/part_carbonio/37.html
http://www.febur.it/recensioni/13.html

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by nathanhu]

Nattyboy 24-Mar-2004 14:16

(M)ore (C)rap (N)ews.

Nothing wrong with the front..its the arse they want to sort out (im with jools on hiding those two subframe spars).

tis funny coz everyone I know dont like the front and are OK with the back...

Its like somebody else said,its probably a load of old tosh anyway. Obviously a slow news week and you can only fill so many pages with that 'save our biking' b****s

Nat

Steve M 24-Mar-2004 14:20

999 PIC


Jools 24-Mar-2004 16:43

Quote:

Originally posted by nathanhu
dosnt this look like the Febur fairing though
http://www.febur.it/catalogo/part_carbonio/37.html
http://www.febur.it/recensioni/13.html

[Edited on 24-3-2004 by nathanhu]

Wow...hadn't seen the febur fairing until now...It's virtually identical

psychlist 24-Mar-2004 16:59

Always thought they'd made the original 999 look almost Japanese in style. This looks even more so!
Still like the look of the original, dont like those "proposed" changes at all!

KeefyB 24-Mar-2004 17:16

Yeah,its a 'pooter generated mock up,but I think it looks great.Where do I sign?;)
There has been some speculation in the press for a while of a revamp.T.W.O mag run a story of Ducati experimenting with differant headlights a month or two ago.All denied by the factory of course.
I guess all the stories about the 999 racers being slightly unstable are true.I know my 999 was badly affected by the windy conditions this weekend.Red Seb said his 749 was the same.Maybe the air deflectors were to blame?

Dibble 24-Mar-2004 17:20

eat less Chilly KeefyB. That helps on the wind front ....

KeefyB 24-Mar-2004 17:34

Have you been talking to my wife?:lol::lol::lol:

kwikbitch 24-Mar-2004 19:44

Not particularly RADICAL is it???
I thought Ducati's design team were fore runners...
Still think it looks dated in the fact that it is "trying" to be japanese....Slap a few stickers on it and "hey Presto".
Mmmm??? Not sure? ...It's "nice" I 'spose!

KeefyB 25-Mar-2004 06:59

Quote:

Originally posted by kwikbitch
Not particularly RADICAL is it???
I thought Ducati's design team were fore runners...
Still think it looks dated in the fact that it is "trying" to be japanese....Slap a few stickers on it and "hey Presto".
Mmmm??? Not sure? ...It's "nice" I 'spose!

Sorry Lisa,I dont agree with you.
Multistrada apart,when did Ducati ever make something radical?
The 916 series was an unashamed copy of the Honda NR750.

dave w 26-Mar-2004 00:12

CASOLI CONVERSION !!!!
 
Casoli are doing a complete conversion .... in carbon unpainted £1100 OUCH!!!! not including the VAT...... Oh and posting......Not for me.... Think it looks pants !!!:cool:

nathanhu 26-Mar-2004 00:25

i think casoli are an importer for Febur , the single swinger for the 999 is also from Febur in Italy i think...

Flanners 26-Mar-2004 08:32

Revamp
 
I have not read all the threads in this topic, so this may of been stated. I heard from an emplyee of Ducati design team last year that they were working on a revamp as the 999 had been such a 'flop' compared to the iconic 916 range. I was wondering what they would come up with. Still it will make a 03/04 999s a more realistic price for me to snap up. I hope.

Totto 26-Mar-2004 09:15

Did some one mention single side !
http://69.20.90.31/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=3
Hardly needs a revamp when it looks like that !:o

niggs999 26-Mar-2004 19:53

new 999
 
its an italian gixer, lucky i,ve got both:D i think the new style looks pants. i bet that pierre terry thomas bloke will hav a baby:lol::lol:

dismay 29-Mar-2004 20:35

On the recent DSC trip to Bologna I was told by one of the design team that the plastic WAS changing in 2005. He also checked for me to see if the top part of the R fairing could be made to fit Bip and it doesnt. But I could fit the whole thing, but I decided that £2500 would not be well spent.


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